(06-29-2021, 09:44 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]So why was she protesting? Why is not one talking about that?
It really wasn't a planned protest on her part -- it was impromptu disgust at the thought of standing there with the Anthem playing (as is the long tradition in all things Olympic).
Aftwards, she said she was "pissed" and said ""But I don't really want to talk about the anthem because that's not important. The anthem doesn't speak for me. It never has.''
So it was just more of a total expression of how she feels about the country, and always has, not a designed statement.
(06-29-2021, 10:21 AM)Race Bannon Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2021, 09:44 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]So why was she protesting? Why is not one talking about that?
It really wasn't a planned protest on her part -- it was impromptu disgust at the thought of standing there with the Anthem playing (as is the long tradition in all things Olympic).
Aftwards, she said she was "pissed" and said ""But I don't really want to talk about the anthem because that's not important. The anthem doesn't speak for me. It never has.''
So it was just more of a total expression of how she feels about the country, and always has, not a designed statement.
Which begs the question, why represent a country you so loathe? She obviously hates America, so if she wants to compete and she is good, I am sure another country would let her represent them.
The Tokyo Olympics have gotten out in front of it by saying no athletes will be punished for demonstrations of disrespect or non-participation in anthems.
I'm not sure that's wise, as it could cause international incidents if athletes start doing things during other countries' anthems. There's all sorts of combos involving China, Iran, Israel, Middle-Eastern countries, the Koreas, etc. that could spark an incident.
But for the most part, I think it's mostly an American problem. Because our country has been the Greatest Country for so long, most of this wokism was released into the matrix to try to take down America. Other nations won't allow someone to simultaneous compete for their country and hate it at the same time.
The odd thing is, we're so strong that we can take it. Everybody still knows the facts. We're like the Dark Knight to the world's Gotham.
(06-29-2021, 10:27 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2021, 10:21 AM)Race Bannon Wrote: [ -> ]It really wasn't a planned protest on her part -- it was impromptu disgust at the thought of standing there with the Anthem playing (as is the long tradition in all things Olympic).
Aftwards, she said she was "pissed" and said ""But I don't really want to talk about the anthem because that's not important. The anthem doesn't speak for me. It never has.''
So it was just more of a total expression of how she feels about the country, and always has, not a designed statement.
Which begs the question, why represent a country you so loathe? She obviously hates America, so if she wants to compete and she is good, I am sure another country would let her represent them.
I try to have empathy, to understand someone's perspective even if I disagree with it. But this is one where I cannot answer the rhetorical question. I truly don't get it.
I guess money or fame? There is no pro hammer throwing so you've pretty much got to compete for your country to try to make a go of it.
"Berry will go to Tokyo to represent the United States, have the chance to win a gold medal. And if that happens, they’ll play the National Anthem again — and Berry will likely disrespect it again.
Why doesn’t she compete for another country? There are plenty of nations that take freelance Olympians for a chance at glory.
Because she doesn’t want to. She wants to take all the opportunities the United States gives her, and pretend like it happened despite of, not because of, where she was born. Why? Because it’s all about her.
It’s all a con and Berry is just the latest example of it.'
https://nypost.com/2021/06/27/olympian-m...its-a-con/
(06-29-2021, 10:46 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]"Berry will go to Tokyo to represent the United States, have the chance to win a gold medal. And if that happens, they’ll play the National Anthem again — and Berry will likely disrespect it again.
Why doesn’t she compete for another country? There are plenty of nations that take freelance Olympians for a chance at glory.
Because she doesn’t want to. She wants to take all the opportunities the United States gives her, and pretend like it happened despite of, not because of, where she was born. Why? Because it’s all about her.
It’s all a con and Berry is just the latest example of it.'
https://nypost.com/2021/06/27/olympian-m...its-a-con/
Agreed --- I think most of these America-haters don't really like another country more. They don't intend to leave this country, they intend to take it over. The new power base is a coalition of ruling whites that go along with the Woke religion (of course not confessing their own sins, but constantly confessing the sins of others), and preside over a majority voting bloc that has been convinced each member is an oppressed minority of some sort (broadly defined).
(06-29-2021, 12:02 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Wokeness is consuming itself. It’s only a matter of time before people start suffering from woke fatigue.
https://www.newsweek.com/scbwi-diversity...st-1605118
So are people now going to get canceled for not saying Blue Lives Matter or All Lives Matter when talking about Black Lives Matter?
