Captains should lead by example. Both are horrible. We should see what's out there and what kind of draft picks we can get. Allen creates no pressure,, I'm sure a team would give a 2nd for him and Raiders would likely give a 3 rd for Jack to be back with Gus
Jack is mediocre and Allen, honestly not sure what happened to him.
I dont think we have a single 'good' player on defense. It's quite pathetic.
Yea seems like our draft picks are cursed like this team.
Allen's success was a product of Yannick being on the field.
(09-30-2021, 11:54 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Jack is mediocre and Allen, honestly not sure what happened to him.
The real defensive threat on the other side of the line was traded. He’s been a ghost since he became “the man to block”
Jack needs to be sent on some blitzes. He cant cover that great. Allen smh.
Haven't been a fan of Jack since last year.
I have never seen a player out of position more than him and that's not an exaggeration... He absolutely looks lost out there in coverage and is a tremendous liability.
I truly miss Poz manning the middle of the field ensuring our defense was set up correctly - and I'm sure Jack misses him too.
(09-30-2021, 11:53 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Captains should lead by example. Both are horrible. We should see what's out there and what kind of draft picks we can get. Allen creates no pressure,, I'm sure a team would give a 2nd for him and Raiders would likely give a 3 rd for Jack to be back with Gus
Over reaction a bit much? Lol.
(09-30-2021, 11:59 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2021, 11:53 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Captains should lead by example. Both are horrible. We should see what's out there and what kind of draft picks we can get. Allen creates no pressure,, I'm sure a team would give a 2nd for him and Raiders would likely give a 3 rd for Jack to be back with Gus
Over reaction a bit much? Lol.
Not at all. They haven't done anything all season. You think they are building blocks?
What's crazy is Jack's main concern coming out of college was if he could stay healthy. He was considered one of the steals of the draft by most analysts.
It is impossible statistically that all of our high picks turned into busts. It had mainly been piss poor coaching that is the common theme.
(10-01-2021, 12:01 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2021, 11:59 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]Over reaction a bit much? Lol.
Not at all. They haven't done anything all season. You think they are building blocks?
Jag fans are usually in denial when it comes to players they thought were good turn out not to be.
It's the football equivalent of battered wife syndrome.
(09-30-2021, 11:54 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Jack is mediocre and Allen, honestly not sure what happened to him.
he only pllayed good while calais was on the other side being double teamed
(10-01-2021, 12:03 AM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2021, 11:54 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Jack is mediocre and Allen, honestly not sure what happened to him.
he only pllayed good while calais was on the other side being double teamed
Yup
(10-01-2021, 12:03 AM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2021, 11:54 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Jack is mediocre and Allen, honestly not sure what happened to him.
he only pllayed good while calais was on the other side being double teamed
I forget he was also part of a trio rotation with Calais and Yannick in 2019. I’m sure they both took pressure off of him leading to his lights out year. Ghost ever since
Calais was a defensive mvp. He was always doubled, always the center of attention. Allen got to do whatever he wanted with Calais out. His production has fallen off significantly since we traded Calais.
Myles is ok, he just hasn’t made any big plays. Just playing like an average player right now.
Both are nothing special, but Allen can still develop.
Jack gets beat by playaction every time. He is terrible in zone because he can't sense where he needs to be.
Allen is being used in coverage too much.
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Both of the ops mentioned players have been very disappointing!
Coverage isn't as good and we have no one else so Allen is not getting it done. Jack I don't get.