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(12-26-2020, 05:12 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-26-2020, 04:55 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]So what do we do when it is exploited in the sporting world?  It's only a matter of time, especially in professional sports, which is where there the money is.  Can any male who "identifies" as a female compete in women's golf or tennis?  Do we petition the IOC to abolish all gender specific events?  

Where do you draw the line?

I doubt this is an elaborate ruse by a syndicate just to trick the world in allowing this change just so men can compete in woman's sport.

Transgender participation is sports is already an issue....so it's not really creating a new problem.

Who said anything about a syndicate?  What happens when one guy, already on the PGA or USTA men's tour, suddenly wants to play in the women's events where he has a better chance at the prize money?

No, it's not necessarily creating a new problem, but it certainly isn't helping fix to an existing one either.  Again, where do you draw the line, or is there to be no line ever, anywhere?

(12-25-2020, 09:26 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]Why does it matter and why are people getting their knickers in a twist.  Why does it matter if Elliot Page wants to be recognised as a male from birth?

So long as this isn't exploited in the sporting world, it simply doesn't matter.

What about being exploited in the "woke" world that we are becoming?  You know, where there are quotas.
Just because a male with obvious mental health issues "identifies" as a female doesn't give him the right to fill a female quota (being enforced by liberals).
The key thing that liberals like you are looking at is the "diversity" of Biden's staff.  Heck, he even said that his running-mate would be a "woman" and doubled-down by saying that it would be a "woman of color".  It's all about identity politics and "political correctness".
I don't care what he calls himself, Bradly (Chelsea) Manning is still a male.  Bruce (Catlin) Jenner is still a male.
Rather than deal the with the issue of mental illness (which these individuals as well as many others like them deal with) we coddle them.

I'm sure the medical profession wouldn't support this either.

(12-24-2020, 11:09 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-24-2020, 10:55 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Take the rest of the year off captivating.

Look, I'm completely sympathetic to people with mental illness, but that stops long before the current Affirmation and Celebration Therapy going on these days. People who are sick should be helped to get well, not told that their illness is wonderful. The whole of lefty culture is nothing but the glorification of make believe and people are literally dying because of their lies.

Completely agree. Don't feed into people's mental illness. Try to help them realize that they are sick and encourage them to seek treatment and get better. Where is this ever gonna end? Are we supposed to someday celebrate pedophilia or zoophilia? Everything that was once frowned upon is now being celebrated. I don't understand it and I never will. If that makes me politically incorrect, so be it.

(12-26-2020, 08:18 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-24-2020, 11:09 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Look, I'm completely sympathetic to people with mental illness, but that stops long before the current Affirmation and Celebration Therapy going on these days. People who are sick should be helped to get well, not told that their illness is wonderful. The whole of lefty culture is nothing but the glorification of make believe and people are literally dying because of their lies.

Completely agree. Don't feed into people's mental illness. Try to help them realize that they are sick and encourage them to seek treatment and get better. Where is this ever gonna end? Are we supposed to someday celebrate pedophilia or zoophilia? Everything that was once frowned upon is now being celebrated. I don't understand it and I never will. If that makes me politically incorrect, so be it.

The issue is that people don't see this as a sickness that needs to be treated and the MSM just makes it worse.

(12-26-2020, 06:07 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-25-2020, 09:26 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]Why does it matter and why are people getting their knickers in a twist.  Why does it matter if Elliot Page wants to be recognised as a male from birth?

So long as this isn't exploited in the sporting world, it simply doesn't matter.

What about being exploited in the "woke" world that we are becoming?  You know, where there are quotas.
Just because a male with obvious mental health issues "identifies" as a female doesn't give him the right to fill a female quota (being enforced by liberals).
The key thing that liberals like you are looking at is the "diversity" of Biden's staff.  Heck, he even said that his running-mate would be a "woman" and doubled-down by saying that it would be a "woman of color".  It's all about identity politics and "political correctness".
I don't care what he calls himself, Bradly (Chelsea) Manning is still a male.  Bruce (Catlin) Jenner is still a male.
Rather than deal the with the issue of mental illness (which these individuals as well as many others like them deal with) we coddle them.

