Unprecedented Dishonor: UK Holds Biden in Contempt for 'Shameful' and 'Catastrophic' Afghanistan Withdrawal
President Biden’s mishandling of the Afghanistan withdrawal may yet prove to be the defining stretch of his administration.
https://www.westernjournal.com/unprecede...=topweekly
Someone should. We likely won't see anything in the form of holding him accountable in this country.
The resolution holds Trump's actions in contempt as well.
Do you even know what Trump's deal with the Taliban and the Afghan government was? It was with the Taliban and the Afghan government and there were conditions that were to be met that would have insured a major cluster of this magnitude wouldn't have happened. The Biden administration abandoned both the timeline and conditional aspects of the deal, the Taliban took advantage of it and now there is what there is.
(08-29-2021, 12:02 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Do you even know what Trump's deal with the Taliban and the Afghan government was? It was with the Taliban and the Afghan government and there were conditions that were to be met that would have insured a major cluster of this magnitude wouldn't have happened. The Biden administration abandoned both the timeline and conditional aspects of the deal, the Taliban took advantage of it and now there is what there is.
Trump never made a deal with the Afghan government, to my knowledge.
Trump's deal with the Taliban required them to make peace with the Afghan government, or at least assumed they would have by now. That aspect never happened. Biden could have canceled Trump's deal for that reason, but he chose not to.
(08-29-2021, 12:18 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2021, 12:02 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Do you even know what Trump's deal with the Taliban and the Afghan government was? It was with the Taliban and the Afghan government and there were conditions that were to be met that would have insured a major cluster of this magnitude wouldn't have happened. The Biden administration abandoned both the timeline and conditional aspects of the deal, the Taliban took advantage of it and now there is what there is.
Trump never made a deal with the Afghan government, to my knowledge.
Trump's deal with the Taliban required them to make peace with the Afghan government, or at least assumed they would have by now. That aspect never happened. Biden could have canceled Trump's deal for that reason, but he chose not to.
Trumps deal was condition based. The taliban didn't honor those conditions. Biden chose to be a [BLEEP]
This is the basics of what was agreed to:
Following nine rounds of discussions, negotiators signed a peace agreement in February 2020 that addresses four main issues:
-Cease-fire. Negotiators agreed to a temporary reduction in violence and said that a lasting cease-fire among U.S., Taliban, and Afghan forces will be part of intra-Afghan negotiations.
-Withdrawal of foreign forces. The United States agreed to reduce its number of troops in the country from roughly 12,000 to 8,600 within 135 days. If the Taliban follows through on its commitments, all U.S. and other foreign troops will leave Afghanistan within fourteen months. Experts have cautioned that pulling troops out too quickly could be destabilizing.
-Intra-Afghan negotiations. The Taliban agreed to start talks with the Afghan government in March 2020. Throughout the negotiating process, the Taliban had resisted direct talks with the government, calling it an American puppet. But the Taliban has more recently indicated that talks are possible, with deputy Taliban leader Sirajuddin Haqqani writing in a New York Times op-ed, “If we can reach an agreement with a foreign enemy, we must be able to resolve intra-Afghan disagreements through talks.”
-Counterterrorism assurances. The United States invaded Afghanistan following the September 11, 2001, attacks largely to eliminate the threat of terrorism, so it seeks to halt terrorist activities in the country, including by al-Qaeda and the self-proclaimed Islamic State. As part of the agreement, the Taliban guaranteed that Afghanistan will not be used by any of its members, other individuals, or terrorist groups to threaten the security of the United States and its allies.
-U.S. officials have also stressed protecting women’s rights. Prior to the 2001 overthrow of the Taliban, the group shuttered girls’ schools and prevented women from working, among other abuses. This issue could be discussed during intra-Afghan talks.
(08-29-2021, 12:18 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2021, 12:02 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Do you even know what Trump's deal with the Taliban and the Afghan government was? It was with the Taliban and the Afghan government and there were conditions that were to be met that would have insured a major cluster of this magnitude wouldn't have happened. The Biden administration abandoned both the timeline and conditional aspects of the deal, the Taliban took advantage of it and now there is what there is.
Trump never made a deal with the Afghan government, to my knowledge.
Trump's deal with the Taliban required them to make peace with the Afghan government, or at least assumed they would have by now. That aspect never happened. Biden could have canceled Trump's deal for that reason, but he chose not to.
