(01-21-2019, 12:42 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2019, 12:34 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ]Oh boo hoo. Without London Jacksonville wouldn't have a team for you people to complain about.
LOL
What are you so salty about?
I'm just tired of a fanbase that can't sell out a game (despite having some of the cheapest tickets in the league) criticizing fans that probably spend more money on their teams in a single year than most of them do in a whole decade. And complaining about crowd noise? Give me a break. Here's a little insight from someone who's actually been to a fair few London games; the vast majority of people in the stadium aren't fans of either team, they have spent literally hundreds of dollars going to a game their team isn't playing in. The reason they don't make noise when you want them to is not because they don't know, it's because they're there to watch football.
(01-21-2019, 01:21 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2019, 01:10 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Bit of an underwhelming game to send over. Yes its a division game so should be competitive and im sure the NFL wants to send Watt to England but can't see many neutrals flocking to that one.
The teams playing doesn't matter. The tickets always sell out because an entire weekend in London can be done for less than the cost of a return flight to the States.
I look forward to seeing all of the Dick Butkus' jerseys in the crowd.
Awww, that sucks. I could always count on extra elbow room at the stadium for Texans games.
In a way, it's probably the perfect game from a team income standpoint - Texans at the Jags seems to be the worst draw of the season every year. They still announce the 60k+ tickets distributed, but they gotta have between 10-20k no-shows that aren't buying concessions just about every time.
(01-21-2019, 01:30 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2019, 12:42 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]LOL
What are you so salty about?
I'm just tired of a fanbase that can't sell out a game (despite having some of the cheapest tickets in the league) criticizing fans that probably spend more money on their teams in a single year than most of them do in a whole decade. And complaining about crowd noise? Give me a break. Here's a little insight from someone who's actually been to a fair few London games; the vast majority of people in the stadium aren't fans of either team, they have spent literally hundreds of dollars going to a game their team isn't playing in. The reason they don't make noise when you want them to is not because they don't know, it's because they're there to watch football.
Super Euro Protector to the rescue.
Sounds like people that go to that game are pathetic and sad.
(01-21-2019, 01:21 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2019, 01:10 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Bit of an underwhelming game to send over. Yes its a division game so should be competitive and im sure the NFL wants to send Watt to England but can't see many neutrals flocking to that one.
The teams playing doesn't matter. The tickets always sell out because an entire weekend in London can be done for less than the cost of a return flight to the States.
Exactly this. Those aren't Jaguar crowds per se. There's a pretty even mix of fans of all 32 NFL teams. It's not about the Jaguars, it's about the NFL in general. (Except I guess for the guys wearing Arsenal jerseys).
Two questions that comes to mind that I don't recall being discussed are whether the Jaguars offer input to the NFL which home game they prefer to be in London in a given season, And if yes, to what extent does the NFL base the Jaguars input into their scheduling decision?
(01-21-2019, 05:34 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ]Two questions that comes to mind that I don't recall being discussed are whether the Jaguars offer input to the NFL which home game they prefer to be in London in a given season, And if yes, to what extent does the NFL base the Jaguars input into their scheduling decision?
I think they generally schedule the London game in October to work around the Florida-Georgia game.
(01-21-2019, 05:34 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ]Two questions that comes to mind that I don't recall being discussed are whether the Jaguars offer input to the NFL which home game they prefer to be in London in a given season, And if yes, to what extent does the NFL base the Jaguars input into their scheduling decision?
Having trouble finding the link to source it, but I remember this was as discussion back when the 49ers or Cowboys games was moved to London, and everyone was angry because those teams only come to Jacksonville once every 8 years.
Khan told reporters that they are normally given the option of 1 or 2 games to be put in London by the NFL, and Khan would let the NFL know if Jags wanted to "protect one" and leave in Jacksonville.
Also, I know everyone makes a big deal about Jaguars' support in London. But honestly, fans support teams that are playing well. This past year was a great opportunity to build on the playoff run and have a good team build up some support in London, but they fell off a cliff after the 3-1 start.
And if they had sent the Chiefs or Saints game to London.... then what? People would clearly complain about that.
The attendance in Jax was actually very good this year.
(01-22-2019, 12:22 PM)JagFanFirst Wrote: [ -> ]The attendance in Jax was actually very good this year.
