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How would ya'll feel if we went WR with our first pick?

Jeudy and Lamb both look like elite talent, and chances are one of them will be there when we pick. If other options are gone, I'd be happy with either of those two.

On the other hand, do we have too many big big needs to justify taking a WR?

Fine by me.

I'm cool with it but I would much rather go Tua/Brown/Whirf/Thomas and then WR in the 20s.

If the QB doesn't have time to get it to them not sure that's a smart move.
The first pick really should be OT or NT.

I'm fine with it as long as Joe Burrow, Derrick Brown, Andrew Thomas and Tristan Wirfs are gone. If WR represents the BAP, then drafting one would be the right move. I certainly don't wanna reach. It's not exactly like we're loaded at WR anyway. I love Chark and Westbrook can be good as well, but that's about it. We could always use another receiver. Lamb and Jeudy appear to be special prospects.

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(12-17-2019, 12:15 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]If the QB doesn't have time to get it to them not sure that's a smart move.
The first pick really should be OT or NT.

What if the top OT's and NT are gone? That is a very likely and probable scenario.

(12-17-2019, 12:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I'm fine with it as long as Joe Burrow, Derrick Brown, Andrew Thomas and Tristan Wirfs are gone. If WR represents the BAP, then drafting one would be the right move. I certainly don't wanna reach. It's not exactly like we're loaded at WR anyway. I love Chark and Westbrook can be good as well, but that's about it. We could always use another receiver. Lamb and Jeudy appear to be special prospects.

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(12-17-2019, 12:15 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]If the QB doesn't have time to get it to them not sure that's a smart move.
The first pick really should be OT or NT.

What if the top OT's and NT are gone? That is a very likely and probable scenario.

McShay said Jeudy is the best route runner he has ever seen in college.

I want elite talent and I don't really care which position is comes from. Chark and Jeudy would offer a ridiculous tandem and if they can grab Leatherwood with their 2nd first rounder? Sign me up.

(12-17-2019, 12:24 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-17-2019, 12:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I'm fine with it as long as Joe Burrow, Derrick Brown, Andrew Thomas and Tristan Wirfs are gone. If WR represents the BAP, then drafting one would be the right move. I certainly don't wanna reach. It's not exactly like we're loaded at WR anyway. I love Chark and Westbrook can be good as well, but that's about it. We could always use another receiver. Lamb and Jeudy appear to be special prospects.

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What if the top OT's and NT are gone? That is a very likely and probable scenario.

McShay said Jeudy is the best route runner he has ever seen in college.

I want elite talent and I don't really care which position is comes from. Chark and Jeudy would offer a ridiculous tandem and if they can grab Leatherwood with their 2nd first rounder? Sign me up.

I'm with you, until you mentioned Leatherwood. I'll pass on him.

(12-17-2019, 12:25 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-17-2019, 12:24 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]McShay said Jeudy is the best route runner he has ever seen in college.

I want elite talent and I don't really care which position is comes from. Chark and Jeudy would offer a ridiculous tandem and if they can grab Leatherwood with their 2nd first rounder? Sign me up.

I'm with you, until you mentioned Leatherwood. I'll pass on him.

It's just for example. I have no idea how good Leatherwood will be but he seems to be a consensus pick near the 20's.

(12-17-2019, 12:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I'm fine with it as long as Joe Burrow, Derrick Brown, Andrew Thomas and Tristan Wirfs are gone. If WR represents the BAP, then drafting one would be the right move. I certainly don't wanna reach. It's not exactly like we're loaded at WR anyway. I love Chark and Westbrook can be good as well, but that's about it. We could always use another receiver. Lamb and Jeudy appear to be special prospects.

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(12-17-2019, 12:15 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]If the QB doesn't have time to get it to them not sure that's a smart move.
The first pick really should be OT or NT.

What if the top OT's and NT are gone? That is a very likely and probable scenario.

Where do we stand with Cam Robinson right now? I can't say I've been studying his play much at all this year. Are we at the point of giving up on him at LT?

I kind of feel like the interior of the line is more of a problem than the interior. I also feel that Cam could be an absolute mauler at LG, so drafting a LT and moving Cam inside could be a win win.

