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(01-13-2019, 07:55 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-13-2019, 07:02 PM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]There are numerous reports on Malik Jackson that he was outright benched this season for Abry Jones; he didn't just lose snaps in the rotation for the young players.  And the defense did improve after Jackson was benched if that says anything.

His salary for a DT is top 7 in the NFL.  He's not making much less than JJ Watt and I doubt anyone on here would argue that Malik Jackson is anywhere near the caliber player that JJ Watt is.  Sure, it would be great if there was a trade market for Malik Jackson, but what team is going to give up precious draft picks for a DT scheduled to make $15M next year?

The reality is the 2019 NFL Draft is absolutely loaded with D-linemen this year, so why would any team looking for D-line help  not spend a mid-round pick on a cheap rookie contract rather than overpay for someone like Jackson?

You think nobody would give up a 7th a rounder for a pass rusher like Malik? 

You highly overestimate how many 7th rounders hit or even contribute positively to the team that drafted them.  Malik can be easily cut at any time and would be in favour of renegotiation for sure

Correct, he's not worth a 7th rounder because of his contract.  He's not a $15M a year player.  

It might be different if he was going to get $5M a year and a team wanted to avoid a bidding war, but the bottom line is he's not worth the money of his existing contract.  He's not a top 7 DT and doesn't deserve top 7 money.  

The Jags will cut him and give him the post June 1 designation.  Same as Bortles.  Spread the dead money hits over over 2019 and 2020.  

All fans overestimate the value of the players on their teams.  It's natural.  You hear the rumors every year about teams trying to trade players for picks, but it's not that common. Heck, you read people posting the same thing about Bortles.  Former #3 overall pick.  5 years of starting experience.  Multiple playoff wins.  But Bortles isn't going to get traded, he's going to get cut.  Only real question is whether or not he gets cut pre or post June 1.

(01-13-2019, 11:11 PM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-13-2019, 07:55 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]You think nobody would give up a 7th a rounder for a pass rusher like Malik? 

You highly overestimate how many 7th rounders hit or even contribute positively to the team that drafted them.  Malik can be easily cut at any time and would be in favour of renegotiation for sure

Correct, he's not worth a 7th rounder because of his contract.  He's not a $15M a year player.  

It might be different if he was going to get $5M a year and a team wanted to avoid a bidding war, but the bottom line is he's not worth the money of his existing contract.  He's not a top 7 DT and doesn't deserve top 7 money.  

The Jags will cut him and give him the post June 1 designation.  Same as Bortles.  Spread the dead money hits over over 2019 and 2020.  

All fans overestimate the value of the players on their teams.  It's natural.  You hear the rumors every year about teams trying to trade players for picks, but it's not that common. Heck, you read people posting the same thing about Bortles.  Former #3 overall pick.  5 years of starting experience.  Multiple playoff wins.  But Bortles isn't going to get traded, he's going to get cut.  Only real question is whether or not he gets cut pre or post June 1.

Anyone trading for him will be trading with the intention of renegotiating or cutting after a year. They aren't trading for him expecting him to be a top 5 tackle. 

Bortles deal is not comparable to Maliks deal and its pretty ignorant to suggest so for multiple reasons.   

Also haven't seen anyone posting that Bortles would have a big trade market, more so, that he will be able to find a backup job pretty easily based on his resume, which is correct