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I'd take Brown, Butler, and Harry over Campbell. I do like the speed and athleticism though

I'd wait on receiver. Unless there is no player of adequate value sitting there at 38 who plays TE or RT, then and only then would I consider a receiver with that pick.

Richardson and Cann must have some competition for that right side - and there's no way in hell I'm rolling into 2019 with Swaim and O'Shaughnessy as TE1 and TE2. Gotta get one of the top tier TEs from this class IMO.

AJ Brown and Metcalf are the only 2 WR I'd take in the 2nd if we draft Hockenson in the 1st. Unless Lindsteom or McGary is there then I'd have to think about who I want. If Ferguson falls to the 2nd hed be hard to pass up as well

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I'd rather Hockenson and Ferguson in the 1st and 2nd than Sweat and Irv Smith

(03-28-2019, 06:58 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]If this WR is still sitting there in round two when we pick, we have to grab him.

I don't think so. I don't feel WR is that big of a need. TE, OG, OT, FS are all much bigger needs IMO.

(03-28-2019, 09:12 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]AJ Brown and Metcalf are the only 2 WR I'd take in the 2nd if we draft Hockenson in the 1st.  Unless Lindsteom or McGary is there then I'd have to think about who I want.  If Ferguson falls to the 2nd hed be hard to pass up as well

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I'd rather Hockenson and Ferguson in the 1st and 2nd than Sweat and Irv Smith

Agree on all of this. If we take Hockenson (50-50 chance), my 2nd round board would look like this:

1.Lindstrom
2. McGary
3. Adderley
4. Ferguson
5. A.J. Brown (Metcalf will be gone for sure)

WR shouldn't be touched until the 3rd round...unless a big talent falls there which Campbell isn't (I like him in the 3rd tho).

We need to go TE/OL in the 1st/2nd round and there is serious thought that they go DL in the 1st so going DL/WR in the 1st/2nd would be disastrous for Foles Future health.

Paris is a nice luxury to have but im not spending a high pick on a guy who is a total projection in the intermediate and deep game.

(03-28-2019, 10:08 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2019, 06:58 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]If this WR is still sitting there in round two when we pick, we have to grab him.

I don't think so. I don't feel WR is that big of a need. TE, OG, OT, FS are all much bigger needs IMO.

I understand some of the arguments to go a different direction, but how is WR not just as much of a need? Have you taken a look at our WRs lately? We have nobody capable of the #1 spot... Dede is ok, and Chark has potential, but that's about it. Conley is sort of a utility #4 WR, and then we have the $9 mil Lee who is only good for slants and blocking. Cole is absolute garbage and should be waived now. I wouldn't even complain if we did take Metcalf at #7, but I agree that pick really has to go for a TE or RT.

Parris is a legit starting deep threat. We need him bad.

Rather Deebo Samuel in round 2 over Paris.

All that speed and only avg 11.8 ypc. Pass.

(03-28-2019, 05:10 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2019, 10:08 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think so. I don't feel WR is that big of a need. TE, OG, OT, FS are all much bigger needs IMO.

I understand some of the arguments to go a different direction, but how is WR not just as much of a need? Have you taken a look at our WRs lately? We have nobody capable of the #1 spot... Dede is ok, and Chark has potential, but that's about it. Conley is sort of a utility #4 WR, and then we have the $9 mil Lee who is only good for slants and blocking. Cole is absolute garbage and should be waived now. I wouldn't even complain if we did take Metcalf at #7, but I agree that pick really has to go for a TE or RT.

Parris is a legit starting deep threat. We need him bad.

Maybe its lower down the list because we have less than what you listed trotting out at RG/RT/TE.

This draft just so happens to have some nice TE in the 1st round and some solid/nice OL that will be available in the 2nd.

The WR class is also pretty deep this year and Campbell could be there in the 3rd along with some other nice WRs.

(03-28-2019, 10:14 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2019, 09:12 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]AJ Brown and Metcalf are the only 2 WR I'd take in the 2nd if we draft Hockenson in the 1st.  Unless Lindsteom or McGary is there then I'd have to think about who I want.  If Ferguson falls to the 2nd hed be hard to pass up as well

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I'd rather Hockenson and Ferguson in the 1st and 2nd than Sweat and Irv Smith

Agree on all of this. If we take Hockenson (50-50 chance), my 2nd round board would look like this:

1.Lindstrom
2. McGary
3. Adderley
4. Ferguson
5. A.J. Brown (Metcalf will be gone for sure)

I'd be ok with either Brown, as in AJ or Marquise, in round two, but don't sleep on Parris. Dude can run a 4.3-flat, and he's one of the highest graded WRs at nfl.com. I guess we can still get a guy like Arcega-Whiteside in round three, but we're desperate for an immediate starter. Waiting a round highly increases your chances of possibly missing, and we can't afford to miss at WR. I'd advocate going WR in rounds 2 and 4 because we can really use two.  It's not like we have WRs that can otherwise get by with. We have to do something there.