As usual you are wrong again.
Liberal leftists/democrats like you don't see reality.
(08-29-2021, 03:26 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2021, 12:18 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Trump never made a deal with the Afghan government, to my knowledge.
Trump's deal with the Taliban required them to make peace with the Afghan government, or at least assumed they would have by now. That aspect never happened. Biden could have canceled Trump's deal for that reason, but he chose not to.
As usual you are wrong again.
Liberal leftists/democrats like you don't see reality.
As usual you come in with name calling and allegations, but zero supporting facts.
If you're so sure I'm wrong, explain how I am wrong.
(08-29-2021, 01:48 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]This is the basics of what was agreed to:
Following nine rounds of discussions, negotiators signed a peace agreement in February 2020 that addresses four main issues:
-Cease-fire. Negotiators agreed to a temporary reduction in violence and said that a lasting cease-fire among U.S., Taliban, and Afghan forces will be part of intra-Afghan negotiations.
-Withdrawal of foreign forces. The United States agreed to reduce its number of troops in the country from roughly 12,000 to 8,600 within 135 days. If the Taliban follows through on its commitments, all U.S. and other foreign troops will leave Afghanistan within fourteen months. Experts have cautioned that pulling troops out too quickly could be destabilizing.
-Intra-Afghan negotiations. The Taliban agreed to start talks with the Afghan government in March 2020. Throughout the negotiating process, the Taliban had resisted direct talks with the government, calling it an American puppet. But the Taliban has more recently indicated that talks are possible, with deputy Taliban leader Sirajuddin Haqqani writing in a New York Times op-ed, “If we can reach an agreement with a foreign enemy, we must be able to resolve intra-Afghan disagreements through talks.”
-Counterterrorism assurances. The United States invaded Afghanistan following the September 11, 2001, attacks largely to eliminate the threat of terrorism, so it seeks to halt terrorist activities in the country, including by al-Qaeda and the self-proclaimed Islamic State. As part of the agreement, the Taliban guaranteed that Afghanistan will not be used by any of its members, other individuals, or terrorist groups to threaten the security of the United States and its allies.
-U.S. officials have also stressed protecting women’s rights. Prior to the 2001 overthrow of the Taliban, the group shuttered girls’ schools and prevented women from working, among other abuses. This issue could be discussed during intra-Afghan talks.
This was a post you just ignored, Mikey. Does he need to repost it?
We all hold Biden in contempt, why should the Limeys be any different?
(08-29-2021, 11:33 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2021, 01:48 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]This is the basics of what was agreed to:
Following nine rounds of discussions, negotiators signed a peace agreement in February 2020 that addresses four main issues:
-Cease-fire. Negotiators agreed to a temporary reduction in violence and said that a lasting cease-fire among U.S., Taliban, and Afghan forces will be part of intra-Afghan negotiations.
-Withdrawal of foreign forces. The United States agreed to reduce its number of troops in the country from roughly 12,000 to 8,600 within 135 days. If the Taliban follows through on its commitments, all U.S. and other foreign troops will leave Afghanistan within fourteen months. Experts have cautioned that pulling troops out too quickly could be destabilizing.
-Intra-Afghan negotiations. The Taliban agreed to start talks with the Afghan government in March 2020. Throughout the negotiating process, the Taliban had resisted direct talks with the government, calling it an American puppet. But the Taliban has more recently indicated that talks are possible, with deputy Taliban leader Sirajuddin Haqqani writing in a New York Times op-ed, “If we can reach an agreement with a foreign enemy, we must be able to resolve intra-Afghan disagreements through talks.”
-Counterterrorism assurances. The United States invaded Afghanistan following the September 11, 2001, attacks largely to eliminate the threat of terrorism, so it seeks to halt terrorist activities in the country, including by al-Qaeda and the self-proclaimed Islamic State. As part of the agreement, the Taliban guaranteed that Afghanistan will not be used by any of its members, other individuals, or terrorist groups to threaten the security of the United States and its allies.
-U.S. officials have also stressed protecting women’s rights. Prior to the 2001 overthrow of the Taliban, the group shuttered girls’ schools and prevented women from working, among other abuses. This issue could be discussed during intra-Afghan talks.
This was a post you just ignored, Mikey. Does he need to repost it?
Its saying the same thing as my post.
