09-10-2020, 02:00 PM
(09-09-2020, 10:13 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Defense gonna suck
O-line gonna suck
Mediocre running game at best
3-5 wins
Negative 2 wins?
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09-10-2020, 02:00 PM
09-10-2020, 06:40 PM
I am tired of negativity sure but I have eyes and unfortunately this organization hasn't done much to help out winning.
Success can be outside the win column. Seeing players develop, seeing an actual game plan that shows the coaching lines up with film study and actual planning and other things that would possible show an upward trend.
It ia hard when you luck into a winning and/or playoff season and it doesn't look sustainable. 2018 confirmed that the team lucked into once in a decade circumstances that had as much to do with success as anything that was a front office and coaching achievement.
Success can be outside the win column. Seeing players develop, seeing an actual game plan that shows the coaching lines up with film study and actual planning and other things that would possible show an upward trend.
It ia hard when you luck into a winning and/or playoff season and it doesn't look sustainable. 2018 confirmed that the team lucked into once in a decade circumstances that had as much to do with success as anything that was a front office and coaching achievement.
09-10-2020, 07:01 PM
2018 had the oline devastated by injury and a fair amt of other key injuries, or it would have been a better season. We started 4-1 that year and beat the pats. Lets not forget that.
09-11-2020, 07:40 PM
(09-10-2020, 06:40 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ]I am tired of negativity sure but I have eyes and unfortunately this organization hasn't done much to help out winning.
Success can be outside the win column. Seeing players develop, seeing an actual game plan that shows the coaching lines up with film study and actual planning and other things that would possible show an upward trend.
It ia hard when you luck into a winning and/or playoff season and it doesn't look sustainable. 2018 confirmed that the team lucked into once in a decade circumstances that had as much to do with success as anything that was a front office and coaching achievement.
100% Agreed. Fans are tired of what the leadership of this organization has been producing. The 2nd worst record for the decade in the NFL is a crystal-clear example. I will gladly say "you were right" if we somehow produce 7-9 wins this season (which is aiming for mediocrity, but I will absolutely take it at this point). I just don't see that happening. So you can whine about fans being pessimistic, but if you take off your Teal-colored glasses... things don't look very good at the moment. And somehow even appear to be getting WORSE (which is truly unbelievable).
09-12-2020, 12:26 AM
(09-10-2020, 07:01 PM)surfon Wrote: [ -> ]2018 had the oline devastated by injury and a fair amt of other key injuries, or it would have been a better season. We started 4-1 that year and beat the pats. Lets not forget that.
If this were true, we would of seen a better 2019 effort and development. Team regressed on defense in 2018 and didn't prop up a suspect offense.
09-12-2020, 10:14 AM
09-12-2020, 10:38 AM
Pass the Teal Kool Aid please ....I'm in!
go Jags and beat the miserable clots!
go Jags and beat the miserable clots!
09-13-2020, 10:17 AM
(09-12-2020, 12:26 AM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2020, 07:01 PM)surfon Wrote: [ -> ]2018 had the oline devastated by injury and a fair amt of other key injuries, or it would have been a better season. We started 4-1 that year and beat the pats. Lets not forget that.
If this were true, we would of seen a better 2019 effort and development. Team regressed on defense in 2018 and didn't prop up a suspect offense.
So you are saying without all the injuries we still would have had a complete crap season? Dont buy it. The d gave up once they realized the o just couldnt do it with all the injuries. 2019 was an anomoly season with the foles injury first 10 plays.
09-13-2020, 11:00 AM
(09-13-2020, 10:17 AM)surfon Wrote: [ -> ](09-12-2020, 12:26 AM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ]If this were true, we would of seen a better 2019 effort and development. Team regressed on defense in 2018 and didn't prop up a suspect offense.
So you are saying without all the injuries we still would have had a complete crap season? Dont buy it. The d gave up once they realized the o just couldnt do it with all the injuries. 2019 was an anomoly season with the foles injury first 10 plays.
No it is somewhere in between that. It isn't black and white. The front office and coaching is and has been off. We will see soon enough if it was all Coughlin's fault.
You can tell when a team is developing and poised for success and we haven't seen it.
09-13-2020, 12:43 PM
2nd worst team of the decade.
yoU guYs ArE toO neGAtivE
yoU guYs ArE toO neGAtivE
09-13-2020, 12:47 PM
Omaha is generally trolling the heck out of the forum. Have you turned into the straight man now?
09-13-2020, 12:47 PM
Is it pessimism or commenting on reality......
09-13-2020, 04:17 PM
(09-09-2020, 10:13 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Defense gonna suck
O-line gonna suck
Mediocre running game at best
3-5 wins
Defense Crushed
O-line held up
Running game was far more than adequate
Already 20% of the way to 5
09-13-2020, 04:25 PM
(09-13-2020, 04:17 PM)Norman Mushari Wrote: [ -> ](09-09-2020, 10:13 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Defense gonna suck
O-line gonna suck
Mediocre running game at best
3-5 wins
Defense Crushed LOL NO
O-line held up They were average
Running game was far more than adequate Robinson seems like the real deal sure, seems like I was wrong on this one
Already 20% of the way to 5 I need to see some more games against other teams but at least for now, sure, they look like they can win more than five, I'd say 7-10.
09-13-2020, 04:31 PM
(09-13-2020, 04:25 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ](09-13-2020, 04:17 PM)Norman Mushari Wrote: [ -> ]Defense Crushed LOL NO
O-line held up They were average
Running game was far more than adequate Robinson seems like the real deal sure, seems like I was wrong on this one
Already 20% of the way to 5 I need to see some more games against other teams but at least for now, sure, they look like they can win more than five, I'd say 7-10.
Did they need a 3rd int?
Like I said. They held up
You were wrong.
On your way to being wrong.
On a tired a pessimist thread
09-14-2020, 10:39 AM
"If you expect the worst, you will always be satisfied." -- Aristotle's dad
What the OP failed to take into account is that by maintaining a healthy level of pessimism around the board, fans will keep coming back in droves. Heck, nobody drew fans on Sunday like the Jaguars did. Maybe the other fanbases should take a chapter out of Duval's book and start planning for the sky to fall. Unless you're in a dome, then prepare for the ginormous videoboards to come crashing down, I guess.
What the OP failed to take into account is that by maintaining a healthy level of pessimism around the board, fans will keep coming back in droves. Heck, nobody drew fans on Sunday like the Jaguars did. Maybe the other fanbases should take a chapter out of Duval's book and start planning for the sky to fall. Unless you're in a dome, then prepare for the ginormous videoboards to come crashing down, I guess.
10-04-2020, 04:21 PM
(09-13-2020, 04:31 PM)Norman Mushari Wrote: [ -> ]Did they need a 3rd int?
Like I said. They held up
You were wrong.
On your way to being wrong.
On a tired a pessimist thread
Hey buddy! anything to add? you know, since you were so eager to call me out after week 1...
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