Who do you guys think the next addition will be?
Any chance of a guy like Tony Brackens going in?
Look what he did back in 1999:
12 sacks
8 Forced Fumbles
2 interceptions
8 pass deflections
1 TD
2 Fumble Recoveries
13 Tackles for Loss
68 tackles (55 solo)
If he would have played in 2017 as a Jaguar, he would have been in the defensive player of the year awards.
He also had a sack in our first ever playoff game up in Buffalo.
Brackens finished his career with -
55 sacks
25 passes defensed
27 forced fumbles
13 Fumble Recoveries
5 Interceptions
1 Defensive Touchdown
And he only started 75 games. To put that in perspective, after this season Campbell will have started 48 games as a Jaguar.
(07-27-2019, 03:00 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]Who do you guys think the next addition will be?
Any chance of a guy like Tony Brackens going in?
Look what he did back in 1999:
12 sacks
8 Forced Fumbles
2 interceptions
8 pass deflections
1 TD
2 Fumble Recoveries
13 Tackles for Loss
68 tackles (55 solo)
If he would have played in 2017 as a Jaguar, he would have been in the defensive player of the year awards.
He also had a sack in our first ever playoff game up in Buffalo.
Brackens finished his career with -
55 sacks
25 passes defensed
27 forced fumbles
13 Fumble Recoveries
5 Interceptions
1 Defensive Touchdown
And he only started 75 games. To put that in perspective, after this season Campbell will have started 48 games as a Jaguar.
No. I think the Pride should be restricted for the best of the best. For perspective, I'd put Brackens in a similar category as Brunell and I wouldn't have put Brunell in there. He was a good player for us, briefly an elite QB but Boselli, Jimmy, and Fred are the only ones that should be in there to date IMHO.
The next player we could maybe talk about getting in the pride or not is John Henderson or maybe MJD.
I don't think Brackens will ever be in that conversation.
MJD and thats it. Don’t think anyone else should be making it in. Don’t think Brunell should be in there either.
I respect everyone’s opinion on Brunell but did you guys grow up watching him play? I watched every game he played in as a Jaguar.
When he went down with a knee injury up in Nee York against the Giants, I remember it like it was yesterday. It was 1997 in a meaningless preseason game.
The fans and the team was devastated. He made a miraculous comeback on MNF against the Steelers and we won the game 20-3(I think).
I remember all the players saying “As long as we have #8, we have a chance to beat any team.” He was compared to Steve Young early in his career. And it was always talked about how he added another dimension to our offense bc he could hurt teams with his legs.
He was deadly accurate when he threw Smith ‘fade’ routes and out routes on the sideline. If you look closely at the game at Baltimore back in 2000, Jimmy Smith had a game for the ages..but Brunell was throwing darts that game.
If you go back and look at the fade to glory, Brunell put it on the money.
He led the league in passing in 1996, and had over 4,300 yards in 1996! Back then it was run the ball, stop the run type of football.
Jimmy Smith was playing special teams in his early days on the Jags, and McCardell stared just 9 games and only had 700 or 800 yards as a Brown. We pick him up in 1996, and he became a Pro Bowler. Jimmy Smith became a Pro Bowler and was the best WR in the game from 1996 to 2001.
Brunell is hands down the best QB the team has ever had, and it will be a while before anybody else joins that conversation.
He was a 3 time Pro Bowler, back when everyone actually accepted the invitation. He never made the Pro Bowl because 6 other QBs declined the invite. Brunell also won the MVP in the Pro Bowl.
That scramble up in Denver was legendary. The only other play that comes close to that is Garrard’s 4th and 2.
His mechanic and arm strength were top of the line. With Mark, we always had a vertical offense and we could score with any team in the league.
Jimmy - In 2000, he had a career day in Baltimore with 15 catches for 291 yards and 3 TDs. Jimmy led the league in receptions in 1999 with 116. Smith has like 9 1000 yard seasons.
Keenan - In 1996, he had career day in St.Louis with 16 catches 232 yards. 4 out of the 6 years he was a Jaguar, he had 1100 yards or more.
Brunell was the true captain of our team in the early years and he led us to the playoffs 4 times out of the first 5 years, and 2 AFC Title games.