I don't agree with quotas.  You pick the best person for the role / job period, not what Biden has done, and not what Trump has done either.

I don't agree with this being a mental illness that can be fixed.  Homosexuality was consider a mental disorder up until 1973.  Why repeat the same mistake and classify this issue as a mental illness.

(12-26-2020, 08:24 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-26-2020, 06:07 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]What about being exploited in the "woke" world that we are becoming?  You know, where there are quotas.
Just because a male with obvious mental health issues "identifies" as a female doesn't give him the right to fill a female quota (being enforced by liberals).
The key thing that liberals like you are looking at is the "diversity" of Biden's staff.  Heck, he even said that his running-mate would be a "woman" and doubled-down by saying that it would be a "woman of color".  It's all about identity politics and "political correctness".
I don't care what he calls himself, Bradly (Chelsea) Manning is still a male.  Bruce (Catlin) Jenner is still a male.
Rather than deal the with the issue of mental illness (which these individuals as well as many others like them deal with) we coddle them.

I don't agree with quotas.  You pick the best person for the role / job period, not what Biden has done, and not what Trump has done either.

I don't agree with this being a mental illness that can be fixed.  Homosexuality was consider a mental disorder up until 1973.  Why repeat the same mistake and classify this issue as a mental illness.

Homosexuality and picking your gender aren't even in the same galaxy.

(12-26-2020, 08:26 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-26-2020, 08:24 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]I don't agree with quotas.  You pick the best person for the role / job period, not what Biden has done, and not what Trump has done either.

I don't agree with this being a mental illness that can be fixed.  Homosexuality was consider a mental disorder up until 1973.  Why repeat the same mistake and classify this issue as a mental illness.

Homosexuality and picking your gender aren't even in the same galaxy.

Doesn't stop you claiming it's a sickness.

A birth certificate is a historical record that documents a child being born at a certain time and place.  It identifies the child by given name, parents names and gender, based on physical attributes that distinguish male and female sexes.  Whatever transformation an individual may undergo or however he or she chooses to "identify" at a later point in life is irrelevant.  The actual facts of the birth are impossible to change and the original certificate should survive intact.

I’ve got a wiener but I want a VaJayJay.  So, I’ll mark VaJayJay.  So now I’m a proud Weiner holding vajayjay lady!  I’ll attempt to have sexual intercourse with real men having a real wiener even though I can’t actually receive it.  Unless I go through surgery and have a big wide dry open gaping hole.  Then I can be a real woman! Without the ovaries (and wet pocket).  But men can still get war wounds trying to [BLEEP] me unless tons of lube is involved.  Man( or shall I say WOMAN!) katelyn Jenner is a REAL AMERICAN HERO man lady!

(12-26-2020, 08:24 PM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-26-2020, 06:07 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]What about being exploited in the "woke" world that we are becoming?  You know, where there are quotas.
Just because a male with obvious mental health issues "identifies" as a female doesn't give him the right to fill a female quota (being enforced by liberals).
The key thing that liberals like you are looking at is the "diversity" of Biden's staff.  Heck, he even said that his running-mate would be a "woman" and doubled-down by saying that it would be a "woman of color".  It's all about identity politics and "political correctness".
I don't care what he calls himself, Bradly (Chelsea) Manning is still a male.  Bruce (Catlin) Jenner is still a male.
Rather than deal the with the issue of mental illness (which these individuals as well as many others like them deal with) we coddle them.

I don't agree with quotas.  You pick the best person for the role / job period, not what Biden has done, and not what Trump has done either.

I don't agree with this being a mental illness that can be fixed.  Homosexuality was consider a mental disorder up until 1973.  Why repeat the same mistake and classify this issue as a mental illness.

Because many of us still think it is a mental illness.

