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Quote:LOL GTFO. Bortles arm is hit on nearly 10% of his passes. The Jags are last in rushing. You may want to watch New England or Dallas to see what a REAL O line looks like.


The Jags pocket is soooo small, Bortles has to run for his life 50% of the time. Jags get pushed around in the trenches and the stats prove it. Watch Tom Brady's pocket and you'll learn something.
 

You must have missed the obvious joke at your expense. But do go on with your Bortles worship. It's fun.
Quote:For now, I am disappointed in Parnell. Penalties and he seems slower.

Luke is average, I don't expect much more from him.


Linder is a good center, but I'd rather see a lineup of Beachum-Cann-???-Linder-Parnell.

Linder was so good as a guard, I hope we could find a good center to fix the Oline.
Linder looks to be just as good at center as he was guard. Its easier to find a guard than a center. We need to find another top guard in the draft
Quote:Linder looks to be just as good at center as he was guard. Its easier to find a guard than a center. We need to find another top guard in the draft


Yes! My gosh everyone wanting to move him back to a less important position is annoying. If he ends up as good at center than as guard, that's a big deal. So far he's looked very solid and at 'least' as good as what we've had the last several years.
Quote:Let's be honest here.  How many of those 12 sacks are on Bortles?


I'd say around 1/4 of them. We know for sure the game where he ran sideways trying to make a play and took the sack was crazy bad. At least he's always trying to make something happen, but he does bring some of those on himself
Quote:I'd say around 1/4 of them. We know for sure the game where he ran sideways trying to make a play and took the sack was crazy bad. At least he's always trying to make something happen, but he does bring some of those on himself
 

When all five starters are on the field, Blake can make something happen. Unfortunately in 3 of our first 4 games, we did not have all of them the whole 60 minutes.
Quote:You must have missed the obvious joke at your expense. But do go on with your Bortles worship. It's fun.
It's funny that people on here like to make fun of spacecoastjag because of his fandom of Bortles but the rest of you like to hate on our own QB at every opportunity. How many topics we have on here criticizing Blake right now and people like you want to get mad because he wants to defend his favorite player? lol. Hell, we won the game yesterday and yet people still complaining about Blake but i guess us as a fan base are traumatized because we lost so many games in the last decade. Bottom line is that i'm starting to wonder if people on this message board can only be happy when they're unhappy and quite frankly it bothers me as a fan of this team. 
People thought Blake was our franchise qb all last year and over the summer, a couple bad games and people are ready to move on. This fan base sucks some times.

Remember we still have to play Chiefs/Broncos/Vikings/Texans
Quote:It's funny that people on here like to make fun of spacecoastjag because of his fandom of Bortles but the rest of you like to hate on our own QB at every opportunity. How many topics we have on here criticizing Blake right now and people like you want to get mad because he wants to defend his favorite player? lol. Hell, we won the game yesterday and yet people still complaining about Blake but i guess us as a fan base are traumatized because we lost so many games in the last decade. Bottom line is that i'm starting to wonder if people on this message board can only be happy when they're unhappy and quite frankly it bothers me as a fan of this team. 
That guy constantly says Blake should leave and move on to another team, that he's a SB QB if he was on team X.Y,Z. He says very outlandish things! He also routinely calls this fan base in inept, etc. He's clearly way more of a Bortles fan than a Jags fan and that's fine, but he's usually completely rude to anyone that questions anything at all about Blake. 

 

Quote:People thought Blake was our franchise qb all last year and over the summer, a couple bad games and people are ready to move on. This fan base sucks some times.
I think most Jaguars fan believe in Blake and like him as our starting QB very much. I love the guy, but you can't ignore the issues he's been having. No one is saying to get rid of him, just that he needs to play better and he does. He's obviously capable of great play. 
Quote:That guy constantly says Blake should leave and move on to another team, that he's a SB QB if he was on team X.Y,Z. He says very outlandish things! He also routinely calls this fan base in inept, etc. He's clearly way more of a Bortles fan than a Jags fan and that's fine, but he's usually completely rude to anyone that questions anything at all about Blake. 

