The O-man mentioned in his latest draft tracker that Cody Ford's name has been popping up a few places at #7. Checking him out, he appears to be the perfect RT to start opposite Cam. Now I'm starting to think Grier at #7, but in the event we don't use that pick for a QB and instead trade up to late round one to pick a QB, then I'm liking Ford at least as an option from what few things I've read already. Does anyone else already have this prospect in your sights?
Note that Alabama's Jonah Williams is also potentially available at the spot, however, I really don't feel we'd want to move Cam from his natural position which you'd have to do for Jonah who is only going to play LT. Similarly, Greg Little has primarily played LT, although he certainly has the size to play RT and maybe can switch over.
(01-24-2019, 12:48 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]The O-man mentioned in his latest draft tracker that Cody Ford's name has been popping up a few places at #7. Checking him out, he appears to be the perfect RT to start opposite Cam. Now I'm starting to think Grier at #7, but in the event we don't use that pick for a QB and instead trade up to late round one to pick a QB, then I'm liking Ford at least as an option from what few things I've read already. Does anyone else already have this prospect in your sights?
Note that Alabama's Jonah Williams is also potentially available at the spot, however, I really don't feel we'd want to move Cam from his natural position which you'd have to do for Jonah who is only going to play LT. Similarly, Greg Little has primarily played LT, although he certainly has the size to play RT and maybe can switch over.
I like him at RT if he can get his hands better. The dude is straight nasty in run game! Put Lindstom next to him and the right side would be a strength instead of weakness. Not sure how we'd be able to draft both but one could dream.
(01-24-2019, 01:19 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2019, 12:48 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]The O-man mentioned in his latest draft tracker that Cody Ford's name has been popping up a few places at #7. Checking him out, he appears to be the perfect RT to start opposite Cam. Now I'm starting to think Grier at #7, but in the event we don't use that pick for a QB and instead trade up to late round one to pick a QB, then I'm liking Ford at least as an option from what few things I've read already. Does anyone else already have this prospect in your sights?
Note that Alabama's Jonah Williams is also potentially available at the spot, however, I really don't feel we'd want to move Cam from his natural position which you'd have to do for Jonah who is only going to play LT. Similarly, Greg Little has primarily played LT, although he certainly has the size to play RT and maybe can switch over.
I like him at RT if he can get his hands better. The dude is straight nasty in run game! Put Lindstom next to him and the right side would be a strength instead of weakness. Not sure how we'd be able to draft both but one could dream.
I'm all for it. Any chance we can go...
1a. Ford
1b (trade up with late 3rd) - Grier, Lock, Murray or Jones
3. Lindstrom
We could then focus FA on TE Jared Cook and maybe a WR like John Brown or Golden Tate.
I'm picturing...
LT Cam Robinson
LG Andrew Norwell
C Brandon Linder
RG Chris Lindstrom
RT Cody Ford
With AJ Cann, Shatley, Wells, and Will Richardson for depth.
This is the kind of OL that Fournette requires. Keep him healthy and actually feed him like the Rams and Cowboys feed their RBs, and this should work. Fournette requires steady reps along with good run blocking to open holes for him, but once he gets rolling downfield it's game on.
If we drafted Cody, I think he'd be perfect at RG. He has experience at OG and RT. IMO, he is the best interior O-Linemen in this draft. Personally, I believe if you draft an interior O-Linemen or even RT in the top 10 overall, he'd better be pretty special. While I LOVE Ford, would I take him in the top 10? I'm on the fence about that. With that said, I don't believe we'd take a RT two years in a row. If we selected Ford, intending on him to play RT, we still have a huge need at RG and swing tackle, as last year's RT selection, Will Richardson has no experience playing LT either. Do we really want to waste a roster spot on another OT who can only play the right side? If we draft Ford to play RG, that makes way more sense to me. The kid is squatty with a "buttle butt" who shows great strength, footwork and excellent balance. I could see him being an All-Pro OG within 4 years or less, solidifying that RG position for us. I guess the more I think about it, the more he does make sense at #7, but only if he fills that RG position.
(01-24-2019, 03:14 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]If we drafted Cody, I think he'd be perfect at RG. He has experience at OG and RT. IMO, he is the best interior O-Linemen in this draft. Personally, I believe if you draft an interior O-Linemen or even RT in the top 10 overall, he'd better be pretty special. While I LOVE Ford, would I take him in the top 10? I'm on the fence about that. With that said, I don't believe we'd take a RT two years in a row. If we selected Ford, intending on him to play RT, we still have a huge need at RG and swing tackle, as last year's RT selection, Will Richardson has no experience playing LT either. Do we really want to waste a roster spot on another OT who can only play the right side? If we draft Ford to play RG, that makes way more sense to me. The kid is squatty with a "buttle butt" who shows great strength, footwork and excellent balance. I could see him being an All-Pro OG within 4 years or less, solidifying that RG position for us. I guess the more I think about it, the more he does make sense at #7, but only if he fills that RG position.
I'm sure he'd be a great RG too, but from everything I'm reading, he has the agility to play RT as well. Perhaps he could start out at RG and then scoot outside whenever Parnell is finally ready to call it quits.
As for Will Richardson, I see him more as a backup needing several years to develop before he's ready to start.
Really wish Isaiah Wynn had fallen to the Jags last year. I know he got injured but man he would be awesome to have.
Then again, we could get Cody to play RG and then get Ja'Wuan James in FA to take over at RT.
