Favre never had an awful coach like Gus the Bust.
Favre and Bortles' mindset are the only similarity between the two. Favre had a great release and perhaps the strongest arm the game has ever seen. That overcame a lot of the ills that Blake's elongated throwing motion and wobblers will not allow for.
Bortles is nothing like Favre, let's stop with this crap.
The only similarity is a negative one - the fact that he throws it into coverage and Imis high risk high reward.
Favre did it because he had the strongest arm in the league and wanted to thread the needle. Bortles throws into coverage because he mis reads the defense and makes bad decisions.
I wish they compared him to Favre because of arm strength or accuracy, but no, it's literally the one potentially negative thing about Favres game.
Quote:Of course Farve was on the bench and traded his rookie year. They both had a breakout sophomore year only to regress their 3rd year. They both can throw a ton of tds but both are int prone. <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nfl.com/player/brettfavre/2500606/careerstats'>http://www.nfl.com/player/brettfavre/2500606/careerstats</a>
The pig says to put away the lipstick.
Until the below is fixed. I don't want to hear jack [BAD WORD REMOVED] about Bortles on this offense.
RUSHING STATISTICS
Player Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD
T.J. Yeldon 34 84 2.5 15 1
Chris Ivory 12 14 1.2 4 0
Blake Bortles 8 53 6.6 24 0
Denard Robinson 4 14 3.5 7 0
He's throwing interceptions because he's not getting any dang help from the running game. Once again in back to back weeks he's our leading rusher on offense. He's not Michael Vick, Cam Newton, Randal Cunningham or Steve Young.
When you're leading the team in rushing with 38 yards one week and then with 17 yards the following week. It's screaming you have an imbalanced offense and either the lineman cannot get it done or the coaching can't get it done. Or it's a combination of both.
Everyone wants to dog this poor kid because he's the QB and it's easier to blame him for the lazy fan out there who doesn't understand that it's a team sport and it takes team effort.
He's been the most sacked QB since 2014. We've had the worst or second to worst rushing attack in the NFL since 2013. He's being asked to basically make dang magic out of lunch meat out there.
Either they need to change the scheme to keep the errors limited on him. Or they need to decide to start playing as a balanced offense like most successful teams do. That's on your coaches folks. Not your personnel. He can't do it on his own.
Go back and look at the 90's when this offense was great. What did we have folks? Two bookend tackles in Boselli and Searcy. Do you see that on today's roster? Nope. Hell, if we could just get half of Boselli's talent at LT we'd be okay. We don't have any maulers up front to create a running lane anymore. Even Fred Taylor and Maurice Jones-Drew would struggle behind these lineman.
When you're being asked to throw 50 times a game because you cannot run. It's beyond him. Not every pass is going to be pretty. Peyton Manning didn't throw a tight spiral his whole career. Brett Favre also threw wounded ducks around as well.
My point is that people are nit picking this kid after he just made his 32nd career NFL start in three years. That's officially two full seasons of NFL football. It's called growing pains. He's still 24 years old. Wasn't even suppose to play his rookie year because of his mechanics. But because of the ineptitude of this front office and coaching staff he was thrust into the fire.
Anything is possible when you have the right staff and team to support you. Brees was subpar in San Diego. Palmer struggled in Cincinnati. Eli Manning struggled in New York.
You have to give him time to develop. And he's not going to develop with a coaching staff that's not capable of getting it done. Look at all the successful teams since 2010. The key formula for winning is what? Great defense, ball control with a superb running game and an offense led by a QB who can pick and choose and call his own shots in the passing game thanks to the run game keeping the opposing defense honest.
He's being asked to do too much, once again, for a sorry headcoach. I am willing to bet you that a coach like John Fox, Bruce Arians, Andy Reid, Chip Kelly, Hue Jackson, Pete Carroll, Mike Zimmer and even Jay Gruden would have this team with at least two wins right now with the talent that we have on offense. Especially had they been here since the beginning.
Bortles right now is that backup QB that flashes the few times you see him so we all want him in the game, then when he becomes the starter we all want him as the backup again.
He has bad mechanics, bad decision making and isnt very accurate. I get the no run game and bad O-Line but he still isnt playing well at all.
Quote:Favre and Bortles' mindset are the only similarity between the two. Favre had a great release and perhaps the strongest arm the game has ever seen. That overcame a lot of the ills that Blake's elongated throwing motion and wobblers will not allow for.
Quote:He's throwing interceptions because he's not getting any dang help from the running game. Once again in back to back weeks he's our leading rusher on offense. He's not Michael Vick, Cam Newton, Randal Cunningham or Steve Young.
