At this time individuals who have received a COVID-19 vaccine are not able to donate convalescent plasma with the Red Cross. The Red Cross is working as quickly as possible to evaluate this change – as it may involve complex system updates. Please know, the Red Cross is committed to building a readily available inventory of convalescent plasma to ensure patients battling COVID-19 have all treatment options available to them.
- American Red Cross
If you have had covid and not been vaccinated (like me) your plasma is in high demand right now.
(05-20-2021, 11:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm...why?
Because the vaccine kills the antibodies
I guess I have gold running through my veins..
(05-20-2021, 11:22 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I guess I have gold running through my veins..
that's what I was thinking.
"The FDA explains that the reasoning behind their guidance is to “ensure that COVID-19 convalescent plasma collected from donors contains antibodies directly related to their immune responses to SARS-CoV2 infection” rather than antibodies formed following vaccination."
https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...SL1N2MR1HU
This only applies to people who have previously had Covid, if you have not had it you do not have Convalescent Plasma. If you have then you can donate CP unless you've been subsequently vaccinated. Donations of regular plasma can still come from anyone who qualifies to donate blood. And this guidance is from February, so it's really old news.
So if the vaccine is killing antibodies that can fight covid, then why would anyone get the vaccine? Unless they were lied to. This would also explain why vaccinated people are still getting covid. So why get the vaccine? Am I missing something here?
(05-20-2021, 11:44 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]So if the vaccine is killing antibodies that can fight covid, then why would anyone get the vaccine? Unless they were lied to. This would also explain why vaccinated people are still getting covid. So why get the vaccine? Am I missing something here?
Yes, that there's no evidence of your first sentence. Everything after that is unfounded.
(05-20-2021, 11:44 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]So if the vaccine is killing antibodies that can fight covid, then why would anyone get the vaccine? Unless they were lied to. This would also explain why vaccinated people are still getting covid. So why get the vaccine? Am I missing something here?
I think the point of the vax is to lessen the effects of the virus if you get it, just like the flu. Not eliminate it.
On the other hand, 99.4% of people who get the virus hardly get sick or are asymptomatic so your question of why get the vaccine is absolutely a valid one.
(05-21-2021, 07:57 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-20-2021, 11:44 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]So if the vaccine is killing antibodies that can fight covid, then why would anyone get the vaccine? Unless they were lied to. This would also explain why vaccinated people are still getting covid. So why get the vaccine? Am I missing something here?
I think the point of the vax is to lessen the effects of the virus if you get it, just like the flu. Not eliminate it.
On the other hand, 99.4% of people who get the virus hardly get sick or are asymptomatic so your question of why get the vaccine is absolutely a valid one.
The Flu Shot eliminates the flu in 60% of adults. For those who still catch the flu the vaccine is shown to lessen the severity of the symptoms. The point of the vaccine is to prevent it, not lessen the symptoms, that's an ancillary effect. And you get the vaccine because humans are disgusting disease vectors who are passing around a preventable virus that's killed 2% of the people who become ill from it.
(05-21-2021, 08:29 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-21-2021, 07:57 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]I think the point of the vax is to lessen the effects of the virus if you get it, just like the flu. Not eliminate it.
On the other hand, 99.4% of people who get the virus hardly get sick or are asymptomatic so your question of why get the vaccine is absolutely a valid one.
The Flu Shot eliminates the flu in 60% of adults. For those who still catch the flu the vaccine is shown to lessen the severity of the symptoms. The point of the vaccine is to prevent it, not lessen the symptoms, that's an ancillary effect. And you get the vaccine because humans are disgusting disease vectors who are passing around a preventable virus that's killed 2% of the people who become ill from it.
The real efficacy rates are coming out now and they around 1% or less. The real rate takes the 99%,98%,etc rates and then gets real % of people that are now helped by the vaccine versus everyone that would have been fine on their own.
This was something I was wondering myself. I'd like to see the data that supports that, though.
(05-21-2021, 02:46 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]This was something I was wondering myself. I'd like to see the data that supports that, though.
I'll try to find the link again and hopefully find something backing it up since anyone can write a paper and publish it.
Moderna and J&J were around 1.2% and Pfizer was lowest around .8%
This is pretty common practice in the pharmaceutical industry. Numbers and language can be easily manipulated to mislead. Still, I would like to see the study before I believe anything. Information these days is hard to trust.
While that may be true with infection severity, I don't see how it could affect the rate of spread.
(05-21-2021, 04:17 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]This is pretty common practice in the pharmaceutical industry. Numbers and language can be easily manipulated to mislead. Still, I would like to see the study before I believe anything. Information these days is hard to trust.
While that may be true with infection severity, I don't see how it could affect the rate of spread.
When I was a kid I was big into the Metal Gear franchise of video games... and the old saying Knowledge is Power was challenged in it.... they said, as early as the 2000s, it's not information or knowledge that is power, but the control of information that makes power.
Hideo Kojima may be a prophet.
Why does a magnet stick to the vaccination site on your arm? A friend confirmed this. Was the microchip not put deep enough?
I refuse to get the “jab”. I don’t trust the government or the people pushing it. I am not a sheep
(05-21-2021, 04:21 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Why does a magnet stick to the vaccination site on your arm? A friend confirmed this. Was the microchip not put deep enough?
Since when do magnets attract silicone? You're mixing your conspiracy theories.
(05-21-2021, 05:26 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-21-2021, 04:21 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Why does a magnet stick to the vaccination site on your arm? A friend confirmed this. Was the microchip not put deep enough?
Since when do magnets attract silicone? You're mixing your conspiracy theories.
My buddy literally sent me a picture of a magnet sticking to his arm. Said it happens to wife as well. Just curious what is causing this in some people.
(05-21-2021, 05:30 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-21-2021, 05:26 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Since when do magnets attract silicone? You're mixing your conspiracy theories.
My buddy literally sent me a picture of a magnet sticking to his arm. Said it happens to wife as well. Just curious what is causing this in some people.
I've seen videos of people sticking magnets up to their arms after the vaccine. Don't know what it's about.