Except it's the jags so it'd probably be a disaster.

Depends on how value shakes out, but I'd much rather see left tackle, nose tackle and MLB prioritized early.

It's a deep class at receiver and it's not a glaring need. I'd be looking for receiver value in the fourth/fifth round but I'll get it if they take one before that.

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(12-17-2019, 12:34 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-17-2019, 12:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I'm fine with it as long as Joe Burrow, Derrick Brown, Andrew Thomas and Tristan Wirfs are gone. If WR represents the BAP, then drafting one would be the right move. I certainly don't wanna reach. It's not exactly like we're loaded at WR anyway. I love Chark and Westbrook can be good as well, but that's about it. We could always use another receiver. Lamb and Jeudy appear to be special prospects.

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What if the top OT's and NT are gone? That is a very likely and probable scenario.

Where do we stand with Cam Robinson right now? I can't say I've been studying his play much at all this year. Are we at the point of giving up on him at LT?

I kind of feel like the interior of the line is more of a problem than the interior. I also feel that Cam could be an absolute mauler at LG, so drafting a LT and moving Cam inside could be a win win.

Except it's the jags so it'd probably be a disaster.

His footwork just hasn't improved enough and the penalties and pressures are piling up too high.
I'd look to upgrade LT and try Cam at guard.

I could see the top ten working out something like this:

1. Bengals - QB Burrow
2. Giants - DE Young
3. Phins - QB Tua
4. Redskins - OT Thomas
5. Lions - CB Okudah
6. Cards - OT Wirfs
7. Jets - WR Jeudy
8. Jags - DT Brown
9. Bolts - QB Herbert
10. Broncos - WR Lamb

To me, at this early stage, it seems like they are the top 10 players in this draft (Herbert being the doubt)... You could make a strong case for the Jags drafting any of them, but Brown would be ideal...

(12-17-2019, 12:34 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-17-2019, 12:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I'm fine with it as long as Joe Burrow, Derrick Brown, Andrew Thomas and Tristan Wirfs are gone. If WR represents the BAP, then drafting one would be the right move. I certainly don't wanna reach. It's not exactly like we're loaded at WR anyway. I love Chark and Westbrook can be good as well, but that's about it. We could always use another receiver. Lamb and Jeudy appear to be special prospects.

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What if the top OT's and NT are gone? That is a very likely and probable scenario.

Where do we stand with Cam Robinson right now? I can't say I've been studying his play much at all this year. Are we at the point of giving up on him at LT?

I kind of feel like the interior of the line is more of a problem than the interior. I also feel that Cam could be an absolute mauler at LG, so drafting a LT and moving Cam inside could be a win win.

Except it's the jags so it'd probably be a disaster.

He is not a good LT. I'm done with him at that position, but I don't know if the team is. I'd either move him to OG or have him compete with Taylor at RT.

(12-17-2019, 01:03 PM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]I could see the top ten working out something like this:

1. Bengals - QB Burrow
2. Giants - DE Young
3. Phins - QB Tua
4. Redskins - OT Thomas
5. Lions - CB Okudah
6. Cards - OT Wirfs
7. Jets - WR Jeudy
8. Jags - DT Brown
9. Bolts - QB Herbert
10. Broncos - WR Lamb

To me, at this early stage, it seems like they are the top 10 players in this draft (Herbert being the doubt)... You could make a strong case for the Jags drafting any of them, but Brown would be ideal...

I currently have things shaking out like this.....

