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(10-11-2021, 04:55 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]These are in no particular order. They are just needs that should be filled. Take the BAP in the draft. God knows we could use help just about everywhere.

1. OLB/Edge Rusher (Someone who can consistently get to the passer.)

2. CB (Someone who is a true lockdown #1 cover guy.)

3. WR (Someone with speed to stretch the field as well as run good routes.) 

4. ILB (Someone who can cover receivers as well as stuff the run. Neither of are current ILB's are good at ceverage.)

5. Safety (Someone who can actually cover TE's and RB's as well as wide receivers.)

6. LT/RT (Someone who has the ability to play LT or RT, in case Little doesn't pan out on the left side. I do this in free agency or via Trade. This is a terrible year to draft one.)

7. OG (Someone to replace Norwell after this season, as Bartch will most likely be replacing Cann. I wouldn't even be opposed to taking one in round 1, if the value is there.)

8. Center (Someone who can be the eventual replacement for Linder.)

9.  TE (More competition. This is less of a need as Arnold seems to be coming along.)

10. Kicker (If Lambo continues struggling, this may move up much higher. I sign one in free agency. I hate wasting draft picks on Kickers.)

Job interviewer: Describe yourself in one word.
OLM: Poor at taking direction.

 

Can't say I disagree with any of the needs listed, but I'd be interested which you think are biggest needs

(10-11-2021, 09:12 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 04:55 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]These are in no particular order. They are just needs that should be filled. Take the BAP in the draft. God knows we could use help just about everywhere.

1. OLB/Edge Rusher (Someone who can consistently get to the passer.)

2. CB (Someone who is a true lockdown #1 cover guy.)

3. WR (Someone with speed to stretch the field as well as run good routes.) 

4. ILB (Someone who can cover receivers as well as stuff the run. Neither of are current ILB's are good at ceverage.)

5. Safety (Someone who can actually cover TE's and RB's as well as wide receivers.)

6. LT/RT (Someone who has the ability to play LT or RT, in case Little doesn't pan out on the left side. I do this in free agency or via Trade. This is a terrible year to draft one.)

7. OG (Someone to replace Norwell after this season, as Bartch will most likely be replacing Cann. I wouldn't even be opposed to taking one in round 1, if the value is there.)

8. Center (Someone who can be the eventual replacement for Linder.)

9.  TE (More competition. This is less of a need as Arnold seems to be coming along.)

10. Kicker (If Lambo continues struggling, this may move up much higher. I sign one in free agency. I hate wasting draft picks on Kickers.)

Job interviewer: Describe yourself in one word.
OLM: Poor at taking direction.

 

Can't say I disagree with any of the needs listed, but I'd be interested which you think are biggest needs

Yeah it’s more than 5 but the team has more needs than 5 positions. I like this list.

Top 5 needs? For next year? Before I get into that let's talk about linebackers. Specifically Myles Jack. If he is out for a time we will get to see what Quarterman, Dakota Allen and Russel can do at ILB. We know what we have in Wilson. Myles is not good at ILB. If he comes back, move him to OLB opposite of Allen. Maybe he can play better there.

Now on to top 5 needs for next year

1. O-line as Trevor gonna need protecting. Norwell will be gone, as will Cann. I fear Linder is going to be a liability at center, at best unreliable to make it through a year. Taylor is not progressing and Robinson isn't worth what he will want. Bartch may run block well but he is getting mauled in pass protection. So unless you want to see Trevor go the route of oft injured Andrew Luck, this better be a top priority. In fact, scouting improvement may top this need.

2. Edge rusher, unless they move Jack over there and he becomes all world but not likely. In any event edge rusher help is Always a priority.

3. ILB. What we have isn't good. Crossing patterns is just about the biggest weakness on defense after pass rush

4. Shutdown corner. 'nuff said

5. True #1 receiver. Whether draft or FA this needs to happen. I like Chark but he just hasn't panned out as a #1. Urbs was right about him playing small. Always did at LSU and has here in Jax. Plus, he gets hurt a lot.

