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1. The offensive line as a whole. Cam's coming off season ending knee surgery, Norwell is coming off season ending surgery and so is Linder. A.J. Cann is average at BEST and we have a rookie projected to start at RT. I have very little faith in this unit for 2019.

2. The TE position. Oliver has the highest ceiling, but he needs to work on his blocking. Swaim is below average in my eyes and the rest of the unit is "just guys" IMO. Foles relies heavily on the TE's as receivers, so we'll see what happens.

3. Foles. I don't have a lot of faith in the O-Line and Foles needs a clean pocket. I hope he is able to stay healthy.

4. WR's- A new QB will take time to develop chemistry and timing with. Can this be done before the regular season starts?

5. The running game. With Foles at the helm. we will be relying less on the run, but we still need to be effective. Can Fournette stay healthy and can the O-Line open significant running lanes?

6. Taven Bryan at 3 technique. So far, I'm less than impressed with Bryan. Will he be a liability?

7. Who will play WLB? Personally, I would move Jack to the weakside and play Ryan at MLB with Allen playing rotating between DE and strongside linebacker in certain pass rush situations, but I doubt this is how it goes.

8. How much of a dropoff will there be at the Free Safety position?

My concerns for success this year ranked...
Cam Robinson's effectiveness at LT
Jawaan Taylor's (or other) effectiveness at RT
Finding a good 3rd down RB to give the offense a passing weapon and protection for Foles
Backup QB should Foles get injured
WLB playmaking should Telvin not return

(05-25-2019, 11:07 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

• Foles' development with this current offensive unit and staff
  
• Fournette's durability and maturity 
  
• Inexperience at Safety
  
• Inexperience at Outside Linebacker
  
• Overall health of the offensive lineman group
  

Those are really my five primary concerns for the year so far. Which I think most of us on here all share. But most of it hinges on Foles' and Flip on offense. You can overcome a lot of the other issues listed below him if you put enough points on the board.

Pretty much agree with all of this.

(05-25-2019, 11:57 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-25-2019, 11:07 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

• Foles' development with this current offensive unit and staff
  
• Fournette's durability and maturity 
  
• Inexperience at Safety
  
• Inexperience at Outside Linebacker
  
• Overall health of the offensive lineman group
  

Those are really my five primary concerns for the year so far. Which I think most of us on here all share. But most of it hinges on Foles' and Flip on offense. You can overcome a lot of the other issues listed below him if you put enough points on the board.

Pretty much agree with all of this.

Flip the order a bit imo.

Foles performance.
Overall health and performance of the o line.
Fournette.
Linebacker, all of them.
Safety is a ?

Add in can the defense gel and mesh to perform at a high level.  Allen has to be who we/I think he is.

Who will step up at WR?

(05-25-2019, 08:33 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-25-2019, 04:12 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]There are rotational players at DT to spell Taven when he needs it. 
There are four Defensive Tackles on the roster behind Dareus, Jones, Bryan and Ankou. One of those guys will likely show enough at 3 tech to back up Taven Bryan. 
When you've got Campbell, Allen, Ngakoue and Dareus all working along along the line rotationally, it's not like you need to ask the world of your back-up 3 tech.  Just get in there and get some push. 

Westbrook and Chark are our primary return specialists, and Cunningham has experience there too.  All are "legit." 
There's also the undrafted kid, Walker from Boston College who looks promising in that role if he can stick on the 53.

None of those names exactly thrill me as return specialists.

...

As I've looked back and re-evaluated the unknown w/respect to player performances, I just realized that the coaching staff definitely has an major part in the team's success.

The first that comes to mind is RB coach Terry Ribiskie. How well will he revamp a complete new backfield?

McCardell, will he get the most out of his receiving Corp in 2019?

Will the coordinators employ the proper scheme to maximize the talent that we have?

So even though the players are prime targets to be ridiculed for deficiencies, the coaching staff, GM and President of FB operations to whom has final say w/respect to the roster, they must share the spotlight.

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

1. offenssive line 

2. foles staying healthy.  

3. our run defense,we didn't have a good one last year with telvin smith. 99 yard td run in 1 play. after that game teams really ran all over us.

4. not haveign a go to wr. 

5.foles thinking of quting again if things are not going well.

6.fornate staying healthy,and being part of the team.

(05-26-2019, 10:57 AM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]1. offenssive line 

2. foles staying healthy.  

3. our run defense,we didn't have a good one last year with telvin smith. 99 yard td run in 1 play. after that game teams really ran all over us.

4. not haveign a go to wr. 

5.foles thinking of quting again if things are not going well.

6.fornate staying healthy,and being part of the team.

Question #1 is relevant to question #2.