Nooooo. Not at all.
Maybe “tickets distributed” was good, but actual attendance was pretty sparse. I did see other stadiums that were the same way, but that doesn’t change the facts here in Jacksonville.
(01-22-2019, 12:22 PM)JagFanFirst Wrote: [ -> ]The attendance in Jax was actually very good this year.
Up to around the midway point it was pretty good. After that, the attendance was pretty sparse. I couldn't give tickets away and they are pretty decent seats.
The impression i get from the London fans is they're NFL fans in general.
and kind of like wrestling..(did i say that?)..
they pick a good guy/bad guy and cheer or boo accordingly.
Yes there are a few jerseys worn by fans for the teams playing
but mostly its a big mix of all teams.
(01-22-2019, 12:50 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2019, 12:22 PM)JagFanFirst Wrote: [ -> ]The attendance in Jax was actually very good this year.
Nooooo. Not at all.
Maybe “tickets distributed” was good, but actual attendance was pretty sparse. I did see other stadiums that were the same way, but that doesn’t change the facts here in Jacksonville.
When you were watching on TV you must have only noticed during halftime or prior to kickoff.
One of the huge issues with Jacksonville is a lot of fans are hiding in the Bud Zone, the pool area and indoors in the club area, where I've seen people grab a table and literally camp inside the whole game.
(01-24-2019, 03:05 PM)Inziladun Wrote: [ -> ]One of the huge issues with Jacksonville is a lot of fans are hiding in the Bud Zone, the pool area and indoors in the club area, where I've seen people grab a table and literally camp inside the whole game.
I don't think a dome would fix this behavior either. Then again you put out for the ticket then well you enjoy as you like.
I’m a little disappointed it’s the Texans, but in recent years the record at Wembley has been pretty good and that included a win over division rivals once.
What surprised me more was that I was expecting them to try playing two Jaguars games in London this year - with them playing as the away team in the other game.
And still four games - if they’re building up to creating a franchise in London, they’re doing it slowly!
(01-21-2019, 12:42 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2019, 12:34 PM)MDragonFury Wrote: [ -> ]Oh boo hoo. Without London Jacksonville wouldn't have a team for you people to complain about.
LOL
What are you so salty about?
I agree with Marty’s take.
It’s good for the franchise’s bottom line to have the non division games in Jax -opposed to sending one to London.
They do tend to sell more tix to Jags fans and draw more traveling fans compared to division games.
I guess, but I like how we tend to win in London when we're not racking up bar bills in the tens of thousands before the game. Beating the Texans in London would be sweet.
(01-21-2019, 12:34 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2019, 12:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Agree on both accounts
Oh boo hoo. Without London Jacksonville wouldn't have a team for you people to complain about.
That's ludicrous. You take the state of the Jaguars bs way too seriously. The nfl is a shared revenue league(cba), the ticket sales from 1 game isn't nearly as significant as it's made out to be in the grand scheme of things. Most of the money teams make is off of the TV deals anyway, anything else is just icing on the massive nfl cake. Even crap like merch sales is divided up amongst all 32 teams, get over the idea that Jacksonville needs London, because it absolutely doesn't.
(01-31-2019, 08:52 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2019, 12:34 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ]Oh boo hoo. Without London Jacksonville wouldn't have a team for you people to complain about.
That's ludicrous. You take the state of the Jaguars bs way too seriously. The nfl is a shared revenue league(cba), the ticket sales from 1 game isn't nearly as significant as it's made out to be in the grand scheme of things. Most of the money teams make is off of the TV deals anyway, anything else is just icing on the massive nfl cake. Even crap like merch sales is divided up amongst all 32 teams, get over the idea that Jacksonville needs London, because it absolutely doesn't.
It used to be that way. Then Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder came along and began to market their teams independently. So while the NFL still shares revenue, corporate sponsorships by individual teams has allowed some teams to take in a significantly greater amount of revenue than teams from cities with smaller corporate footprints.
It's also why I believe that many of the smaller market teams will eventually follow Shad's lead and semi-permanently outsource a home game in order to survive in their current towns. Doesn't mean Shad will move the team, if anything his foresight helps insure the Jags will stay where they are.