I did not include D-line nor TE position because I feel both are holding their own now. Especially TE with the addition of Arnold and to a lesser extent Hollister. Safety I reserve judgement on until I see Cisco get significant playing time. But the O-line is far, far and away the biggest need on this team going forward.

All this said, that is a LOT of positions to fill 4 on defense and 5 possibly 6 on offense if you count WR#1, and 4 possibly 5 o-line positions

(10-11-2021, 12:05 PM)DTWD4∞ Wrote: [ -> ]Top 5 needs? For next year? Before I get into that let's talk about linebackers. Specifically Myles Jack. If he is out for a time we will get to see what Quarterman, Dakota Allen and Russel can do at ILB. We know what we have in  Wilson. Myles is not good at ILB. If he comes back, move him to OLB opposite of Allen. Maybe he can play better there.

Now on to top 5 needs for next year

1. O-line as Trevor gonna need protecting. Norwell will be gone, as will Cann. I fear Linder is going to be a liability at center, at best unreliable to make it through a year. Taylor is not progressing and Robinson isn't worth what he will want. Bartch may run block well but he is getting mauled in pass protection. So unless you want to see Trevor go the route of oft injured Andrew Luck, this better be a top priority. In fact, scouting improvement may top this need.

2. Edge rusher, unless they move Jack over there and he becomes all world but not likely. In any event edge rusher help is Always a priority.

3. ILB. What we have isn't good. Crossing patterns is just about the biggest weakness on defense after pass rush

4. Shutdown corner. 'nuff said

5. True #1 receiver. Whether draft or FA this needs to happen. I like Chark but he just hasn't panned out as a #1. Urbs was right about him playing small. Always did at LSU and has here in Jax. Plus, he gets hurt a lot.

I did not include D-line nor TE position because I feel both are holding their own  now. Especially TE with the addition of Arnold and to a lesser extent Hollister. Safety I reserve judgement on until I see Cisco get significant playing time. But the O-line is far, far and away the biggest need on this team going forward.

All this said, that is a LOT of positions to fill 4 on defense and 5 possibly 6 on offense if you count WR#1, and 4 possibly 5 o-line positions

This is what happens when the general manager does so terribly in the high rounds of each draft. Unless Baalke/Meyer do a much better job in the next couple of off-seasons than they did on their first go-round, Lawrence's immense talent will be wasted. 

The top priority for Meyer and his staff for the remaining 12 games this season is to determine which young players should form the nucleus of the team moving forward. Little, Cisco and Jordan Smith need to be given an increasing number of snaps each game. They will inevitably make their share of mistakes, but this team obviously couldn't be much worse. If they don't play Little, how will they know what he is capable of in the NFL? Better to find out now than at the start of next season when he is starting at left tackle and responsible for Trevor Lawrence's blindside. 

The offensive line must be the priority for the reasons you mentioned. It will take two seasons at the least to meet all the team's needs, but if Lawrence isn't given adequate protection nothing else will matter. Imagine how many fans would show up for a home game without Lawrence at quarterback.

(10-11-2021, 04:55 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]These are in no particular order. They are just needs that should be filled. Take the BAP in the draft. God knows we could use help just about everywhere.

1. OLB/Edge Rusher (Someone who can consistently get to the passer.)

2. CB (Someone who is a true lockdown #1 cover guy.)

3. WR (Someone with speed to stretch the field as well as run good routes.) 

4. ILB (Someone who can cover receivers as well as stuff the run. Neither of are current ILB's are good at ceverage.)

5. Safety (Someone who can actually cover TE's and RB's as well as wide receivers.)

6. LT/RT (Someone who has the ability to play LT or RT, in case Little doesn't pan out on the left side. I do this in free agency or via Trade. This is a terrible year to draft one.)