1. Foles staying healthy the entire season.
2. Fournette being motivated and remaining healthy for at least 12 games.
3. Cam Robinson comes back from injury and performs at high level.

If these 3 things happen, this team can go DEEP into the playoffs. If any of these do not happen, forget about the playoffs. If Foles misses a significant number of games, they will be picking in the top 10 of next year's draft and will have a new coach and general manager.

(05-25-2019, 11:56 AM)jagshype Wrote: [ -> ]Fournette
Fournette
Fournette

Without a consistent solid run game, Foles and the pass game personnel is not good enough to carry the offense for a season. Maybe a few game stretches but not a significant stretch of games.

Everything else is workable and hideable

If you're right, then signing Foles was a waste. Really, Foles should be making things easier for Fournette, not the other way around.

My concern with the oline is a bit more specific. I am worried about how the oline was constructed compared to the new QB we will have to protect. We now have probably the heaviest footed OT tandem in the league. As we all know by now, Cam led the league in pressures allowed his rookie season, but his sack total was relatively modest. I think that despite all of Blake's drawbacks, we can credit him for keeping many pressures as pressures and not sacks (yes I know he ran into the occasional sack too). Will a larger percentage of those pressures turn into sacks with the far less fleet of foot Foles standing in the pocket? I fear that may be the case.

I know the easy response will be that Foles will get the ball out faster, and that will be true to an extent, but I think overall Foles back there will be a net negative for the oline's image.

(05-27-2019, 08:58 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]My concern with the oline is a bit more specific. I am worried about how the oline was constructed compared to the new QB we will have to protect. We now have probably the heaviest footed OT tandem in the league. As we all know by now, Cam led the league in pressures allowed his rookie season, but his sack total was relatively modest. I think that despite all of Blake's drawbacks, we can credit him for keeping many pressures as pressures and not sacks (yes I know he ran into the occasional sack too). Will a larger percentage of those pressures turn into sacks with the far less fleet of foot Foles standing in the pocket? I fear that may be the case.

I know the easy response will be that Foles will get the ball out faster, and that will be true to an extent, but I think overall Foles back there will be a net negative for the oline's image.

There's always a trade off. I think the key is really on the play calling during Foles' first year under center. We cannot get into obvious passing situations too much. And we have to win consistently on 1st down to make 2nd and 3rd down situations more favorable and manageable. I expect a lot more out of Foles' than I ever did out of Bortles'. He's statistically had some pretty impressive years in the NFL. He's played in a lot more high pressure and meaningful games. 

I think the play calling will indicate all of that. Quicker calls, better overall designs, more timing routes and more trust in him to drop back and make the right decision with the football in his hands. As long as Linder, Robinson and Taylor can hold up I think we'll be fine this year. 

I just don't want to see obvious run formations with predictable play calling as a fan. And I don't want to see them try to run it twice in a row or three times in a row just for the sake of trying to "establish" something. [BLEEP] all of that. Get creative out there is all I am asking. So what if we look like the Patriots or Saints with the dink and dunk passes and a deep shot here and there? [BLEEP] it! It works. Let's get away from the archaic 1970's and get up to speed in 2019.

(05-27-2019, 08:58 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]My concern with the oline is a bit more specific. I am worried about how the oline was constructed compared to the new QB we will have to protect. We now have probably the heaviest footed OT tandem in the league. As we all know by now, Cam led the league in pressures allowed his rookie season, but his sack total was relatively modest. I think that despite all of Blake's drawbacks, we can credit him for keeping many pressures as pressures and not sacks (yes I know he ran into the occasional sack too). Will a larger percentage of those pressures turn into sacks with the far less fleet of foot Foles standing in the pocket? I fear that may be the case.

I know the easy response will be that Foles will get the ball out faster, and that will be true to an extent, but I think overall Foles back there will be a net negative for the oline's image.

The eagles dialed up more and more quick hit passes for Foles late last season for this very reason and it worked. 

Foles went from averaging around 3.2 seconds to get the ball out to 2.2 -2.3 over the final 4 weeks of the reg season and accordingly he went from throwing under pressure around 35% of the time down to around 15-20% of the time. 

I'd wager this information is not lost on our new coordinator who was present for all of this. 
I'd also wager Foles had this element of the game in mind when he discussed the dialogue he's having with his new running backs group and preparing them to be looking for the ball. 

If Robinson and Taylor are as bad as you think they'll be, Foles and Flip will likely be prepared to steer the offense in this direction. 

(05-27-2019, 09:21 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]If Robinson and Taylor are as bad as you think they'll be

I don't know about "as bad as I think"...but I do think they'll be susceptible to speed rushers, much like Cam and Parnell were. They'll win most of their reps just cause they're very big, long, and strong (and because odds dictate that to begin with)...but when they get beat I think it will happen very quickly and there won't be much that a playcall will help with.

