(01-28-2020, 01:06 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2020, 12:26 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]There is absolute no reason to keep Swaim. He should be one of the first dudes cut along with Ryan and Lee.
Kind-of depends on Gruden's intent for the position group. Swaim is a solid in-line blocking end that has decent hands and we don't have depth/numbers at the position. So he may be involved in camp if Gruden wants guys with that skillset. I think they can still save over 2 mil by cutting him as late as August if he doesn't meet standards.
I would keep Swaim unless we draft his replacement. I really think Thadeous Moss could be that guy as he is a good inline TE and he can block his backside off and has some pretty decent hands.
(01-28-2020, 12:26 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2020, 12:20 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]I'd still cut Swaim and Cann't. Swaim is really no better than the much cheaper O'Shaughnessey as a receiver, and blocking specialists at TE are not typically hugely expensive. Cann't, well, just cann't.
Checking Campbell's contract, I rescind my previous restructuring comment. I thought he had two years left on his deal, not one, and converting salary to bonus if there's only one year left accomplishes nothing. I might, however, try to extend his deal by a year primarily with the intent of pushing a chunk of his $15M salary into 2021 as bonus amortization. If he doesn't want to touch his contract, fine. Keep him at his current price and decide after the season if he's got enough football left in him to re-sign.
There is absolute no reason to keep Swaim. He should be one of the first dudes cut along with Ryan and Lee.
I thought Swaim was a good signing at the time but had no idea he had hands of stone and ran slower than Doug Marrone wearing ankle weights. Cut him.
(01-28-2020, 02:58 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2020, 01:06 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Kind-of depends on Gruden's intent for the position group. Swaim is a solid in-line blocking end that has decent hands and we don't have depth/numbers at the position. So he may be involved in camp if Gruden wants guys with that skillset. I think they can still save over 2 mil by cutting him as late as August if he doesn't meet standards.
I would keep Swaim unless we draft his replacement.
I think Blank No. 2 would be equally effective at TE.
(01-28-2020, 11:29 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]CUTS and KEEPS
Here's local beat writer Hays Carlyon's pretty reasonable take on it:
https://www.1010xl.com/2020/01/28/the-ja...and-keeps/
@So basically Hays just plagiarized the board.@
I agree with a lot of what he said. I make an offer to Dareus, assuming recovery from the surgery is checking out well. However, I fully understand that if a competitive team makes the same offer, he may pack his bags.
I also agree that Swaim is not a cut on the first day of the league year. don't think his salary is guaranteed, though, so if he doesn't shine in preseason/training camp, he could be an early cut.
Absolutely agree that we can't really afford to cut Bouye, and I don't feel as strongly as some around here that his performance went downhill.
(01-28-2020, 12:46 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2020, 12:39 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]I don't like how Hays keeps Jack as the MLB... we need to draft a true MLB to replace him and let him move over
If Isaiah Williams is there at nine, he'd be about the only player I'd stray from a lineman at that pick for.
....am I the only one who is wary of an undersized guy playing MLB? Not sure I want a LB/S tweener there. He could be the smartest football mind in a generation, but I really don't want a guy who gets Doss'd by every RB who breaks through a gap in the DL.
(01-29-2020, 10:21 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2020, 11:29 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]CUTS and KEEPS
Here's local beat writer Hays Carlyon's pretty reasonable take on it:
https://www.1010xl.com/2020/01/28/the-ja...and-keeps/
@So basically Hays just plagiarized the board.@
I agree with a lot of what he said. I make an offer to Dareus, assuming recovery from the surgery is checking out well. However, I fully understand that if a competitive team makes the same offer, he may pack his bags.
I also agree that Swaim is not a cut on the first day of the league year. don't think his salary is guaranteed, though, so if he doesn't shine in preseason/training camp, he could be an early cut.
Absolutely agree that we can't really afford to cut Bouye, and I don't feel as strongly as some around here that his performance went downhill.
(01-28-2020, 12:46 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]If Isaiah Williams is there at nine, he'd be about the only player I'd stray from a lineman at that pick for.