7. OG (Someone to replace Norwell after this season, as Bartch will most likely be replacing Cann. I wouldn't even be opposed to taking one in round 1, if the value is there.)

8. Center (Someone who can be the eventual replacement for Linder.)

9.  TE (More competition. This is less of a need as Arnold seems to be coming along.)

10. Kicker (If Lambo continues struggling, this may move up much higher. I sign one in free agency. I hate wasting draft picks on Kickers.)

I can't argue with this list.  I think it's right on.  I might have some nuanced differences on the comments.  For example, I don't like the idea of taking a OG in round one.  If we were picking late in round one, fine, but I don't like taking an OG in the early first round which is where we will be picking.  I know you qualified it with "if the value is there", but it would need to be a hall of fame quality OG for me to take one that early.  Guards often drop in the draft.  I'm also a little more concerned about TE.  I feel like we have role players, but I like the all-around tight end that doesn't tip our hand on the play we are about to run.  As for kicker, I don't oppose signing one in free agency, but I also don't oppose a draft pick.  Late round picks have a low rate of return.  If our late seventh round pick solves our problem at kicker, that will be well worth it.

(10-11-2021, 04:55 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]These are in no particular order. They are just needs that should be filled. Take the BAP in the draft. God knows we could use help just about everywhere.

1. OLB/Edge Rusher (Someone who can consistently get to the passer.)

2. CB (Someone who is a true lockdown #1 cover guy.)

3. WR (Someone with speed to stretch the field as well as run good routes.) 

4. ILB (Someone who can cover receivers as well as stuff the run. Neither of are current ILB's are good at ceverage.)

5. Safety (Someone who can actually cover TE's and RB's as well as wide receivers.)

6. LT/RT (Someone who has the ability to play LT or RT, in case Little doesn't pan out on the left side. I do this in free agency or via Trade. This is a terrible year to draft one.)

7. OG (Someone to replace Norwell after this season, as Bartch will most likely be replacing Cann. I wouldn't even be opposed to taking one in round 1, if the value is there.)

8. Center (Someone who can be the eventual replacement for Linder.)

9.  TE (More competition. This is less of a need as Arnold seems to be coming along.)

10. Kicker (If Lambo continues struggling, this may move up much higher. I sign one in free agency. I hate wasting draft picks on Kickers.)

Did you just list every position?  In no particular order?

I mean, it's really hard to disagree.

(10-11-2021, 02:50 PM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 04:55 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]These are in no particular order. They are just needs that should be filled. Take the BAP in the draft. God knows we could use help just about everywhere.

1. OLB/Edge Rusher (Someone who can consistently get to the passer.)

2. CB (Someone who is a true lockdown #1 cover guy.)

3. WR (Someone with speed to stretch the field as well as run good routes.) 

4. ILB (Someone who can cover receivers as well as stuff the run. Neither of are current ILB's are good at ceverage.)

5. Safety (Someone who can actually cover TE's and RB's as well as wide receivers.)

6. LT/RT (Someone who has the ability to play LT or RT, in case Little doesn't pan out on the left side. I do this in free agency or via Trade. This is a terrible year to draft one.)

7. OG (Someone to replace Norwell after this season, as Bartch will most likely be replacing Cann. I wouldn't even be opposed to taking one in round 1, if the value is there.)

8. Center (Someone who can be the eventual replacement for Linder.)

9.  TE (More competition. This is less of a need as Arnold seems to be coming along.)

10. Kicker (If Lambo continues struggling, this may move up much higher. I sign one in free agency. I hate wasting draft picks on Kickers.)

Did you just list every position?  In no particular order?

I mean, it's really hard to disagree.

 It's pretty much true.  I think we're fine at quarterback, running back, defensive/nose tackle, punter and return specialist.  Oh, I guess I have no complaints with our long snapper either.  That's about it.

(10-11-2021, 09:12 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 04:55 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]These are in no particular order. They are just needs that should be filled. Take the BAP in the draft. God knows we could use help just about everywhere.