(06-29-2021, 12:20 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2021, 12:02 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Wokeness is consuming itself. It’s only a matter of time before people start suffering from woke fatigue.
https://www.newsweek.com/scbwi-diversity...st-1605118
So are people now going to get canceled for not saying Blue Lives Matter or All Lives Matter when talking about Black Lives Matter?
I believe BLM is sacred, but that’s uncertain. The rules of wokeness change constantly.
(06-29-2021, 01:57 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (06-28-2021, 09:20 PM)Hard_Eight Wrote: [ -> ]I believe that anyone who is ashamed of being from the country they represent, should be sent home.
An absolute disgrace.
Agreed. If this was any other sports event and people want to protest, whatever, but these are the Olympic Trials. This is a whole different ballgame. You are there to represent this country and if you throw shade at the nation you represent on such a grand stage, you have no business being there. Why even participate in the U.S. Olympic trials if you think it's so bad here? Olympic rules are pretty lax when it comes to which country you can represent. Just go back in your family tree and represent some country your ancestors were from. I've seen that done several times. As a U.S. citizen, I don't want anyone representing us that behaves like they hate our country. They can go somewhere else.
(06-29-2021, 10:27 AM)Race Bannon Wrote: [ -> ]The Tokyo Olympics have gotten out in front of it by saying no athletes will be punished for demonstrations of disrespect or non-participation in anthems.
I'm not sure that's wise, as it could cause international incidents if athletes start doing things during other countries' anthems. There's all sorts of combos involving China, Iran, Israel, Middle-Eastern countries, the Koreas, etc. that could spark an incident.
But for the most part, I think it's mostly an American problem. Because our country has been the Greatest Country for so long, most of this wokism was released into the matrix to try to take down America. Other nations won't allow someone to simultaneous compete for their country and hate it at the same time.
The odd thing is, we're so strong that we can take it. Everybody still knows the facts. We're like the Dark Knight to the world's Gotham.
It definitely is a bit of a different ballgame now that this type of protesting is being done in regards to the Olympics. When Colin Kaepernick first started getting attention regarding the anthem in 2016 that was right after the the Rio Olympics had ended. So we didn't really deal with that issue arising in the Olympics. But now five years later, it could become an issue in this global event. I do wonder how other countries will respond/view US athletes that may do this. And if any of them will try to do their own protest if they disagree with certain things that are going on in their countries. (And if so what potential ramifications that could have.)
And this is a bit different than protesting the anthem here in America, at various sporting events. You're not predominantly representing the USA if you're protesting the anthem during an NFL game or a WNBA game. But you are literally representing America in the Olympics, so I can see how this issue could ruffle even more feathers.
(06-29-2021, 08:37 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2021, 08:28 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Seems out of place given the direction that our country has gone over the past 5 months.
What happened to that thread you started yesterday with the base64 encoded string?
I tried to insert smaller pics to see both on 1 screen then I had to join a work call so when the encoded string popped up I just deleted so i could do it right when I had the time. I'll repost the "new gender pronouns" concept tomorrow. Definitely enlightening to say the least
(06-29-2021, 10:01 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2021, 09:51 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Are you denying that POC have suffered discrimination? They feel this is a turning point in American society, and they’re correct. Their problem is using this momentum as a nexus to justify more hate. I understand the frustration and resentment, but they’re overplaying their hand. It’ll burn itself out eventually.
I have experienced discrimination. Everyone has, its not institutionalized nor is it widespread. And it hasn't been for a long time. I AM OVER IT!!!!
Racism is 100% institutionalized. Hell even the NFL was giving black players lower starting scores for mental aptitude just simply because they were black. Which led to many of their claims being denied for brain trauma after their career was over.
(06-29-2021, 06:42 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2021, 10:01 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]I have experienced discrimination. Everyone has, its not institutionalized nor is it widespread. And it hasn't been for a long time. I AM OVER IT!!!!
Racism is 100% institutionalized. Hell even the NFL was giving black players lower starting scores for mental aptitude just simply because they were black. Which led to many of their claims being denied for brain trauma after their career was over.
The other option resulted in them testing out as impaired before they ever took a snap. Seriously.