Jacksonville Jaguars Fan Forums

Quote:Well who out there is doing it better?

 

real journalists who actually travel and speak to actual sources. not secondhand, third-hand regurgitation of misleading information

Quote:real journalists who actually travel and speak to actual sources. not secondhand, third-hand regurgitation of misleading information

The objective evidence is usually cited from said journalists.

Quote:The objective evidence is usually cited from said journalists.

 

go read snopes bud. nobody is stopping you.

Quote:go read snopes bud. nobody is stopping you.

There is a whole more to do than just read snopes! no one has ever said Snopes doesn't need fact checked as well.


All I'm saying is if you can find objective evidence that supports the claim then it doesn't matter who the author is.

Quote:Well who out there is doing it better? Honestly don't use snopes except to refute dumb crap. Like Obama isn't American or some other [BLEEP] statement. Research easily makes people in that camp look like idiots.

 

It still doesn't stop people from posting dumb crap, and using the excuse that Snopes is just wrong - sometimes.

Quote:real journalists who actually travel and speak to actual sources. not secondhand, third-hand regurgitation of misleading information

Who are the real journalists you trust completely?

Quote:Who are the real journalists you trust completely?

Speaking for myself, there's no one I trust completely.

Quote:Speaking for myself, there's no one I trust completely.

 

good answer

Quote:Speaking for myself, there's no one I trust completely.

 

Quote:good answer

So to come full circle, you don't think anyone is (or can be) doing what Snopes does better?

Quote:So to come full circle, you don't think anyone is (or can be) doing what Snopes does better?

 

i dont think Snopes is doing anybody a service, like i said. it's a debunking site, which i dont like.  debunkers have a built-in bias to debunk whatever they are talking about.

 

the woman who runs the website thewallwillfall.org is somebody i would consider a true journalist.

Quote:Left wingers have an issue with people knowing the truth. They want to control knowledge so people can only think what they want them to think.





Did I do that right? Since we're making sweeping generalizations, I want to make sure I'm doing it correctly.

The truth like Brietbart and fix news?

Quote:So to come full circle, you don't think anyone is (or can be) doing what Snopes does better?

No one can do what Snopes does without bias. Theirs just happens to be to the left.

Quote:No one can do what Snopes does without bias. Theirs just happens to be to the left.

 

This, and people fail to understand this. Snopes isn't fact checking objective questions. It isn't an algorithim they are solving. Especially when it comes to politics, it isn't a 1 or a 0. Snopes is naturally going to have bias. Just like Fox News, Breitbart, CNN, Politifact, and other news outlets.

 

My main issue is when websites LIKE Snopes and Politifact act like their poop don't stank and they convince the public they are neutral.

Quote:i dont think Snopes is doing anybody a service, like i said. it's a debunking site, which i dont like. debunkers have a built-in bias to debunk whatever they are talking about.


the woman who runs the website thewallwillfall.org is somebody i would consider a true journalist.

Interesting reading, but she seems pretty focused on a narrow field of expertise. I enjoyed Al Jazeera America while it lasted as an outlet for a broader scope of topics like the news USED to be like. It was a nice escape from the usual suspects.

Quote:This, and people fail to understand this. Snopes isn't fact checking objective questions. It isn't an algorithim they are solving. Especially when it comes to politics, it isn't a 1 or a 0. Snopes is naturally going to have bias. Just like Fox News, Breitbart, CNN, Politifact, and other news outlets.

 

My main issue is when websites LIKE Snopes and Politifact act like their poop don't stank and they convince the public they are neutral.

 

Exactly.  I would go further to say that just because a website like snopes or politifact says something, it isn't so.  However, people buy into it.

 

Most people refuse to understand logic (1/0, true/false, high/low, etc.).

Quote:The truth like Brietbart and fix news?

They lean right, so they must be untruthful, and of course the only ones that are, right?