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Forget the penalties and fines, I'm worried about him getting concussions and not being available.

(04-26-2019, 11:56 PM)sfljaguarsfan Wrote: [ -> ]First pick I didn't like. Ehh well, maybe he'll end up being a good sleeper (hey its happened before) or maybe he'll be a special teamer lol.

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Still sitting there undrafted:

Deionte Thompson
Chauncey-Gardner
Hakeem Butler
Riley Ridley
Ryan Finley

(04-26-2019, 11:55 PM)fredalwaysajag Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2019, 11:39 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Caldwell specifically called him a LB and a Special Team player. He isn't here to play Safety.

https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/stat...6046516224

https://twitter.com/danielrpopper/status...8518508544

Yeah I caught that.  He does remind me of Jebrill Peppers though, for some reason. "Starter traits..." Now thats interesting.

(04-26-2019, 11:44 PM)JagsorDie Wrote: [ -> ]was fun to watch... but boy, this guy could be looking at the leader of the team for fines lol... he doesn't hold back at all.

I was thinking that too.  Kid has gotta stay clean.  Those are the most frustrating with our ole' team.  The guys just get so riled up and aggressive, but some stuff is just bone headed.  Somebody needs to really coach him up and maybe show a reel of fine-able hits and such.

 I firmly believe he could of still been there in rd 5 or possibly 6 or 7 but I guess the Jags didn't want to take a chance. I believe Deionte Thompson or Hakeem Butler would of been of better value.

(04-26-2019, 11:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Why waste a 3rd rounder on a guy who will probably be a special teamer? We need a RG, FS, RB and WR

Thank you!!!!!! I’m guessing he was on their board in that position and that [BLEEP] was their 3rd round pick??? Maybe someone knows somebody somewhere that has an inside line on him and thought another team would take him? Or maybe they heard Belichick talked with him on the phone for 2 hrs...


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(04-26-2019, 11:54 PM)Pick 6 Wrote: [ -> ]What happened to BAP picks if Caldwell is reaching for a LB with "starter traits"?

Hahaha right!?


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Well it looks like he’s in fine company




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(04-27-2019, 12:35 AM)PortDawgJags808 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2019, 11:55 PM)fredalwaysajag Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I caught that.  He does remind me of Jebrill Peppers though, for some reason. "Starter traits..." Now thats interesting.
I was thinking that too.  Kid has gotta stay clean.  Those are the most frustrating with our ole' team.  The guys just get so riled up and aggressive, but some stuff is just bone headed.  Somebody needs to really coach him up and maybe show a reel of fine-able hits and such.

 I firmly believe he could of still been there in rd 5 or possibly 6 or 7 but I guess the Jags didn't want to take a chance. I believe Deionte Thompson or Hakeem Butler would of been of better value.

The BR have been hating on Butler all draft long. No clue who their sources are, but they have said NFL not high on him.

I remember a few analysts mentioning that the reason so many FA safeties got paid this year, is that scouts were not high on this safety class. Might be part of why most of them fell including Thompson.

Peppers is definitely a flawed player, but getting a poor man's Peppers at the end of the 3rd/beginning 4th would be great value.

(04-26-2019, 11:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Why waste a 3rd rounder on a guy who will probably be a special teamer? We need a RG, FS, RB and WR

Apparently Dave felt we needed an OLB, lol.

So apparently Oliver’s knack for getting open is pretty good... which is saying something for a guy who is 6’5. They used him all over the place too which is really good to see. They even had him as a wing back on a couple plays from the vids I’ve just watched. Here’s an ok quality vid with a really annoying song “imo”, but shows some pretty damn good upside. As far as catching the ball his hands look like a My Pillow commercial.

https://youtu.be/2JdumNCha84


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(04-27-2019, 01:20 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2019, 11:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Why waste a 3rd rounder on a guy who will probably be a special teamer? We need a RG, FS, RB and WR

Apparently Dave felt we needed an OLB, lol.

We did need an LB. After Jack and Telvin, there was no one who really stepped up to be reliable at the position all last year. And their health over the past 2 seasons have been incredibly lucky for the position looking at LB injuries league wide. I know they signed Ryan from GBP, but they need more reliable depth at the position. 