(03-28-2019, 05:28 PM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2019, 05:10 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]I understand some of the arguments to go a different direction, but how is WR not just as much of a need? Have you taken a look at our WRs lately? We have nobody capable of the #1 spot... Dede is ok, and Chark has potential, but that's about it. Conley is sort of a utility #4 WR, and then we have the $9 mil Lee who is only good for slants and blocking. Cole is absolute garbage and should be waived now. I wouldn't even complain if we did take Metcalf at #7, but I agree that pick really has to go for a TE or RT.

Parris is a legit starting deep threat. We need him bad.

Maybe its lower down the list because we have less than what you listed trotting out at RG/RT/TE.

This draft just so happens to have some nice TE in the 1st round and some solid/nice OL that will be available in the 2nd.

The WR class is also pretty deep this year and Campbell could be there in the 3rd along with some other nice WRs.

We just gave Cann a huge extension to remain our starting RG, and given Marrone's recent comments about him, I don't see that changing. Our OL is set outside of RT which I agree we do need just as much. Indeed we have to go RT early as well.

If we get Hockenson then I can see going RT in round two and WR in round three... otherwise I expect a RT in round one. At that point, we're probably better off going WR in round two and TE in round three. I'd be stoked if Campbell is still there in round three, but I'm doubting he lasts that long.

(03-28-2019, 05:19 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]All that speed and only avg 11.8 ypc.   Pass.

Look who he had throwing him the ball.

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(03-28-2019, 05:37 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2019, 05:28 PM)BlueEyedJag Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe its lower down the list because we have less than what you listed trotting out at RG/RT/TE.

This draft just so happens to have some nice TE in the 1st round and some solid/nice OL that will be available in the 2nd.

The WR class is also pretty deep this year and Campbell could be there in the 3rd along with some other nice WRs.

We just gave Cann a huge extension to remain our starting RG, and given Marrone's recent comments about him, I don't see that changing. Our OL is set outside of RT which I agree we do need just as much. Indeed we have to go RT early as well.

If we get Hockenson then I can see going RT in round two and WR in round three... otherwise I expect a RT in round one. At that point, we're probably better off going WR in round two and TE in round three. I'd be stoked if Campbell is still there in round three, but I'm doubting he lasts that long.

I'd take Isabella over him. Gonna call it now, Isabella wont make it to the 3rd. Hes gonna be a star

(03-28-2019, 05:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2019, 05:19 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]All that speed and only avg 11.8 ypc.   Pass.

Look who he had throwing him the ball.

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No way. He's NFL comparison is Cordell Patterson.  Cordell Patterson sucks as a WR. He's tall and fast but doesn't know how to run routes, get open, and separate on his breaks.

(03-28-2019, 05:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2019, 05:19 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]All that speed and only avg 11.8 ypc.   Pass.

Look who he had throwing him the ball.

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(03-28-2019, 05:37 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]We just gave Cann a huge extension to remain our starting RG, and given Marrone's recent comments about him, I don't see that changing. Our OL is set outside of RT which I agree we do need just as much. Indeed we have to go RT early as well.

If we get Hockenson then I can see going RT in round two and WR in round three... otherwise I expect a RT in round one. At that point, we're probably better off going WR in round two and TE in round three. I'd be stoked if Campbell is still there in round three, but I'm doubting he lasts that long.

I'd take Isabella over him. Gonna call it now, Isabella wont make it to the 3rd.  Hes gonna be a star

I'm tempted to take this bet. There's no placing Isabella among the top 10 WRs this year, so I'm saying he at least makes it to the first pick in round three.

If you disagree about not being able to place him in the top 10, then go ahead and show me even one published ranking with him listed as high.

(03-28-2019, 05:57 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2019, 05:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Look who he had throwing him the ball.

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I'd take Isabella over him. Gonna call it now, Isabella wont make it to the 3rd.  Hes gonna be a star

I'm tempted to take this bet. There's no placing Isabella among the top 10 WRs this year, so I'm saying he at least makes it to the first pick in round three.

If you disagree about not being able to place him in the top 10, then go ahead and show me even one published ranking with him listed as high.

I could see NE grabbing him with one of their 2nd rounders.

(03-28-2019, 05:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2019, 05:19 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]All that speed and only avg 11.8 ypc.   Pass.

Look who he had throwing him the ball.

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(03-28-2019, 05:37 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]We just gave Cann a huge extension to remain our starting RG, and given Marrone's recent comments about him, I don't see that changing. Our OL is set outside of RT which I agree we do need just as much. Indeed we have to go RT early as well.

If we get Hockenson then I can see going RT in round two and WR in round three... otherwise I expect a RT in round one. At that point, we're probably better off going WR in round two and TE in round three. I'd be stoked if Campbell is still there in round three, but I'm doubting he lasts that long.

I'd take Isabella over him. Gonna call it now, Isabella wont make it to the 3rd.  Hes gonna be a star

I agree. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/patriotswir...bella/amp/

(03-28-2019, 05:47 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2019, 05:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Look who he had throwing him the ball.

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No way. He's NFL comparison is Cordell Patterson.  Cordell Patterson sucks as a WR. He's tall and fast but doesn't know how to run routes, get open, and separate on his breaks.

Not sure you can take an NFL comp as literal as that.