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(12-26-2020, 09:20 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]I’ve got a wiener but I want a VaJayJay.  So, I’ll mark VaJayJay.  So now I’m a proud Weiner holding vajayjay lady!  I’ll attempt to have sexual intercourse with real men having a real wiener even though I can’t actually receive it.  Unless I go through surgery and have a big wide dry open gaping hole.  Then I can be a real woman! Without the ovaries (and wet pocket).  But men can still get war wounds trying to [BLEEP] me unless tons of lube is involved.  Man( or shall I say WOMAN!) katelyn Jenner is a REAL AMERICAN HERO man lady!

(12-26-2020, 09:20 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]I’ve got a wiener but I want a VaJayJay.  So, I’ll mark VaJayJay.  So now I’m a proud Weiner holding vajayjay lady!  I’ll attempt to have sexual intercourse with real men having a real wiener even though I can’t actually receive it.  Unless I go through surgery and have a big wide dry open gaping hole.  Then I can be a real woman! Without the ovaries (and wet pocket).  But men can still get war wounds trying to [BLEEP] me unless tons of lube is involved.  Man( or shall I say WOMAN!) katelyn Jenner is a REAL AMERICAN HERO man lady!

I was both entertained and repulsed simultaneously by this..... description. I hope I don't dream about this crap tonight. Lol.

I'm sure anyone with a daughter who wants to play sports and possibly use sports as a vehicle for a college scholarship wouldn't invent ways to defend this insanity.

(12-26-2020, 05:57 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

I was glad to see some sports try and put a stop on transgender females competing against women. (like rugby) It is definitely an unfair advantage because of the physical differences between women and men. There are reasons why women sports were created in the first place to allow women a place and opportunity to compete in a fair manner against each other. I remember seeing a story about transgender cyclist who had competed against women in some races and had won. And female competitors were understandably and rightfully upset about that. When people pointed out to the transgender cyclist how it was an unfair advantage of them competing against women and how they should compete against men, they tried to act like that wouldn't be fair. The truth is they probably couldn't cut it against regular men (and have even lost some competitions against women) and are taking opportunities away from women.

I've also heard of another stories of people who were born male and are transgender physically hurting smaller biological women in competitions. That type of thing needs to be prevented. 

And I also agree with those that say this stuff is mental illness. It's gotten really ridiculous and out of hand.

(12-26-2020, 10:01 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-26-2020, 09:20 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]I’ve got a wiener but I want a VaJayJay.  So, I’ll mark VaJayJay.  So now I’m a proud Weiner holding vajayjay lady!  I’ll attempt to have sexual intercourse with real men having a real wiener even though I can’t actually receive it.  Unless I go through surgery and have a big wide dry open gaping hole.  Then I can be a real woman! Without the ovaries (and wet pocket).  But men can still get war wounds trying to [BLEEP] me unless tons of lube is involved.  Man( or shall I say WOMAN!) katelyn Jenner is a REAL AMERICAN HERO man lady!

I was both entertained and repulsed simultaneously by this..... description. I hope I don't dream about this crap tonight. Lol.

You’re welcome?

(12-26-2020, 08:55 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]A birth certificate is a historical record that documents a child being born at a certain time and place.  It identifies the child by given name, parents names and gender, based on physical attributes that distinguish male and female sexes.  Whatever transformation an individual may undergo or however he or she chooses to "identify" at a later point in life is irrelevant.  The actual facts of the birth are impossible to change and the original certificate should survive intact.

Sensible post. Well said.

(12-26-2020, 10:09 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

I can’t find a gif from “Why Him?”   But that’s pretty much it

(12-26-2020, 10:09 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-26-2020, 10:01 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I was both entertained and repulsed simultaneously by this..... description. I hope I don't dream about this crap tonight. Lol.

You’re welcome?

Well I didn't dream about it so you're off the hook.  Otherwise we would have a problem. 

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(12-26-2020, 08:55 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]A birth certificate is a historical record that documents a child being born at a certain time and place.  It identifies the child by given name, parents names and gender, based on physical attributes that distinguish male and female sexes.  Whatever transformation an individual may undergo or however he or she chooses to "identify" at a later point in life is irrelevant.  The actual facts of the birth are impossible to change and the original certificate should survive intact.

Exactly this. 1000%.