 

I think most Jaguars fan believe in Blake and like him as our starting QB very much. I love the guy, but you can't ignore the issues he's been having. No one is saying to get rid of him, just that he needs to play better and he does. He's obviously capable of great play. 
I don't condone or approve of spacecoastjags way of him expressing his anger towards people who has a different opinion from him regarding blake but i can understand his frustration when this message board is constantly criticizing blake as if we as a fan base is ungrateful. So i apologize for his behavior but at the same time we need to appreciate his passion for his favorite player because at the end of the day we should want and root for Blake to succeed for this franchise. 
Quote:People thought Blake was our franchise qb all last year and over the summer, a couple bad games and people are ready to move on. This fan base sucks some times.
 

The fan base sucks all the time. Every day I post here people are criticizing the team from Shad Khan to third string backups. What's next, cheerleaders?
Quote:... we need to appreciate his passion for his favorite player because at the end of the day we should want and root for Blake to succeed for this franchise. 
 

This is true. ^

 

But many of us have the ability to simultaneously root for him (and even have some optimism he'll succeed) while still acknowledging his deficiencies,  moments of poor play, and bad decisions. 

 

There aren't many QBs in the league that play near perfect football week in and week out.  So no one is expecting that from Blake. But he can't play like he did in week 2 and week 3 and expect to win.

 Wins won't happen often in this league when a QB makes that many errors. (no matter how good or bad his teammates perform)

 

There is nothing wrong with objectively analyzing his ups and downs.  I analyze his mistakes with hope he can fix them and the vast majority of them do seem fixable. Only time will tell. 
Quote:This is true. ^

 

But many of us have the ability to simultaneously root for him (and even have some optimism he'll succeed) while still acknowledging his deficiencies,  moments of poor play, and bad decisions. 

 

There aren't many QBs in the league that play near perfect football week in and week out.  So no one is expecting that from Blake. But he can't play like he did in week 2 and week 3 and expect to win.

 Wins won't happen often in this league when a QB makes that many errors. (no matter how good or bad his teammates perform)

 

There is nothing wrong with objectively analyzing his ups and downs.  I analyze his mistakes with hope he can fix them and the vast majority of them do seem fixable. Only time will tell.


This. The folks that want to get rid of Blake are extremely short sided and typically those knee jerk type. Most of us can recognize Blake has a ton of talent and upside but hasn't played anything like he's shown he's capable. There's nothing wrong with saying he's off, and at points this season that's being generous.
Quote:This is true. ^

 

But many of us have the ability to simultaneously root for him (and even have some optimism he'll succeed) while still acknowledging his deficiencies,  moments of poor play, and bad decisions. 

 

There aren't many QBs in the league that play near perfect football week in and week out.  So no one is expecting that from Blake. But he can't play like he did in week 2 and week 3 and expect to win.

Wins won't happen often in this league when a QB makes that many errors. (no matter how good or bad his teammates perform)

 

There is nothing wrong with objectively analyzing his ups and downs.  I analyze his mistakes with hope he can fix them and the vast majority of them do seem fixable. Only time will tell. 
 

Unfortunately people who have the ability to point out his deficiencies are not so good at writing in an objective manner. Over and over I see criticism that is not paired with praise by the same poster, as if he/she only sees the negatives.
Quote:Unfortunately people who have the ability to point out his deficiencies are not so good at writing in an objective manner. Over and over I see criticism that is not paired with praise by the same poster, as if he/she only sees the negatives.


This an excellent post. Thank you.


I will say that most of us likely get it though. I would hope the root is always based in the desire for our franchise to be successful although sometimes it sure does read like some folks just like to be "right."
Quote:This is true. ^


But many of us have the ability to simultaneously root for him (and even have some optimism he'll succeed) while still acknowledging his deficiencies, moments of poor play, and bad decisions.


There aren't many QBs in the league that play near perfect football week in and week out. So no one is expecting that from Blake. But he can't play like he did in week 2 and week 3 and expect to win.

Wins won't happen often in this league when a QB makes that many errors. (no matter how good or bad his teammates perform)


There is nothing wrong with objectively analyzing his ups and downs. I analyze his mistakes with hope he can fix them and the vast majority of them do seem fixable. Only time will tell.


Here's the rub though and why I am inclined to give space something of a pass...


In the not-to-distant past, Blake did have to be near perfect for us to even have a shot much less actually win because what was around him, especially on defense was so poor.


We, collectively, need to be able to be a little more objective as it pertains to Blake while he adjusts to no longer having to pretend to be Atlas as I feel part of his current crop of issues is directly related to this.
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