ICE raids on Mississippi food processing plants result in 680 arrests
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said Wednesday that its officers had raided seven food processing plants in
Mississippi and detained approximately 680
"removable aliens" in what a federal prosecutor described as "the largest single-state immigration enforcement operation in our nation's history."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-raids-on-...80-arrests
680 is a drop in the bucket.
if you really want to cut down on this kind of thing, the employers have to be punished, not the workers.
(08-08-2019, 07:17 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]680 is a drop in the bucket.
if you really want to cut down on this kind of thing, the employers have to be punished, not the workers.
Yep, fine them until they bleed.
If only there were laws against this with associated jail time, fines, and loss of business licenses. If only there were recourse for citizens that have been turned down for employment in favor of hired illegals.

(08-08-2019, 08:38 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]If only there were laws against this with associated jail time, fines, and loss of business licenses. If only there were recourse for citizens that have been turned down for employment in favor of hired illegals. 
Of course I agree with you, but with unemployment rates at record lows, I wonder if there can be many citizens have been turned down for these jobs.
(08-08-2019, 08:58 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (08-08-2019, 08:38 AM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]If only there were laws against this with associated jail time, fines, and loss of business licenses. If only there were recourse for citizens that have been turned down for employment in favor of hired illegals. 
Of course I agree with you, but with unemployment rates at record lows, I wonder if there can be many citizens have been turned down for these jobs.
Honestly, I don't think we could ever know exact numbers. The areas that have robust illegal highering practices are typically the same areas that refuse to cooperate with the Federal Government. If numbers were to get reported at all, I have a strong hunch they would be very reserved.
I have a first-hand example of citizens getting denied versus illegals. There was a bid post for contractors to build government housing. A certain company outbid others by a large amount and was hired. One month into construction, there were goals being missed and large delays due to workers not showing up. A government agency frustrated with the progress decided to investigate how the bid was so low and why employment was so erratic. As it turns out, more than 75% of the workforce was illegal, under the table hires. Numerous local contractors had also filed inquiries with the county as to why their experienced laborers were being denied employment in large numbers. ICE came in and raided the construction sites. Eventually, construction was completely halted, one of the contractors was fired, money was recouped, and a different contractor was hired with a stipulation that the government agencies could review their hiring practices/documentation at any time. Housing was completed 6-months later.
(08-08-2019, 07:17 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]680 is a drop in the bucket.
if you really want to cut down on this kind of thing, the employers have to be punished, not the workers.
Well... my work employs a lot of migrant workers. Many of whom all have some sort of paperwork that fills out their I9 and passes through e-verify or whatever checks and balances the government has in place.
You really want to cut down on this thing we need to stop allowing people to cross our border illegally.
And yes, employers should be held responsible for hiring undocumented workers. They should be punished heavily.
At least some people were working in that backward [BLEEP] lazy [BLEEP] state.
(08-08-2019, 09:52 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (08-08-2019, 07:17 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]680 is a drop in the bucket.
if you really want to cut down on this kind of thing, the employers have to be punished, not the workers.
Well... my work employs a lot of migrant workers. Many of whom all have some sort of paperwork that fills out their I9 and passes through e-verify or whatever checks and balances the government has in place.
You really want to cut down on this thing we need to stop allowing people to cross our border illegally.
And yes, employers should be held responsible for hiring undocumented workers. They should be punished heavily.
That's good, we have migrant worker visas for lines of work that rely on migrant workers.
Personally I think with unemployment low, we need to open up more visas to more types of foreign workers in more fields, but..
the lobbyists that employers hire won't start demanding these extra visas be added until some of the employers feel some pain.
Enforce the law, punish the employers, then finally there might be some consensus about changing the law rather than just assuming it doesn't apply to you.
There's a visa for everything...
Stopping in the us to scratch my balls and burp in the grand canyon - we have a specific visa just for that!
(08-08-2019, 01:15 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]There's a visa for everything...
Stopping in the us to scratch my balls and burp in the grand canyon - we have a specific visa just for that!
Ah yes, the good old S2B-urp tourist visa. You can't work under that one, though.
(08-08-2019, 01:55 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-08-2019, 01:15 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]There's a visa for everything...
Stopping in the us to scratch my balls and burp in the grand canyon - we have a specific visa just for that!
Ah yes, the good old S2B-urp tourist visa. You can't work under that one, though.
Nope that's 100% For Pleasure Not Business...
I wonder if our players need a visa to go to Britain and work for that one game - I assume so since the reverse would be true.