(01-24-2019, 02:48 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2019, 01:19 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]I like him at RT if he can get his hands better. The dude is straight nasty in run game! Put Lindstom next to him and the right side would be a strength instead of weakness. Not sure how we'd be able to draft both but one could dream.
Lindstrom is definitely one of the safest picks in this draft. He and Hockenson would be great additions. Since I expect Foles to be a Jaguar, there is no need to trade up for Haskins and no other q.b. is worth the risk in round 1. Therefore, the best case scenerio for me would be similiar to what Hays Carlyon came up with in his article this week. My version would be:
Rd.1 - Trade back to mid-1st and take Hockenson
Rd. 2- Take Lindstrom here. May be a little early, but he's a plug and play guy who fits the Coughlin mold.
Rd. 3- With the trade in round 1, they now have 3 picks in this round. Take the best offensive tackle, wide receiver and quarterback in this round or use one of these picks to move up
and take an additional 2nd rounder. Possible guys to target include wide receivers Deebo Samuels and Hakeem Butler at receiver and Will Grier at quarterback. It wouldn't shock me if
falls to round 3 based on what is coming out of Mobile.
I'm all for it. Any chance we can go...
1a. Ford
1b (trade up with late 3rd) - Grier, Lock, Murray or Jones
3. Lindstrom
We could then focus FA on TE Jared Cook and maybe a WR like John Brown or Golden Tate.
I'm picturing...
LT Cam Robinson
LG Andrew Norwell
C Brandon Linder
RG Chris Lindstrom
RT Cody Ford
With AJ Cann, Shatley, Wells, and Will Richardson for depth.
This is the kind of OL that Fournette requires. Keep him healthy and actually feed him like the Rams and Cowboys feed their RBs, and this should work. Fournette requires steady reps along with good run blocking to open holes for him, but once he gets rolling downfield it's game on.
(01-24-2019, 02:48 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2019, 01:19 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]I like him at RT if he can get his hands better. The dude is straight nasty in run game! Put Lindstom next to him and the right side would be a strength instead of weakness. Not sure how we'd be able to draft both but one could dream.
I'm all for it. Any chance we can go...
1a. Ford
1b (trade up with late 3rd) - Grier, Lock, Murray or Jones
3. Lindstrom
We could then focus FA on TE Jared Cook and maybe a WR like John Brown or Golden Tate.
I'm picturing...
LT Cam Robinson
LG Andrew Norwell
C Brandon Linder
RG Chris Lindstrom
RT Cody Ford
With AJ Cann, Shatley, Wells, and Will Richardson for depth.
This is the kind of OL that Fournette requires. Keep him healthy and actually feed him like the Rams and Cowboys feed their RBs, and this should work. Fournette requires steady reps along with good run blocking to open holes for him, but once he gets rolling downfield it's game on.
That OL... I just...damn! That would take some draft maneuvering but it would be formidable. The potential to be one of the better lines the Jags have ever had. Dare I say, may even cover for weaker talent at the QB position and make the WR & TE group we have look competent. And like you said, may get Fournette straight. We have what Rounds 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 to work with?
Ford would have an even bigger problem with speed rushers than Parnell does IMO. He would be dominant at RG tho.
(01-24-2019, 03:33 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]Then again, we could get Cody to play RG and then get Ja'Wuan James in FA to take over at RT.
I don't hate this idea but that's a lot of money and draft capital devoted to the Oline so it better be elite.
(01-24-2019, 04:23 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Ford would have an even bigger problem with speed rushers than Parnell does IMO. He would be dominant at RG tho.
Yeah - I could see him having similar issues. If he doesn’t get hands on the faster guys right away they can beat him on the outside.
I think he can be a good RT though. That issue will be a big coaching point for him for sure though.
(01-24-2019, 03:25 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2019, 03:14 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]If we drafted Cody, I think he'd be perfect at RG. He has experience at OG and RT. IMO, he is the best interior O-Linemen in this draft. Personally, I believe if you draft an interior O-Linemen or even RT in the top 10 overall, he'd better be pretty special. While I LOVE Ford, would I take him in the top 10? I'm on the fence about that. With that said, I don't believe we'd take a RT two years in a row. If we selected Ford, intending on him to play RT, we still have a huge need at RG and swing tackle, as last year's RT selection, Will Richardson has no experience playing LT either. Do we really want to waste a roster spot on another OT who can only play the right side? If we draft Ford to play RG, that makes way more sense to me. The kid is squatty with a "buttle butt" who shows great strength, footwork and excellent balance. I could see him being an All-Pro OG within 4 years or less, solidifying that RG position for us. I guess the more I think about it, the more he does make sense at #7, but only if he fills that RG position.
I'm sure he'd be a great RG too, but from everything I'm reading, he has the agility to play RT as well. Perhaps he could start out at RG and then scoot outside whenever Parnell is finally ready to call it quits.
As for Will Richardson, I see him more as a backup needing several years to develop before he's ready to start.
I would be all for this idea. As far as Richardson, he just seems like a waste of a roster spot then. I've always been of the mind to have a very good swing Tackle, waiting in the wings rather than having a backup LT and a backup RT. Personally, I'd have a solid swing tackle as the top backup in case one of my starting OT's get hurt and both of my OG's would also have experience at the OT positions as well, to give us flexibility.
I have a feeling if we draft Ford and insert him at RG immediately, we'll never move him, because he will be so good. He has the perfect skill set and body type of what I like in an OG. Balance and power are his thing and he is an absolute road grader when it comes to opening running lanes. The more I think about drafting him at #7 the more i like it, (but only if Haskins is gone.)