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This is an article about a Syrian rebel force known as Ahrar al sham. They have been backed by the US coalition forces from the beginning. They are a classic example of the so called "moderate" forces the white house created to fight in Syria against Assad. I cut and paste out a portion of the article that gets to the point of the article which is these people are not nice and are barely distinguishable from ISIS if at all, and Jon Kerry admitted as such TWICE in the same conversation. I suggest to anybody actually curious about the civil war in Syria read this. It tells you all about Ahrar al sham from beginning to end, and how we've been deceived to think these people are "moderate"

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://thewallwillfall.org/2016/07/14/syria-john-kerry-torpedoes-us-ahrar-al-sham-moderate-rebel-status/'>https://thewallwillfall.org/2016/07/14/syria-john-kerry-torpedoes-us-ahrar-al-sham-moderate-rebel-status/</a>


"Ahrar al Sham has been complicit in a multitude of crimes against humanity in Syria, according to many it is actually even more brutal than ISIS in its extremism and targeting and ethnic cleansing of minorities such as the Alawites and Shia muslims. The US defense of Ahrar al Sham as a “moderate opposition” and its platforming of Ahrar al Shams desire for an Islamic state has underpinned their “regime change” policy in Syria.


The John Kerry Grenade


Lets now return to the discourse between Walter Isaacson and John Kerry. During this conversation, Kerry makes two astounding statements that completely overturn the US dialectic regarding Ahrar al Sham.


1: “Everybody knows the threat. We’ve all awakened to the news that I just announced to you. How many times have you awakened to it? Vicious attacks perpetrated by a lone wolf or by a group, inspired on the internet or otherwise. From Orlando to San Bernardino to the Philippines and Bali, we’ve seen pictures and we’ve heard testimony of shocking crimes committed by al-Qaida, by Boko Haram, by Jaysh al-Islam, by Ahrar al-Sham, by al-Shabaab, Daesh, other groups against innocent civilians, against journalists, and against teachers particularly.”




2: “But the most important thing, frankly, is seeing if we can reach an understanding with the Russians about how to, number one, deal with Daesh and al-Nusrah. Al-Nusrah is the other group there – Jabhat al-Nusrah. They are a designated terrorist group by the United Nations. And there are a couple of subgroups underneath the two designated – Daesh and Jabhat al-Nusrah – Jaysh al-Islam, Ahrar al-Sham particularly – who brush off and fight with that – alongside these other two sometimes to fight the Assad regime.”



Thanks to @Walid970721 for the videos.


In one fell swoop, Kerry has demolished the US State Department argument for not targeting their pet killers in Syria. Is this a deliberate shoe in the face of the US and by default, Saudi interests and operatives in the region? Was it a genuine moment of honesty for the usually duplicitous and hypocritical Kerry?



The Washington Post reaction certainly seems to point to the latter as they swung into damage limitation mode:


“But then Kerry, perhaps accidentally, threw two other Syrian rebel groups under the bus by calling them “subgroups” of the terrorists.


“There are a couple of subgroups underneath the two designated — Daesh and Jabhat al-Nusra — Jaysh al-Islam, Ahrar al-Sham particularly — who brush off and fight with that — alongside these other two sometimes to fight the Assad regime,” he said, referring to two rebel groups that the United States has not named as terrorist groups until now…..


Two administration officials who work on Syria told me that Kerry’s naming of the Jaysh al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham as “subgroups” of the terrorist organizations was not only inaccurate but potentially harmful to U.S. government efforts to convince the Russians and the Syrian government not to attack them.


“For months, we’ve been arguing to make sure the Russians and the Syrian regime don’t equate these groups with the terrorists,” one senior administration official told me. “Kerry’s line yields that point.”


Another U.S. official simply emailed, “Baffled. SMH[Shaking my head].” ~ Washington Post


Probably unwittingly the author Josh Rogin ends the article on a comedic note:


“Kerry muddied the waters. That’s typically Moscow’s job.”


Perhaps we are seeing a genuine face saving exercise on behalf of the Americans under Russia’s tutelage and the Washington Post has not been informed?