(05-27-2019, 09:35 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-27-2019, 09:21 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]If Robinson and Taylor are as bad as you think they'll be

I don't know about "as bad as I think"...but I do think they'll be susceptible to speed rushers, much like Cam and Parnell were. They'll win most of their reps just cause they're very big, long, and strong (and because odds dictate that to begin with)...but when they get beat I think it will happen very quickly and there won't be much that a playcall will help with.

I think we'll see a lot of TE involvement this year. In every aspect of the game on offense.  

They'll chip block or set up quick screen passes when defenses are caught sleeping. They'll be moved around a lot. They'll line up in the slot, move inside, chip and run out for a quick hit or line-up in the backfield from time to time.

I saw it a lot last year and the year before with the Eagles. I still think Robinson and Taylor are going to be above average more times than not in the blocking department in 2019. But between O'Shaughnessy, Oliver & Swaim it'll be an interesting showing at the position. I really, really like O'Shaughnessy too. 

Maybe Hackett didn't utilize him enough or Bortles' wasn't good enough to find him or put the ball on the money when he was open. But I think O'Shaughnessy could very well emerge as one of Foles' favorite targets early and often this year. This is quietly a solid group this front office has compiled this off season. Collectively they could end up being this year's tipping point on offense that allows Fournette to potentially flourish by forcing defenders to respect the outside and over the middle passing game.

(05-27-2019, 09:35 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-27-2019, 09:21 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]If Robinson and Taylor are as bad as you think they'll be

I don't know about "as bad as I think"...but I do think they'll be susceptible to speed rushers, much like Cam and Parnell were. They'll win most of their reps just cause they're very big, long, and strong (and because odds dictate that to begin with)...but when they get beat I think it will happen very quickly and there won't be much that a playcall will help with.

They can assign a back or TE to additionally protect the side where said speed rusher is lining up. 

That is, if this inability to block speed rushers effectively even proves true.

(05-27-2019, 10:35 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-27-2019, 09:35 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know about "as bad as I think"...but I do think they'll be susceptible to speed rushers, much like Cam and Parnell were. They'll win most of their reps just cause they're very big, long, and strong (and because odds dictate that to begin with)...but when they get beat I think it will happen very quickly and there won't be much that a playcall will help with.

They can assign a back or TE to additionally protect the side where said speed rusher is lining up. 

That is, if this inability to block speed rushers effectively even proves true.

Is that going to be enough to fend off JJ Watt and Clowney week two?

(05-27-2019, 12:01 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-27-2019, 10:35 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]They can assign a back or TE to additionally protect the side where said speed rusher is lining up. 

That is, if this inability to block speed rushers effectively even proves true.

Is that going to be enough to fend off JJ Watt and Clowney week two?

If Robinson's knee is strong enough that he really trusts it  - and Taylor isn't a bust, then this o-line can handle the tinhorns pass rush well enough to win. 

Their o-line vs our pass rush is a much greater mismatch. (in our favor) 

Mercilus is actually the pass rusher from that team that I'd be most concerned about versus our line. He has been quite a handful for Cann and Parnell before. Should be a good test to see where Taylor's readiness level is as a rookie.

I know folks have varying levels of concern about our line this year, but Robinson's knee and Taylor's readiness are my only real concerns, and I feel pretty good about that coming together by September. 
 (I'd hoped we'd upgrade Cann at RG, but that's more of a run-blocking issue for me.)

As a side note here, I really liked reading that Richardson felt he was benefiting greatly from Warhop's teaching. 
He could turn out to be a quality depth piece down the stretch for this group -- and many of us have felt some concern about that Flaherty to Warhop coaching change.

(05-27-2019, 12:49 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]As a side note here, I really liked reading that Richardson felt he was benefiting greatly from Warhop's teaching. 
He could turn out to be a quality depth piece down the stretch for this group -- and many of us have felt some concern about that Flaherty to Warhop coaching change.

I won't be surprised at all if Richardson winds up pushing Taylor to RG. I was a big fan of Richardson's pass blocking potential.

(05-27-2019, 02:56 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-27-2019, 12:49 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]As a side note here, I really liked reading that Richardson felt he was benefiting greatly from Warhop's teaching. 
He could turn out to be a quality depth piece down the stretch for this group -- and many of us have felt some concern about that Flaherty to Warhop coaching change.

I won't be surprised at all if Richardson winds up pushing Taylor to RG. I was a big fan of Richardson's pass blocking potential.

I know you seen some tweets about Taylor's good run blocking but he is a much better pass blocker than you think