1. Cincinnati- Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
2. N.Y. Giants- Chase Young, DE, Ohio State
3. Miami- Jeff Okudah, CB, Ohio State
4. Washington- Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
5. Detroit- Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
6. Arizona- Derrick Brown, NT, Auburn
7. N.Y. Jets- Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
8. Jacksonville- Isaiah Simmons, OLB, Clemson
9. L.A. Chargers- Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
10. Denver- CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
11. Carolina- Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU
12. Atlanta- A.J. Epenesa, DE, Iowa
13. Oakland- Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama
14. Indianpolis- Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama 
15. Cleveland- Grant Delpit, S, LSU
16. Philadelphia- Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson
17. Tampa Bay- C.J. Henderson, CB, Florida 
18. Oakland (Via Chicago)- Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama
19. Tennessee- Terrell Lewis, OLB, Alabama
20. Jacksonville (Via L.A. Rams)- Austin Jackson, OT, USC
21. Dallas- Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
22. Miami (Via Pittsburgh)- Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma
23. Miami (Via Houston)- Tyler Biadasz, C/OG, Wisconsin
24. Buffalo- Curtis Weaver, DE, Boise State
25. Minnesota- Yetur Gross-Matos, DE, Penn State
26. Kansas City- Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma
27. New England- Albert Okwuebugnum, TE, Missouri
28. Green Bay- DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama
29. New Orleans- Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado
30. San Francisco- Creed Humphrey, C/OG, Oklahoma
31. Seattle- Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama
32. Baltimore- Sage Surratt, WR, Wake Forest

Wills Jr is going top 10.

Anyone want to post who McShay had us taking with the second 1st rounder? I saw he gave us Simmons which is going to be very chalky, but they didn't go past the top 10.

(12-17-2019, 02:22 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Wills Jr is going top 10.

Anyone want to post who McShay had us taking with the second 1st rounder? I saw he gave us Simmons which is going to be very chalky, but they didn't go past the top 10.

Raekown Davis I believe.

And that's with Wirf still on the board.....

(12-17-2019, 02:22 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Wills Jr is going top 10.

Anyone want to post who McShay had us taking with the second 1st rounder? I saw he gave us Simmons which is going to be very chalky, but they didn't go past the top 10.

I don't think Wills is declaring. He has a much better shot to go higher if he stays in school and proves he can play LT in 2020 for Alabama.

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(12-17-2019, 02:23 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-17-2019, 02:22 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Wills Jr is going top 10.

Anyone want to post who McShay had us taking with the second 1st rounder? I saw he gave us Simmons which is going to be very chalky, but they didn't go past the top 10.

Raekown Davis I believe.

And that's with Wirf still on the board.....

Ugh! I hate Raekwon Davis. I think he's the most overrated prospect in the draft. He's not that great against the run and he does absolutely nothing on passing downs.

(12-17-2019, 11:55 AM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ]How would ya'll feel if we went WR with our first pick?

Jeudy and Lamb both look like elite talent, and chances are one of them will be there when we pick. If other options are gone, I'd be happy with either of those two.

On the other hand, do we have too many big big needs to justify taking a WR?

Take the big guys early. Have Julio Jones or AJ Green or Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitz consistently carried a team to deep playoff runs?

DK Metcalf went in the second and is having a great year. Terry McLaurin went even later.

If either are there for the 20th pick, I could see it more, but there should be some DL or OL talent to pick from even at #10, and the talent dropoff is more dramatic at those positions.

(12-17-2019, 12:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I'm fine with it as long as Joe Burrow, Derrick Brown, Andrew Thomas and Tristan Wirfs are gone. If WR represents the BAP, then drafting one would be the right move. I certainly don't wanna reach. It's not exactly like we're loaded at WR anyway. I love Chark and Westbrook can be good as well, but that's about it. We could always use another receiver. Lamb and Jeudy appear to be special prospects.

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(12-17-2019, 12:15 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]If the QB doesn't have time to get it to them not sure that's a smart move.
The first pick really should be OT or NT.

What if the top OT's and NT are gone? That is a very likely and probable scenario.

Sure... if Thomas and Brown are off the board I'd be OK with Jeudy or Lamb.

But what if we're picking 8th and those two WRs are off the board. You OK with Higgins or Ruggs that high? IDK...

Trade down and acquire additional draft picks. With the NFLPA's statement, it would not appear many quality free agents are going to want to play in Jacksonville.

(12-17-2019, 02:46 PM)ATLjag Wrote: [ -> ]Trade down and acquire additional draft picks.  With the NFLPA's statement, it would not appear many quality free agents are going to want to play in Jacksonville.

I doubt that will be the case. The players around the league will know what/who was causing the problem. By the time free agency starts, 'the problem' will be long gone and a new regime in place.

I still don't expect us to be particularly active in FA, but it won't be because of that statement.