When you're leading the team in rushing with 38 yards one week and then with 17 yards the following week. It's screaming you have an imbalanced offense and either the lineman cannot get it done or the coaching can't get it done. Or it's a combination of both.
Everyone wants to dog this poor kid because he's the QB and it's easier to blame him for the lazy fan out there who doesn't understand that it's a team sport and it takes team effort.
He's been the most sacked QB since 2014. We've had the worst or second to worst rushing attack in the NFL since 2013. He's being asked to basically make dang magic out of lunch meat out there.
Either they need to change the scheme to keep the errors limited on him. Or they need to decide to start playing as a balanced offense like most successful teams do. That's on your coaches folks. Not your personnel. He can't do it on his own.
Go back and look at the 90's when this offense was great. What did we have folks? Two bookend tackles in Boselli and Searcy. Do you see that on today's roster? Nope. Hell, if we could just get half of Boselli's talent at LT we'd be okay. We don't have any maulers up front to create a running lane anymore. Even Fred Taylor and Maurice Jones-Drew would struggle behind these lineman.
Blake throws interceptions because he has bad decision making, bad accuracy and bad mechanics. With a good team and the right offense around him you can definitely win with him but those flaws will likely remain.
so, Him throwing for all those yards/td's last year and us having two 1,000 yard receivers was just a stroke of luck? Riiiiight.... he sucks....
The coach sucks. No one will thrive under him, and it's as simple as that.
Quote:Of course Farve was on the bench and traded his rookie year. They both had a breakout sophomore year only to regress their 3rd year. They both can throw a ton of tds but both are int prone. http://www.nfl.com/player/brettfavre/250...areerstats
Bortles needs to get a hold of Favre's doctor and get unlimited prescription of pain killers. They know how to R-E-L-A-X in GB
Look I've gotta be honest about blake.
He throws a ton of jump balls to ar15
He does NOT have a strong arm and does NOT throw darts at all. Not even.
He misses WIDE OPEN guys because he locked onto someone.
He makes a ton of bone head decisions.
And he rarely if ever hits a guy in stride.
When's the last time u saw him hit somebody in stride when they're running all out?
He never does. Ever.
It's either just over their head or behind them or in the dirt.
If it weren't for a rob stooping his routes and leaping 20ft into the air Blakes stats would absolutely suck.
This guy can't even hit a giant giraffe 15 yads away in the open field.
I think because he has clearly regressed into playing worse that he ever has that it will take several strong games from him to regain my trust and confidence.
Other teams see this too.
And THAT'S WHY THERE ARE NO RUNNING LANES.
teams have figured this guy out and are killing his strengths. And killing us in the process.
I hereby predict we are drafting a qb next year if there's a decent 2 available.
Look at the Eagles and Wentz.
The Cowboys and Prescott
The broncos and their rookie...
They all have already shown more raw talent and better decision making than Blake ever had...and I fear ever will....
Im not bashing the guy.
It just hurts to see him suck so damn bad.
Which makes us suck again.
Probably leading to a new coach and qv and therefore another year or 2 before we realistically have any chance of consistantly competitive football.
On top of all that.
The entire afc south is horrible with watt now gone. I think 9 and 7 wins it.
And we're probably not gonna win 5 games this year. .it's right there for us to take. And we're not gonna take it
Last year Bortles was attempting to win game.
This season, Bortles is attempting not to lose games.
Bradley has a gunslinger and is attempting to turn him into Alex Smith.
Quote:When's the last time u saw him hit somebody in stride when they're running all out?
He never does. Ever.
He actually has done it with molasses Marcedes a few times this year...perhaps/probably the game is too fast for him since you are right he absolutely doesn't hit anyone who plays at a normal speed in stride nearly often enough.
Blake's throws will never look like Favre's. His approach to the game and gunslinger mentality are very similar however.
Blake's mechanics will likely haunt him on and off for the duration of his career, but they ARE fixable. The right coaches and offseason program should be able to get him to a manageable place with his bad habits.
It will be interesting to see whether a new coach feels good about making the fix, or would rather go with a guy that's more technically sound.
I personally think he's worth fixing.
Please stop with this "we can't run the ball" argument. While I do think it's a detriment, it's nothing more than an excuse when it comes to the way Bortles is playing. We didn't run the ball effectively last year either and many of you wanted to crown him the league MVP. Face it, he's regressed this year. He's not throwing picks because of our non-running abilities. He's throwing picks because he's terribly inaccurate and is making horrible decisions.