1. OLB/Edge Rusher (Someone who can consistently get to the passer.)

2. CB (Someone who is a true lockdown #1 cover guy.)

3. WR (Someone with speed to stretch the field as well as run good routes.) 

4. ILB (Someone who can cover receivers as well as stuff the run. Neither of are current ILB's are good at ceverage.)

5. Safety (Someone who can actually cover TE's and RB's as well as wide receivers.)

6. LT/RT (Someone who has the ability to play LT or RT, in case Little doesn't pan out on the left side. I do this in free agency or via Trade. This is a terrible year to draft one.)

7. OG (Someone to replace Norwell after this season, as Bartch will most likely be replacing Cann. I wouldn't even be opposed to taking one in round 1, if the value is there.)

8. Center (Someone who can be the eventual replacement for Linder.)

9.  TE (More competition. This is less of a need as Arnold seems to be coming along.)

10. Kicker (If Lambo continues struggling, this may move up much higher. I sign one in free agency. I hate wasting draft picks on Kickers.)

Job interviewer: Describe yourself in one word.
OLM: Poor at taking direction.

 

Can't say I disagree with any of the needs listed, but I'd be interested which you think are biggest needs

The problem is that we have so many glaring needs that I don't know which needs outweigh others. There are so many variables as well. We have guys we spent high round picks on like Cisco and Little who have barely seen the field. Cisco looked excellent in preseason, but is being held back. Why? Can Little be a franchise LT or would he be better suited for the right side? Will Linder be cut, given his constant injury history or will he be kept around at his $10 million 2022 price tag? Which areas will be filled in free agency? Where will we be selecting in the draft and who will be on the board when we pick? 

I've been a Jaguars fan since the very beginning and I can't remember a time where we have so many critical needs. Other than QB, RB, NT and Punter, this team is almost a complete teardown. Personally, I would go all in on free agency at 2 positions (OT and WR.) I go hard after Saints OT Terron Armstead and Packers WR Davante Adams. The Saints may let Armstead go due to the contract that he will command and the fact that they just signed Ryan Ramczyk to a big contract. If he is available via free agency or a sign and trade deal, I do it in a heartbeat, no matter the cost, because IMO, there is no OT in the next draft worth spending a first or possibly a second round selection on. Armstead would be the LT and I would have Little compete with Taylor for the RT spot. If Little develops, we'd have bookend Tackles for the first time in forever. If Armstead can't be had, I consider Duane Brown or Riley Reiff, but at a high, yet reasonable contract. If that is not possible, I trade for a LT using whatever draft picks it takes. 

I also throw the brinks truck at WR Davante Adams. If Aaron Rodgers leaves Green Bay at the end of the season, which seems inevitable, Adams is gonna leave too. He'd be a perfect #1 WR. My backup plan would be signing Mike Williams of the Chargers. He's really taken a step forward this season and although he currently plays second fiddle to Keenan Allen, he looks like he could be a #1 guy. 

As for the draft, it's a wait and see approach. It all depends on who is on the board. There is no position other than QB, RB, NT and Punter that I wouldn't consider. The key is to take the BAP and when you have so many needs, that should be an easy task. I see players I like at edge rusher, CB, Safety, WR, OG, Center and ILB that I would take in round 1. Personally, I would try and trade down to accumulate picks, but I really don't have enough faith in the current regime not to squander those picks if we did. I would hope that we'd have a new staff here, if we were picking high. Given who wishy-washy Khan is and how long of a leash he gives his front office people and coaches, I just expect more of the same old, same old for 2022.

(10-11-2021, 04:14 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 09:12 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]Job interviewer: Describe yourself in one word.
OLM: Poor at taking direction.

