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Would you do it? Would you play the role of the good Samaritan in this instance and shoot the robber? I doubt I would if it appeared he was only looking to get the money and run. Taking someone's life over a few dollars is a tough call, even if the law is on your side.
(01-30-2019, 06:02 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]https://wgxa.tv/news/local/police-custom...llar-store
Would you do it? Would you play the role of the good Samaritan in this instance and shoot the robber? I doubt I would if it appeared he was only looking to get the money and run. Taking someone's life over a few dollars is a tough call, even if the law is on your side.
I would do it only because he was armed and the fact that there are cases where the robber shoots the innocent clerk even if he/she complies. It would be just one more scum eliminated from society. The possibility of having to take a human life is something that I had to consider when getting my concealed carry permit.
The minute you use a gun on someone, getting shot in return is always a possibility.
I'm not risking my life for a bank
+ I'll probably never own a gun
Armed robbery. Case closed.
(01-30-2019, 06:02 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]https://wgxa.tv/news/local/police-custom...llar-store
Would you do it? Would you play the role of the good Samaritan in this instance and shoot the robber? I doubt I would if it appeared he was only looking to get the money and run. Taking someone's life over a few dollars is a tough call, even if the law is on your side.
I think it would depend on how he was acting. If he was waving the gun but keeping it pointed down, I'm not shooting because he doesn't intend to use it, and it's not worth taking a life over a few bucks when the store is covered in cameras and witnesses.
If he was pointing the gun at the clerk or waving it in their face, I'd shoot. That body language would lead me to believe that this is a person with intent to harm others, and won't necessarily leave it at taking the cash and running away.
He actually put the gun in the clerk's face.
I'm OK with shooting him. Besides, they never just rob one place, so he's going to do it again and he's bringing that gun with him each time. Who knows when he decides to shoot someone.
(01-30-2019, 06:18 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ] (01-30-2019, 06:02 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]https://wgxa.tv/news/local/police-custom...llar-store
Would you do it? Would you play the role of the good Samaritan in this instance and shoot the robber? I doubt I would if it appeared he was only looking to get the money and run. Taking someone's life over a few dollars is a tough call, even if the law is on your side.
I would do it only because he was armed and the fact that there are cases where the robber shoots the innocent clerk even if he/she complies. It would be just one more scum eliminated from society. The possibility of having to take a human life is something that I had to consider when getting my concealed carry permit.
I see it as much self-preservation as a good Samaritan situation. I think is reasonable to assume that an armed robber, even after getting the cash (which may be less than anticipated), might turn his attention to the customers demanding wallets, purses, etc. There's NEVER a guarantee that he'll just grab the register money and run. There's NEVER a guarantee that the clerk will be the only victim. So yes, if I have a chance to put him down before he shoots anyone, I'm going to do it.
(01-30-2019, 06:49 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]The minute you use a gun on someone, getting shot in return is always a possibility.
Yeah, that's essentially what happened here. Criminal pulled a gun, someone else shot him.
(01-30-2019, 09:36 PM)Jagsfan4life9/28/82 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-30-2019, 06:49 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]The minute you use a gun on someone, getting shot in return is always a possibility.
Yeah, that's essentially what happened here. Criminal pulled a gun, someone else shot him.
Score one for the good guys!
Yes, if the robber clearly had a gun then yes, they deserve the ramifications of their unlawful action that threatened other lives.
I'm a huge 2nd amendment guy, I have no problem with someone defending themselves or others in public. However personally I do not every day carry for that reason. I have no intention of being the hero or fantasy's of using any of my firearms on public defense. I'm not an officer and I'm not a soilder. heck I'm not really that good of a shot I'd feel comfortable enough to use it under pressure like that and hit the right target. The only time I've accepted I would use my firearms on someone is in defense of my home. Come onto my property I'll drop you like a rock and sleep fine. Other than that I leave it to trained to defend the public.
This is a good question. Asking if you would is one thing. Actually doing it in the circumstances is another. I’ve never been in the military, and I’ve never been an officer. I know many people who have been one or both. I’ve heard many stories. I’ve heard stories about officers that should have used their weapon, or had to draw it at least, and froze up. Obviously, that wasn’t the most prepared/trained or experienced officer. I’m in the camp that says go for it. In all honesty, it’s probabl the ‘right” thing to do. After all, how are you going to feel if the robber actually did kill someone? Could’ve, would’ve, should’ve. Me personally, I don’t have a concealed carry permit. That is something I plan on doing in the very near future. However, I’m like Eric. I’m not sure I would actually carry. To me, it’s worth it just not to have to wait 3 days anymore. But, if I did carry and was in that situation, I’d want to say yes. Would definitely have to feel the situation out and make damn sure you got a shot that won’t injure or kill anyone else. Not to mention, I know I’m not trained like an officer or vet would be. So it’s not ingrained in me to be handling those situations. You see so may of these stories on the news. Sometimes the good guy doesn’t always come out on top and he’s in the national news. That fear would be in the back of my head. Getting arrested for doing what is right.
(01-31-2019, 09:44 AM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ] Sometimes the good guy doesn’t always come out on top and he’s in the national news. That fear would be in the back of my head. Getting arrested for doing what is right.
Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
You pull out a gun to commit a crime... you live (or die) with the consequences.
For a robbery no.
A school shooter or the like, yes.
(01-31-2019, 12:49 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (01-31-2019, 09:44 AM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ] Sometimes the good guy doesn’t always come out on top and he’s in the national news. That fear would be in the back of my head. Getting arrested for doing what is right.
Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
I’ve heard that saying many times in reference to survival. I suppose that applies to this as well. Now if the guy turn his gun on me or already fired a shot, no brainer. If it seemed like the typical, let me waive this around and get a hundred or so from a drawer, then I’m not sure especially if I was further away from the action. I still feel someone trained would be more apt to pull the trigger. I wouldn’t blame anyone who did. I guess I feel like I have a lot to lose. Sitting in prison wouldn’t be fun way to watch my daughter grow up. Seems like as the years pass, even in doing what is right, the victim(robber in this case) somehow gets protection. Or if that’s not the case, then you have the guys family suing the [BLEEP] out of you because you killed little ‘fill in the blank”. ‘He had soo much potential and talent” bs. That’s the part I want nothing to deal with.
So I guess mark me down for if my immediate (or family if they were with me) life was in danger or if shots already fired I’d do it. Otherwise, let the authorities handle it. Wouldn’t blame a anyone or judge anyone that did or would.
I'm not sure I could do it. I guess it depends on the exact situation. If I really believed the robber was going to kill someone at that moment, I would hope I could do it ... If I never find out the answer to that question would be fine with me.
(01-31-2019, 05:57 PM)Sammy Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure I could do it. I guess it depends on the exact situation. If I really believed the robber was going to kill someone at that moment, I would hope I could do it ... If I never find out the answer to that question would be fine with me.
That’s about where I’m at. Not because of la k of wanting to. But more so putting myself into the situation and and figuring what I’d actually do. I’ll take a life no questions asked if was a home invasion or whatever. Or if my family or I was in risk. Call me a coward or call me cold. But if others are affected, I’m not sure I’d take a life, even if I knew I was in the right. Which is why I posted above about those who have served or been in law enforcement. It’s not engrained in me to do that. I naturally want to say yes. But would I?