Undeniably, among those responsible for muddying the water on the Syrian narrative and advocating the murder of its people are the western media who have formed a battalion of war harpies and sectarian propagandists intent upon facilitating the mass slaughter of the Syrian people in service of NATO’s oil and geo-political interests in Syria and the region.


Certainly Kerry’s “slip of the tongue” should not go unnoticed and should be used to remind the media of their accessory to murder when they are finally brought to justice for their role in the “dirty war on Syria”.
Of course we directly founded, funded, trained and equipped what is now called Isis that's the worse kept secret today.


Isis and it's end result should be a prime example of why non-intervention must become our foreign policy, especially regarding the Middle East.
Quote:Of course we directly founded, funded, trained and equipped what is now called Isis that's the worse kept secret today.


Isis and it's end result should be a prime example of why non-intervention must become our foreign policy, especially regarding the Middle East.
 

I'd prefer colonization. It's the only way to win the Civilization War once and for all.
Quote:I'd prefer colonization. It's the only way to win the Civilization War once and for all.

Who the hell wants to colonize the desert in the middle East? We don't even live in our own desert in Nevada?
Quote:Who the hell wants to colonize the desert in the middle East? We don't even live in our own desert in Nevada?
 

There's plenty of incentive to live there.
Quote:There's plenty of incentive to live there.
 

meh we've got enough problem defending our borders already, we have enough natural resources here, there's literally no reason to need to colonize anywhere else. without our funding they can hate us all they want they can't afford the rocks to through at our tanks much less do anything about it. 

 

when one does pop it's head up big enough to do something you declare war kill everything that moves and then go home. 
Quote:I'd prefer colonization. It's the only way to win the Civilization War once and for all.


Because life is just a big game of Risk and people like being conquered and forced to assimilate.
read this:

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/343813-syria-...pposition/

 

"Washington and its Western and Middle East allies cannot possibly designate Jaysh al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham as terrorist; otherwise it would be a self-indicting admission that the war in Syria is a foreign state-sponsored terrorist assault on a sovereign country."

 

we've become the bad guys. it's sad, and its time for real change.

the latest: https://www.rt.com/news/359565-us-delay-syria-truce/

 

US and Russia have negotiated a cease fire.  What do you know? The terrorist organizations are not cooperating, and the US refuses to label certain groups as terrorists, namely Ahrar al sham.

 

You should also note in this article they say that Ahrar al sham gets most funding from Qatar.  This is how the US is supporting them.  The US has given military aide to them through the Gulf states and Turkey. This explains the US reluctance to agree that they are a terrorist organization, indistinguishable from ISIS, because that implies the obvious; the US would be admitting that it has been working with terrorist groups in the Syrian conflict.

you will notice at 11:45 of this video, every single one of these independent journalists agrees that the idea of "moderate" rebels was a farce pushed by the White House and Pentagon.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpgTLd9oEzE

Let's get everybody up to speed on Syria:

 

http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/assads-death-warrant/

Quote:Let's get everybody up to speed on Syria:

 

http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/assads-death-warrant/
 

im a little upset that Bobby Jr works for a shill site like Politico

 

majority of people (conservatives and liberals alike) really are oblivious in this country about what's going on in Syria.  and like the article states, this is nothing really all that new.  our country continues to engage and ally with some pretty nasty customers.  our people should start to recognize this pattern and attempt to put a stop to it.  will they ever?  i guess not due to the mainstream propaganda machine in full swing.  we only know what we hear, see, or read.

 

the mainstream news does not find these topics worthy of discussion.  people simply just dont know about it. if they did, most rational people would not be on board.

fav line of that article:

 

"See how history is repeating itself? It’s like the CIA was too lazy to even write a new script, they just dusted off the old one and hired new actors."

From Bobby Kennedy Jr:

 

"Despite the prevailing media portrait of a moderate Arab uprising against the tyrant Assad, U.S. intelligence planners knew from the outset that their pipeline proxies were radical jihadists who would probably carve themselves a brand new Islamic caliphate from the Sunni regions of Syria and Iraq."