 

Can't say I disagree with any of the needs listed, but I'd be interested which you think are biggest needs

The problem is that we have so many glaring needs that I don't know which needs outweigh others. There are so many variables as well. We have guys we spent high round picks on like Cisco and Little who have barely seen the field. Cisco looked excellent in preseason, but is being held back. Why? Can Little be a franchise LT or would he be better suited for the right side? Will Linder be cut, given his constant injury history or will he be kept around at his $10 million 2022 price tag? Which areas will be filled in free agency? Where will we be selecting in the draft and who will be on the board when we pick? 

I've been a Jaguars fan since the very beginning and I can't remember a time where we have so many critical needs. Other than QB, RB, NT and Punter, this team is almost a complete teardown. Personally, I would go all in on free agency at 2 positions (OT and WR.) I go hard after Saints OT Terron Armstead and Packers WR Davante Adams. The Saints may let Armstead go due to the contract that he will command and the fact that they just signed Ryan Ramczyk to a big contract. If he is available via free agency or a sign and trade deal, I do it in a heartbeat, no matter the cost, because IMO, there is no OT in the next draft worth spending a first or possibly a second round selection on. Armstead would be the LT and I would have Little compete with Taylor for the RT spot. If Little develops, we'd have bookend Tackles for the first time in forever. If Armstead can't be had, I consider Duane Brown or Riley Reiff, but at a high, yet reasonable contract. If that is not possible, I trade for a LT using whatever draft picks it takes. 

I also throw the brinks truck at WR Davante Adams. If Aaron Rodgers leaves Green Bay at the end of the season, which seems inevitable, Adams is gonna leave too. He'd be a perfect #1 WR. My backup plan would be signing Mike Williams of the Chargers. He's really taken a step forward this season and although he currently plays second fiddle to Keenan Allen, he looks like he could be a #1 guy. 

As for the draft, it's a wait and see approach. It all depends on who is on the board. There is no position other than QB, RB, NT and Punter that I wouldn't consider. The key is to take the BAP and when you have so many needs, that should be an easy task. I see players I like at edge rusher, CB, Safety, WR, OG, Center and ILB that I would take in round 1. Personally, I would try and trade down to accumulate picks, but I really don't have enough faith in the current regime not to squander those picks if we did. I would hope that we'd have a new staff here, if we were picking high. Given who wishy-washy Khan is and how long of a leash he gives his front office people and coaches, I just expect more of the same old, same old for 2022.

I didn't realize Mike Williams will be a FA.  Injuries set him back early in his career but he is looking like a beast WR like I thought he would be and like he did at Clemson.  Mike Williams can definitely be a number 1 WR imo and would be a great get

(10-11-2021, 02:50 PM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 04:55 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]These are in no particular order. They are just needs that should be filled. Take the BAP in the draft. God knows we could use help just about everywhere.

1. OLB/Edge Rusher (Someone who can consistently get to the passer.)

2. CB (Someone who is a true lockdown #1 cover guy.)

3. WR (Someone with speed to stretch the field as well as run good routes.) 

4. ILB (Someone who can cover receivers as well as stuff the run. Neither of are current ILB's are good at ceverage.)

5. Safety (Someone who can actually cover TE's and RB's as well as wide receivers.)

6. LT/RT (Someone who has the ability to play LT or RT, in case Little doesn't pan out on the left side. I do this in free agency or via Trade. This is a terrible year to draft one.)

7. OG (Someone to replace Norwell after this season, as Bartch will most likely be replacing Cann. I wouldn't even be opposed to taking one in round 1, if the value is there.)

8. Center (Someone who can be the eventual replacement for Linder.)

9.  TE (More competition. This is less of a need as Arnold seems to be coming along.)

10. Kicker (If Lambo continues struggling, this may move up much higher. I sign one in free agency. I hate wasting draft picks on Kickers.)

Did you just list every position?  In no particular order?

I mean, it's really hard to disagree.

I don't see backup QB on the list. We have what, like 17 day 3 picks? gotta get one for sure!

(10-11-2021, 04:14 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 09:12 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]Job interviewer: Describe yourself in one word.
OLM: Poor at taking direction.