....am I the only one who is wary of an undersized guy playing MLB? Not sure I want a LB/S tweener there. He could be the smartest football mind in a generation, but I really don't want a guy who gets Doss'd by every RB who breaks through a gap in the DL.
First off, a correction for my dumb [BLEEP] it's Isaiah Simmons, not Williams. My bad. Second, he's not really all that undersized. He's 6'3" 230-ish. Jack is bigger, yeah, but Jack also spends half the game out of position. That's an indictment of Jack, because he's a much better player on the outside. Simmons wouldn't be a Poz back there, but look around the league. Poz-type big MLBs that hit hard and time their 40 with a calendar are quickly going extinct because as tight ends get faster, they're increasingly a liability against the past--just as Poz was towards the end.
Won't lie, I'm also looking at Simmons because of the number of highly-mobile QBs in the AFC right now. Watson, Mahomes, Jackson, just to name a few, especially Watson in the AFC South. If the Jaguars are going to succeed long-term, they'll need someone in the middle who can shadow and keep up with those guys. Simmons is as fast as any of them.
Don't get me wrong, if either Andrew Thomas or Derrick Brown are available here, they'd get my pick over Simmons. If Wirfs, Wills or Kinlaw are here, they'd also have to be considerations, although I'd probably go for Simmons over any of those but Wirfs. Our lines are in bad shape, but if there's a guy out there who can keep Watson and Jackson in the box, you've got to put a premium on that kind of ability in today's AFC.
(01-28-2020, 03:23 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (01-28-2020, 02:58 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]I would keep Swaim unless we draft his replacement.
I think Blank No. 2 would be equally effective at TE.
At least as good as Blank No. 1 played last year.
(01-29-2020, 11:00 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (01-29-2020, 10:21 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]@So basically Hays just plagiarized the board.@
I agree with a lot of what he said. I make an offer to Dareus, assuming recovery from the surgery is checking out well. However, I fully understand that if a competitive team makes the same offer, he may pack his bags.
I also agree that Swaim is not a cut on the first day of the league year. don't think his salary is guaranteed, though, so if he doesn't shine in preseason/training camp, he could be an early cut.
Absolutely agree that we can't really afford to cut Bouye, and I don't feel as strongly as some around here that his performance went downhill.
....am I the only one who is wary of an undersized guy playing MLB? Not sure I want a LB/S tweener there. He could be the smartest football mind in a generation, but I really don't want a guy who gets Doss'd by every RB who breaks through a gap in the DL.
First off, a correction for my dumb [BLEEP] it's Isaiah Simmons, not Williams. My bad. Second, he's not really all that undersized. He's 6'3" 230-ish. Jack is bigger, yeah, but Jack also spends half the game out of position. That's an indictment of Jack, because he's a much better player on the outside. Simmons wouldn't be a Poz back there, but look around the league. Poz-type big MLBs that hit hard and time their 40 with a calendar are quickly going extinct because as tight ends get faster, they're increasingly a liability against the past--just as Poz was towards the end.
Won't lie, I'm also looking at Simmons because of the number of highly-mobile QBs in the AFC right now. Watson, Mahomes, Jackson, just to name a few, especially Watson in the AFC South. If the Jaguars are going to succeed long-term, they'll need someone in the middle who can shadow and keep up with those guys. Simmons is as fast as any of them.
Don't get me wrong, if either Andrew Thomas or Derrick Brown are available here, they'd get my pick over Simmons. If Wirfs, Wills or Kinlaw are here, they'd also have to be considerations, although I'd probably go for Simmons over any of those but Wirfs. Our lines are in bad shape, but if there's a guy out there who can keep Watson and Jackson in the box, you've got to put a premium on that kind of ability in today's AFC.
Yeah, if we do draft Simmons I'd love to see him deployed in different creative ways to try to take away some big part of the oponents offense. Whether that be mobile QBs like you said, or dynamic receiving TEs, or scat backs coming out the backfield, or even a deep passing game... he seems to have the skill set that could effectively neutralize so many different things.
Of course the big question / worry remains, would our coaching staff actually be creative enough to use him in such a way?
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