(10-26-2021, 08:57 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Great insight here on Agnew's emergence and skillset, Laviska's adaptation to a new role, and notes on Johnson's progress learning the route tree.
https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/duval-ins...aguars-wrs
It's hard to believe that Agnew had only one year of experience as a WR prior to coming to the Jags.
(10-26-2021, 09:37 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021, 08:57 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Great insight here on Agnew's emergence and skillset, Laviska's adaptation to a new role, and notes on Johnson's progress learning the route tree.
https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/duval-ins...aguars-wrs
It's hard to believe that Agnew had only one year of experience as a WR prior to coming to the Jags.
He's an impressive guy and player.
I have liked very few decisions from this regime, but this acquisition was gold IMO.
I really feel with another offseason under his belt he can be a top tier slot guy. He’ll learn the route running, but his hands have been the biggest factor to me.
Good Read.
Agnew, as noted in the article has impressed at the WR position from day one. I'm happy to watch his progressions at the position.
LS10 is also making strides within his new WR role especially being clutch when it's needed.
I Love Our receivers including the revamped TE group. This Bi-Week definately came at the right time. I'm expecting the offense to really take off.
Time Will Tell.
NH3...
(10-26-2021, 09:42 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021, 09:37 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]It's hard to believe that Agnew had only one year of experience as a WR prior to coming to the Jags.
He's an impressive guy and player.
I have liked very few decisions from this regime, but this acquisition was gold IMO.
Agreed, flsptsgod is probably the only one that thinks he was a bad get
(10-26-2021, 10:00 AM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]I really feel with another offseason under his belt he can be a top tier slot guy. He’ll learn the route running, but his hands have been the biggest factor to me.
I def agree with you here and would add his availability has been a big factor as well. If he can avoid injury we may very well have found a gem.
The only thing this coach needs to improve on is having the WRs stop dropping passes. Other than that, improvements in other areas.
(10-26-2021, 12:04 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021, 09:42 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]He's an impressive guy and player.
I have liked very few decisions from this regime, but this acquisition was gold IMO.
Agreed, flsptsgod is probably the only one that thinks he was a bad get
You have a problem understanding the concept of "value", I get it, I really do. Agnew is a fine piece as a Teams guy and emergency receiver, but you should probably pump the brakes on anything more until we see him have more than 12 catches over 6 games. Spending that kind of coin and making him such an early target in Free Agency is akin to the ETN pick, no complaints about the player but some complaint about the cost and timing. Hopefully it works out over the long term and what we've seen isn't just a small flash in the pan.
Agnew seems like he’s running on turf while everyone else is in snow.
(10-26-2021, 01:39 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021, 12:04 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed, flsptsgod is probably the only one that thinks he was a bad get
You have a problem understanding the concept of "value", I get it, I really do. Agnew is a fine piece as a Teams guy and emergency receiver, but you should probably pump the brakes on anything more until we see him have more than 12 catches over 6 games. Spending that kind of coin and making him such an early target in Free Agency is akin to the ETN pick, no complaints about the player but some complaint about the cost and timing. Hopefully it works out over the long term and what we've seen isn't just a small flash in the pan.
I understand the concept of "value" just fine but I do question if you do. He has been very valuable to this team early on and dude is a game changer and a former 1st team All Pro, he's a weapon as a returner and a guy you can also use on the offense. You thought getting Marvin Jones was a bad get as well lol
(10-26-2021, 01:39 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021, 12:04 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed, flsptsgod is probably the only one that thinks he was a bad get
You have a problem understanding the concept of "value", I get it, I really do. Agnew is a fine piece as a Teams guy and emergency receiver, but you should probably pump the brakes on anything more until we see him have more than 12 catches over 6 games. Spending that kind of coin and making him such an early target in Free Agency is akin to the ETN pick, no complaints about the player but some complaint about the cost and timing. Hopefully it works out over the long term and what we've seen isn't just a small flash in the pan.
And if it weren't for an injury to Chark, Agnew would likely never really see the field on offense.
He wasn't signed to be a WR but the team kind of lucked into him making some plays. Hopefully, it continues but I agree with pretty much everything you said.