 

Can't say I disagree with any of the needs listed, but I'd be interested which you think are biggest needs

The problem is that we have so many glaring needs that I don't know which needs outweigh others. There are so many variables as well. We have guys we spent high round picks on like Cisco and Little who have barely seen the field. Cisco looked excellent in preseason, but is being held back. Why? Can Little be a franchise LT or would he be better suited for the right side? Will Linder be cut, given his constant injury history or will he be kept around at his $10 million 2022 price tag? Which areas will be filled in free agency? Where will we be selecting in the draft and who will be on the board when we pick? 

I've been a Jaguars fan since the very beginning and I can't remember a time where we have so many critical needs. Other than QB, RB, NT and Punter, this team is almost a complete teardown. Personally, I would go all in on free agency at 2 positions (OT and WR.) I go hard after Saints OT Terron Armstead and Packers WR Davante Adams. The Saints may let Armstead go due to the contract that he will command and the fact that they just signed Ryan Ramczyk to a big contract. If he is available via free agency or a sign and trade deal, I do it in a heartbeat, no matter the cost, because IMO, there is no OT in the next draft worth spending a first or possibly a second round selection on. Armstead would be the LT and I would have Little compete with Taylor for the RT spot. If Little develops, we'd have bookend Tackles for the first time in forever. If Armstead can't be had, I consider Duane Brown or Riley Reiff, but at a high, yet reasonable contract. If that is not possible, I trade for a LT using whatever draft picks it takes. 

I also throw the brinks truck at WR Davante Adams. If Aaron Rodgers leaves Green Bay at the end of the season, which seems inevitable, Adams is gonna leave too. He'd be a perfect #1 WR. My backup plan would be signing Mike Williams of the Chargers. He's really taken a step forward this season and although he currently plays second fiddle to Keenan Allen, he looks like he could be a #1 guy. 

As for the draft, it's a wait and see approach. It all depends on who is on the board. There is no position other than QB, RB, NT and Punter that I wouldn't consider. The key is to take the BAP and when you have so many needs, that should be an easy task. I see players I like at edge rusher, CB, Safety, WR, OG, Center and ILB that I would take in round 1. Personally, I would try and trade down to accumulate picks, but I really don't have enough faith in the current regime not to squander those picks if we did. I would hope that we'd have a new staff here, if we were picking high. Given who wishy-washy Khan is and how long of a leash he gives his front office people and coaches, I just expect more of the same old, same old for 2022.

I agree that Armstead should be the top priority in free agency. Little would be the right tackle and Taylor would compete for one of the two starting guard spots. It's possible he can become an effective guard, something that will never happen at tackle. I'd pass on Brown and Reiff, however, as both are too old to invest a huge amount on.

My first choice for receiver would be Chris Godwin. He is a few years younger than Adams and is very capable of being a number 1 receiver. Williams would be a distant 2nd option at receiver. 

One other free agent target should be Darrious Williams. He's from Jacksonville and has been a very solid pro. Tyson Campbell has a long way to go before he can be relied upon as a starting cornerback. Hopefully his ball skills will improve which would give the Jaguars three solid corners. 

The Jaguars will undoubtably be picking in the top 5 of the 2022 draft- most likely in the top 3. Thibodeaux would be the best choice as things stand now. An elite pass rusher paired with Josh Allen would pay big dividends for the defense. If Chaisson, who is only 22 years old, can continue to show the improvement he showed against the Titans the defense could actually be very solid.

These moves would enable our fanbase to believe our team has a legitimate chance to be contenders for the AFC South title next season. As crazy as this sounds, adding 4 excellent players like Armstead, Godwin, Williams and Thibodeaux to a team lead by a very talented quarterback would actually make our dreams of a quick turnaround seem achievable.

I would like FA to take care of the defensive side of the ball, especially leadership. Can't draft a play caller. I would like the high draft picks used for WR/TE talent as well as players for the secondary.