I think Brunell is a top 5 all time great in Jaguars history and he absolutely belongs in the Pride of the Jaguars.
I also agree that MJD has a chance to go in, but he retired like 49th all time on the rushing list and had around 8,000 yards rushing. He did lead the league in rushing with 1600 yards one year. He has a decent shot but I don’t think he’s a sure fire lock to make it. In my opinion he doesn’t compare to Fred Taylor. But that’s just my opinion.
(07-28-2019, 10:46 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]I respect everyone’s opinion on Brunell but did you guys grow up watching him play? I watched every game he played in as a Jaguar.
When he went down with a knee injury up in Nee York against the Giants, I remember it like it was yesterday. It was 1997 in a meaningless preseason game.
The fans and the team was devastated. He made a miraculous comeback on MNF against the Steelers and we won the game 20-3(I think).
I remember all the players saying “As long as we have #8, we have a chance to beat any team.” He was compared to Steve Young early in his career. And it was always talked about how he added another dimension to our offense bc he could hurt teams with his legs.
He was deadly accurate when he threw Smith ‘fade’ routes and out routes on the sideline. If you look closely at the game at Baltimore back in 2000, Jimmy Smith had a game for the ages..but Brunell was throwing darts that game.
If you go back and look at the fade to glory, Brunell put it on the money.
He led the league in passing in 1996, and had over 4,300 yards in 1996! Back then it was run the ball, stop the run type of football.
Jimmy Smith was playing special teams in his early days on the Jags, and McCardell stared just 9 games and only had 700 or 800 yards as a Brown. We pick him up in 1996, and he became a Pro Bowler. Jimmy Smith became a Pro Bowler and was the best WR in the game from 1996 to 2001.
Brunell is hands down the best QB the team has ever had, and it will be a while before anybody else joins that conversation.
He was a 3 time Pro Bowler, back when everyone actually accepted the invitation. He never made the Pro Bowl because 6 other QBs declined the invite. Brunell also won the MVP in the Pro Bowl.
That scramble up in Denver was legendary. The only other play that comes close to that is Garrard’s 4th and 2.
His mechanic and arm strength were top of the line. With Mark, we always had a vertical offense and we could score with any team in the league.
Jimmy - In 2000, he had a career day in Baltimore with 15 catches for 291 yards and 3 TDs. Jimmy led the league in receptions in 1999 with 116. Smith has like 9 1000 yard seasons.
Keenan - In 1996, he had career day in St.Louis with 16 catches 232 yards. 4 out of the 6 years he was a Jaguar, he had 1100 yards or more.
Brunell was the true captain of our team in the early years and he led us to the playoffs 4 times out of the first 5 years, and 2 AFC Title games.
I think Brunell is a top 5 all time great in Jaguars history and he absolutely belongs in the Pride of the Jaguars.
I also agree that MJD has a chance to go in, but he retired like 49th all time on the rushing list and had around 8,000 yards rushing. He did lead the league in rushing with 1600 yards one year. He has a decent shot but I don’t think he’s a sure fire lock to make it. In my opinion he doesn’t compare to Fred Taylor. But that’s just my opinion.
I didn't grow up watching him play, I was an adult while watching him play. He was a solid player, our best QB ever (so far anyway) and had a stretch where he was a top-5 NFL QB for a while. He was also an awesome scrambler and was great in clutch situations. He also had the benefit of playing with a top offensive line, one of the best receiver tandems in NFL history and a possible HOF running back. I definitely like him but in my opinion, he doesn't belong in the Pride. If he gets in there, all the other Pro-bowl Jaguars have to get in there don't they? Pretty soon you have 20 or 25+ players in there and it becomes meaningless. Keep it for the once a decade kind of player. The fact that Boselli, Smith, and Taylor are in just shows how great the teams were in the early days.
Honestly we haven't had legacy players for awhile now. Our talent level on defense was good to great in the Del Rio days but as a team there isn't much to hang your hat on. It was the late 90's teams and then nothing but mediocre football. We have been a talent desert and it is amazing that we are celebrating 25 years. I love the Jaguars but I am a realist. The ownership/front office types haven't done enough since the early franchise start. We have grinded along in mediocrity with a few bright spots. It makes me appreciate the fans more and more. For a relatively small market this fan base has done a lot for the team.