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Quote:The browns and niners aren't likely to regret those decisions. The bears might.


If the Jags regret signing a player other than Fournette in the first it will more likely be Adams or McCaffrey than one of the QBs IMO. I think Fournette will work out OK though.
agree, I think Fournette was the 4th best player in the draft behind Garrett, Adams, and McCaffrey
Quote:The browns and niners aren't likely to regret those decisions. The bears might. 

 

If the Jags regret not signing a player in the first it will more likely be Adams or McCaffrey than one of the QBs IMO.  I think Fournette will work out OK though. 
 

Jamal Adams got drafted 6th overall.  Ronnie Lott got drafted 8th.  Eric Berry was drafted 5th and Earl Thomas 14th the same year. That seems way too high to draft a safety unless you are sure he's going to be All Pro.  If you are taking a defensive back top five he better be Deion Sanders.
Quote:Jamal Adams got drafted 6th overall.  Ronnie Lott got drafted 8th.  Eric Berry was drafted 5th and Earl Thomas 14th the same year. That seems way too high to draft a safety unless you are sure he's going to be All Pro.  If you are taking a defensive back top five he better be Deion Sanders.
You are missing the point.   I'm keenly aware of the typical positional value for safeties.

 

The question posed was about regretting not drafting a player.  I think the Jags are more likely to regret passing on Adams (however early 4 may be for a safety) than they are to regret not taking one of the 1st round QBs. 

 

Regarding your final sentence:  Where did we draft Ramsey again?  

 

hint: top 5

Quote:The browns and niners aren't likely to regret those decisions. The bears might. 

 

If the Jags regret not signing a player in the first it will more likely be Adams or McCaffrey than one of the QBs IMO.  I think Fournette will work out OK though. 
 

Agree.


 

There really wasn't a good player at a position of need for the Jags. Fournette was an exceptional player, admittedly at a position that has been downgraded in recent years. Ideally the Jags would have traded down, but that wasn't possible this year and Caldwell has never managed to trade down; it's his biggest weakness.


 

Maybe Watson or one of the other QBs turns out better than Bortles, but guessing which one is a fools errand.

Quote:Jamal Adams got drafted 6th overall. Ronnie Lott got drafted 8th. Eric Berry was drafted 5th and Earl Thomas 14th the same year. That seems way too high to draft a safety unless you are sure he's going to be All Pro. If you are taking a defensive back top five he better be Deion Sanders.


I don't know, I don't really agree with this argument anymore. Before rookie salaries weren't slotted the way they are now so it never made sense to draft a position like DB that high. Now that it's slotted, I see no reason why not to pick a guy that high if he is high on your board.
Quote:Well, the "highlight reels" on Youtube sure won't, but if you search for the player vs his various opponents, they'll show you every snap in the game so you get the whole picture as in the good with the bad.


 

For instance, this is his game vs Ole Miss...


 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">https://youtu.be/BOw_cf0wlcE

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Notice how he's stuffed for losses on his first two attempts.
 

I found this site very helpful for tape on players.

 

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/leonard-fournette/

 

14 Videos of Fournette

 

No highlights

 

Shows every snap and you can watch a whole game in 5-8 minutes
Quote:You are missing the point.   I'm keenly aware of the typical positional value for safeties.

 

The question posed was about regretting not drafting a player.  I think the Jags are more likely to regret passing on Adams (however early 4 may be for a safety) than they are to regret not taking one of the 1st round QBs. 

 

Regarding your final sentence:  Where did we draft Ramsey again?  

 

hint: top 5
Well, Ramsey is a cornerback.  I would draft a cornerback top five.
Quote:Well, Ramsey is a cornerback.  I would draft a cornerback top five.
Back-pedal much? 

 

Quote: If you are taking a defensive back top five he better be Deion Sanders.
 
 

A cornerback is in fact a DB by definition, you know. 

Quote:Hater


Leo are you still thinking that Blake will be the next Brady now that Gus is unemployed?
Quote:Leo are you still thinking that Blake will be the next Brady now that Gus is unemployed?

Nope but I do think he's going to be better than what folks like you think of him.
Quote:I don't know, I don't really agree with this argument anymore. Before rookie salaries weren't slotted the way they are now so it never made sense to draft a position like DB that high. Now that it's slotted, I see no reason why not to pick a guy that high if he is high on your board.
 

Some of the funniest, moronic posts I read this offseason were complaints about what the salary would be for who we selected.

 

It doesn't matter... it's slotted and you can't do a thing about it.

 

Makes zero sense in looking at it in cash terms.  It's set.

 

Pick the player you value most, regardless.

 

Money doesn't factor any longer as it's mostly pre-set.  Only wrinkles or potential hangups are guarantees, options, and language.  Otherwise, you already know the ballpark of the overall package.
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