(10-11-2021, 09:30 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]I would like FA to take care of the defensive side of the ball, especially leadership.  Can't draft a play caller.  I would like the high draft picks used for WR/TE talent as well as players for the secondary.

A competent Mike would do wonders for our defense now.

If the Jags draft in the top 3, which is almost a given at this point, I hope they trade down for some extra day 2 picks. Ideal scenario would be trade back with the Eagles and pick up an extra 2nd rounder while still getting an impact defender in the 1st round. That would give 5 picks in the first 3 rounds, plus a ton of late round picks that might be a hidden gem.

Miles jack is a great piece but hes not the one to be calling plays

(10-11-2021, 11:22 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Miles jack is a great piece but hes not the one to be calling plays

He's a piece that isnt cut for this puzzle.

(10-11-2021, 11:31 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 11:22 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Miles jack is a great piece but hes not the one to be calling plays

He's a piece that isnt cut for this puzzle.

Until he goes to another team and turns into a pro bowl beast

(10-11-2021, 09:27 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 04:14 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]The problem is that we have so many glaring needs that I don't know which needs outweigh others. There are so many variables as well. We have guys we spent high round picks on like Cisco and Little who have barely seen the field. Cisco looked excellent in preseason, but is being held back. Why? Can Little be a franchise LT or would he be better suited for the right side? Will Linder be cut, given his constant injury history or will he be kept around at his $10 million 2022 price tag? Which areas will be filled in free agency? Where will we be selecting in the draft and who will be on the board when we pick? 

I've been a Jaguars fan since the very beginning and I can't remember a time where we have so many critical needs. Other than QB, RB, NT and Punter, this team is almost a complete teardown. Personally, I would go all in on free agency at 2 positions (OT and WR.) I go hard after Saints OT Terron Armstead and Packers WR Davante Adams. The Saints may let Armstead go due to the contract that he will command and the fact that they just signed Ryan Ramczyk to a big contract. If he is available via free agency or a sign and trade deal, I do it in a heartbeat, no matter the cost, because IMO, there is no OT in the next draft worth spending a first or possibly a second round selection on. Armstead would be the LT and I would have Little compete with Taylor for the RT spot. If Little develops, we'd have bookend Tackles for the first time in forever. If Armstead can't be had, I consider Duane Brown or Riley Reiff, but at a high, yet reasonable contract. If that is not possible, I trade for a LT using whatever draft picks it takes. 

I also throw the brinks truck at WR Davante Adams. If Aaron Rodgers leaves Green Bay at the end of the season, which seems inevitable, Adams is gonna leave too. He'd be a perfect #1 WR. My backup plan would be signing Mike Williams of the Chargers. He's really taken a step forward this season and although he currently plays second fiddle to Keenan Allen, he looks like he could be a #1 guy. 

As for the draft, it's a wait and see approach. It all depends on who is on the board. There is no position other than QB, RB, NT and Punter that I wouldn't consider. The key is to take the BAP and when you have so many needs, that should be an easy task. I see players I like at edge rusher, CB, Safety, WR, OG, Center and ILB that I would take in round 1. Personally, I would try and trade down to accumulate picks, but I really don't have enough faith in the current regime not to squander those picks if we did. I would hope that we'd have a new staff here, if we were picking high. Given who wishy-washy Khan is and how long of a leash he gives his front office people and coaches, I just expect more of the same old, same old for 2022.

I agree that Armstead should be the top priority in free agency. Little would be the right tackle and Taylor would compete for one of the two starting guard spots. It's possible he can become an effective guard, something that will never happen at tackle. I'd pass on Brown and Reiff, however, as both are too old to invest a huge amount on.

My first choice for receiver would be Chris Godwin. He is a few years younger than Adams and is very capable of being a number 1 receiver. Williams would be a distant 2nd option at receiver. 

One other free agent target should be Darrious Williams. He's from Jacksonville and has been a very solid pro. Tyson Campbell has a long way to go before he can be relied upon as a starting cornerback. Hopefully his ball skills will improve which would give the Jaguars three solid corners. 