(10-26-2021, 02:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021, 01:39 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]You have a problem understanding the concept of "value", I get it, I really do. Agnew is a fine piece as a Teams guy and emergency receiver, but you should probably pump the brakes on anything more until we see him have more than 12 catches over 6 games. Spending that kind of coin and making him such an early target in Free Agency is akin to the ETN pick, no complaints about the player but some complaint about the cost and timing. Hopefully it works out over the long term and what we've seen isn't just a small flash in the pan.
I understand the concept of "value" just fine but I do question if you do. He has been very valuable to this team early on and dude is a game changer and a former 1st team All Pro, he's a weapon as a returner and a guy you can also use on the offense. You thought getting Marvin Jones was a bad get as well lol
Odd, I just went through about 20 pages of the Free Agency thread where we discussed Jones and I didn't see that I had a negative opinion of the signing. I will point and laugh at you again though when you go back and see that the Jags signed:
Jamal Agnew
Rudy Ford
RRH
Philip Dorsett
Carlos Hyde
Shaq Griffin
Tyson Alualu
Jihad Ward
BEFORE they signed Marvin Jones.
So yeah, the concept of value is completely lost on both them and you.
It would be nice to see #12 make some plays. It could really open up the offense. Hopefully
(10-26-2021, 03:23 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]It would be nice to see #12 make some plays. It could really open up the offense. Hopefully
I heard he needs another month to learn the playbook.
(10-26-2021, 03:22 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021, 02:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I understand the concept of "value" just fine but I do question if you do. He has been very valuable to this team early on and dude is a game changer and a former 1st team All Pro, he's a weapon as a returner and a guy you can also use on the offense. You thought getting Marvin Jones was a bad get as well lol
Odd, I just went through about 20 pages of the Free Agency thread where we discussed Jones and I didn't see that I had a negative opinion of the signing. I will point and laugh at you again though when you go back and see that the Jags signed:
Jamal Agnew
Rudy Ford
RRH
Philip Dorsett
Carlos Hyde
Shaq Griffin
Tyson Alualu
Jihad Ward
BEFORE they signed Marvin Jones.
So yeah, the concept of value is completely lost on both them and you.
Maybe it was Griffin and not Jones. I don't give a [BLEEP] who got signed first or in what order the players were signed. If we sign Adams or Godwin next year and they are the last player we sign I couldnt care less. You have no clue what's going on behind closed doors. Players could be weighing their options before putting pen to paper or even working out details, you are clueless as to what is going on behind closed doors. None of us really know what players we swung for and missed out on
(10-26-2021, 03:46 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021, 03:22 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Odd, I just went through about 20 pages of the Free Agency thread where we discussed Jones and I didn't see that I had a negative opinion of the signing. I will point and laugh at you again though when you go back and see that the Jags signed:
Jamal Agnew
Rudy Ford
RRH
Philip Dorsett
Carlos Hyde
Shaq Griffin
Tyson Alualu
Jihad Ward
BEFORE they signed Marvin Jones.
So yeah, the concept of value is completely lost on both them and you.
I don't give a [BLEEP] who got signed first or in what order the players were signed. If we sign Adams or Godwin next year and they are the last player we sign I couldnt care less. You have no clue what's going on behind closed doors. Players could be weighing their options before putting pen to paper or even working out details, you are clueless as to what is going on behind closed doors. None of us really know what players we swung for and missed out on
Right, right, right. Like I said, the preponderance of the mountain of evidence says that you're clueless.
And I was very critical of the Day 1 signings but had no issues with Griffin or Jones. So you probably mistook Dorsett for Jones, which would be about right for how you understand value.
(10-26-2021, 03:35 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021, 03:23 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]It would be nice to see #12 make some plays. It could really open up the offense. Hopefully
I heard he needs another month to learn the playbook.
He better tighten it up already!
(10-26-2021, 03:53 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-26-2021, 03:35 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I heard he needs another month to learn the playbook.
He better tighten it up already!
That's kinda the deal with waiver claims, they aren't there unless someone else already gave up on them. We don't have a lot of good players caught up in salary cap cuts the way we used to, mostly it's just the 6th receiver or 4th RB or 10th lineman on the roster who just wasn't worth keeping. Hollister and Johnson both seem to fall in that category, just not that much better than what was already here.
^ yep. Sometimes if you are lucky, you find a steal