If they really feel he can fill that role, than that is great. They may even view him as Telvin's replacement in 2020 if Telvin has another poor year.

(04-26-2019, 09:49 PM)archer56 Wrote: [ -> ]Nonfactor in the run game?!?! Never thought coughlin would go with that

Me either.

But according to Caldwell, Oliver can be a good blocker.

"Caldwell called Oliver a productive tight end with the ability to catch and be an efficient blocker. He also visited the Jaguars in the pre-draft process."

https://www.jaguars.com/news/wrapping-da...-the-boxes

(04-26-2019, 11:54 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]There are some articles about Quinnen where he credits Quincy for keeping him in line and working hard, especially after their mother died.

He seems like a very hard worker and dedicated to football.  They played Louisville in 2017 and Kentucky in 2018, but I only see one highlight on ESPN where I can even find him on the field, us the underneath zone on a TD throw.

One person commented on his Youtube highlight video before today. Someone questioning the Steelers picking him in the 5th.

I understand he may have been the last LB with starter traits on their board, but this just feels like the new pick we look back on to replace taking a punter in the 3rd round.

I was thinking more like Derek Cox.   In the 2009 draft, we traded a 2010 2nd round pick for a 2009 3rd round pick, and picked a guy who was not listed in the top 100 CBs anywhere.  He was okay.  He was named to a couple of all-rookie teams.   He had 4 interceptions for us in the 2012 season.    

But at the time he was drafted, none of the on-air pundits had any information on him whatsoever!  It was pretty embarrassing at the time.

Wish we would’ve went with Grier. Can’t go into this season with Kessler as our backup.

A positive on Quincy

https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/stat...0166225920

After watching YouTube highlights and sleeping on it, the lil bro of bamas William's, this guy is gonna be star. He nasty and good. Caldwell the genius of hidden gems strikes again.

(04-27-2019, 09:10 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]After watching YouTube highlights and sleeping on it, the lil bro of bamas William's, this guy is gonna be star. He nasty and good. Caldwell the genius of hidden gems strikes again.

I hope so, but can't even lie, I think so too.  I figure, if selecting from top end SEC talent is your thing, and as a GM (VP) you step outside of that and go for a small school prospect at the end of the 3rd?  When everyone's job is teetering on the line? The guy has got to have something they really like.  

These evaluaters do this for a living.  I gotta trust that they know better than me.

After looking at who is left, I'd be targeting these players.
OG Nick Allegretti
OG Beau Benschawel
OG B.J. Autry
WR Keelan Doss
OG Dru Samia
S Amani Hooker
S Khari Willis
S Marvell Tell
OG Alex Bars
OG Trevon Tate
S Lukas Denis
OG Ben Powers
S Sheldrick Redwine
S Tyree Kinnel
S Darius West
RB Wes Hills
RB Devine Ozigbo
RB/WR Tony Pollard
OG/C Bunchy Stallings
WR Jazz Ferguson
OG/OT O'Shea Dugas
OG/OT Ryan Bates
WR Gary Jennings
RB Darrin Hall
RB Ryquell Armstead
WR Lil' Jordan Humphey
WR Dillon Mitchell
WR Preston Williams

(04-27-2019, 08:42 AM)Jags239 Wrote: [ -> ]Wish we would’ve went with Grier. Can’t go into this season with Kessler as our backup.

Agreed, though there are still some solid QB prospects on the board.

I'd be happy with Findley, Stidham or Rypien.

(04-27-2019, 08:42 AM)Jags239 Wrote: [ -> ]Wish we would’ve went with Grier. Can’t go into this season with Kessler as our backup.

I wonder if they like what they see from Lee? Agree on Grier though

(04-27-2019, 09:10 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]After watching YouTube highlights and sleeping on it, the lil bro of bamas William's, this guy is gonna be star. He nasty and good. Caldwell the genius of hidden gems strikes again.

I hope Caldwell nails this pick and looks like a genius.

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3rd and last day of the 2019 NFL draft. Let's go!!

There goes Hakeem Butler

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Could there be a run on QB's this round?