The Jaguars will undoubtably be picking in the top 5 of the 2022 draft- most likely in the top 3. Thibodeaux would be the best choice as things stand now. An elite pass rusher paired with Josh Allen would pay big dividends for the defense. If Chaisson, who is only 22 years old, can continue to show the improvement he showed against the Titans the defense could actually be very solid.

These moves would enable our fanbase to believe our team has a legitimate chance to be contenders for the AFC South title next season. As crazy as this sounds, adding 4 excellent players like Armstead, Godwin, Williams and Thibodeaux to a team lead by a very talented quarterback would actually make our dreams of a quick turnaround seem achievable.

That's what the Bengals said about Andrew Whitworth back in 2016 and he made the Bengals look stupid. Good OT's have a pretty long shelf life as long as they stay relatively healthy. You might be right about Duane Brown, as his production has dwindled this season, but Riley Reiff has played very well for the Bengals so far and had his best year as a pro in 2020 with the Vikings. I'd take Reiff in a heartbeat over anyone else we have. 

Disagree about WR. I'd much rather have Adams or Williams. 

I wouldn't be opposed to Darrious Williams, I just know that this next draft is a pretty deep for CB's and I'd watch where I spend the majority of the cap money. Lawrence will command a huge contract in a few years. 

I wouldn't count too heavily on Chaisson. I hope he does improve, but it seems every team the Titans have faced this season have destroyed their O-Line.

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(10-11-2021, 09:30 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]I would like FA to take care of the defensive side of the ball, especially leadership.  Can't draft a play caller.  I would like the high draft picks used for WR/TE talent as well as players for the secondary.

Is there any WR/TE entering the draft worth a high round pick? I love Chris Olave. He seems to be the top WR in the next draft class, but I'm not seeing any mocks where he is being picked in the top 10 and I have yet to find a single mock where a TE is taken in round 1. You gotta select the BAP regardless of offense or defense.

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(10-11-2021, 09:31 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 09:30 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]I would like FA to take care of the defensive side of the ball, especially leadership.  Can't draft a play caller.  I would like the high draft picks used for WR/TE talent as well as players for the secondary.

A competent Mike would do wonders for our defense now.

Amen!

(10-11-2021, 11:00 PM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]If the Jags draft in the top 3, which is almost a given at this point, I hope they trade down for some extra day 2 picks.  Ideal scenario would be trade back with the Eagles and pick up an extra 2nd rounder while still getting an impact defender in the 1st round. That would give 5 picks in the first 3 rounds, plus a ton of late round picks that might be a hidden gem.

Agreed, but our track record of making good picks, even when we have multiple picks in round 1, is not good. It would still be the goal to trade down though. I just hope we are smarter with our selections though.

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(10-11-2021, 11:37 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 11:31 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]He's a piece that isnt cut for this puzzle.

Until he goes to another team and turns into a pro bowl beast

It would have to be a 4-3 team where he plays OLB, because he doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme or MLB in a 4-3.

(10-12-2021, 12:17 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2021, 11:00 PM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]If the Jags draft in the top 3, which is almost a given at this point, I hope they trade down for some extra day 2 picks.  Ideal scenario would be trade back with the Eagles and pick up an extra 2nd rounder while still getting an impact defender in the 1st round. That would give 5 picks in the first 3 rounds, plus a ton of late round picks that might be a hidden gem.

Agreed, but our track record of making good picks, even when we have multiple picks in round 1, is not good. It would still be the goal to trade down though. I just hope we are smarter with our selections though.

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(10-11-2021, 11:37 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Until he goes to another team and turns into a pro bowl beast

It would have to be a 4-3 team where he plays OLB, because he doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme or MLB in a 4-3.

Exactly the point. We went from having three or four really good 43 WLBs down to just one while also changing to a scheme that doesn't use one.