(11-24-2021, 05:36 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2021, 03:39 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Can we talk about why the county DA didn't want to prosecute originally? He was wrong for that, right?
You have to find some grievance, eh?
This case probably would not have become nationally known if the original prosecutor filed charges in a timely fashion. If the perps had been arrested right away, the story might have never become a viral social media thing.
(11-24-2021, 08:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2021, 05:36 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]You have to find some grievance, eh?
This case probably would not have become nationally known if the original prosecutor filed charges in a timely fashion. If the perps had been arrested right away, the story might have never become a viral social media thing.
3 white dudes murdered a black dude in redneckville Georgia. It was going viral no matter what because people have control and votes they need. Don't be ignorant.
Neighbor Convicted In Ahmaud Arbery Murder Will Seek New Trial, Says Attorney
An attorney for William “Roddie” Bryan — the neighbor who joined in the pursuit of Ahmaud Arbery before he was killed — said Wednesday afternoon that he will seek a new trial, following a jury’s decision to find his client guilty of felony murder.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/neighbor-...b4XbSCjnKE
The Justice System is on the mend.. The Jury got it right with Ahmaud and Kyle.
(11-24-2021, 07:40 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2021, 05:39 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]So, to be clear, you thought they weren't guilty based on what you know. They chased down a guy, assaulted him, then shot him when he tried to defend himself. Aubry is Rittenhouse is Aubry. It's the same case except this one actually put the right criminals on trial
I don't know if they were or not, I don't know enough about the facts. All I know, is that they did not get a fair trial. They were going to be found guilty NO MATTER WHAT... just like Chauvin...
What you "know" is not true if it is based on your opinion and facts not in evidence.
(11-24-2021, 07:40 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2021, 05:39 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]So, to be clear, you thought they weren't guilty based on what you know. They chased down a guy, assaulted him, then shot him when he tried to defend himself. Aubry is Rittenhouse is Aubry. It's the same case except this one actually put the right criminals on trial
I don't know if they were or not, I don't know enough about the facts. All I know, is that they did not get a fair trial. They were going to be found guilty NO MATTER WHAT... just like Chauvin...
I am SHOCKED you have this take.
Absolutely shocked.
The interesting thing is the guy taking the video. He was convicted on the least charges and some speculated that he might have got off, but he didn't. If he didn't take the video, they might have all escaped conviction.
(11-24-2021, 09:55 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2021, 07:40 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know if they were or not, I don't know enough about the facts. All I know, is that they did not get a fair trial. They were going to be found guilty NO MATTER WHAT... just like Chauvin...
What you "know" is not true if it is based on your opinion and facts not in evidence.
Ya, I better not disagree with you or you’ll ban me again. I’ll just add you with your buddies on my ignore list.
(11-24-2021, 10:28 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2021, 07:40 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know if they were or not, I don't know enough about the facts. All I know, is that they did not get a fair trial. They were going to be found guilty NO MATTER WHAT... just like Chauvin...
I am SHOCKED you have this take.
Absolutely shocked.
are you really shocked?
Have you not read anything from Ronster before?
This one to me always depended on what the laws in GA say. He was trespassing and breaking the law by entering the home. They say there were break-ins in the neighborhood. He was seen previously and was there frequently. He had a long history of crimes, I think even once before using the excuse he was jogging.
It doesn't sound like he stole anything in the house, not sure about the neighborhood. Originally they said they were trying to detain him but I saw something where one of them said they weren't threatened at any time. So they convicted themselves with the testimony. So if following or searching for someone that you suspect is a criminal is against the law, then they broke it. Stopping the truck to try to get him to stop didn't show anything, if they wanted to shoot him, they could have easily just done it while in the truck.
Then you have the fight. Unless something was said, they weren't threatening him other than them having guys which is legal in GA. So not sure why he turns towards the gun and then fights over it. There weren't any shots fired until the fight over the gun. So it all came down to who broke the law first.
I didn't follow the trial but it sounded like they really didn't try to put up any defense.
You have someone who is dead because he ran away and then fought for a gun. If you are just running or not breaking the law, just talk to them and the cops if necessary. Then you can deal with it afterwards and sue for money if it's a racist thing.
You have 3 people in jail for life because they didn't just follow him, although it does sound like they are racist or at least prejudice to think a crime was being committed. They also chose to get out of the truck and put themselves in harm's way.
Terrible choices all around by everyone. All the people involved probably had their lives shaped by a bunch of terrible choices impacted heavily by democrats.
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(11-24-2021, 11:41 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2021, 09:55 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]What you "know" is not true if it is based on your opinion and facts not in evidence.
Ya, I better not disagree with you or you’ll ban me again. I’ll just add you with your buddies on my ignore list.
You're wrong about that as well.
(11-25-2021, 05:40 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]This one to me always depended on what the laws in GA say. He was trespassing and breaking the law by entering the home. They say there were break-ins in the neighborhood. He was seen previously and was there frequently. He had a long history of crimes, I think even once before using the excuse he was jogging.
It doesn't sound like he stole anything in the house, not sure about the neighborhood. Originally they said they were trying to detain him but I saw something where one of them said they weren't threatened at any time. So they convicted themselves with the testimony. So if following or searching for someone that you suspect is a criminal is against the law, then they broke it. Stopping the truck to try to get him to stop didn't show anything, if they wanted to shoot him, they could have easily just done it while in the truck.
Then you have the fight. Unless something was said, they weren't threatening him other than them having guys which is legal in GA. So not sure why he turns towards the gun and then fights over it. There weren't any shots fired until the fight over the gun. So it all came down to who broke the law first.
I didn't follow the trial but it sounded like they really didn't try to put up any defense.
You have someone who is dead because he ran away and then fought for a gun. If you are just running or not breaking the law, just talk to them and the cops if necessary. Then you can deal with it afterwards and sue for money if it's a racist thing.
You have 3 people in jail for life because they didn't just follow him, although it does sound like they are racist or at least prejudice to think a crime was being committed. They also chose to get out of the truck and put themselves in harm's way.
Terrible choices all around by everyone. All the people involved probably had their lives shaped by a bunch of terrible choices impacted heavily by democrats.
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Yeah, it's always a good idea for a lone black guy to stop and talk to three white guys with guns who are chasing him through backwoods Georgia. That is always a safe thing to do. The chasers should've called the cops and followed at a distance AT MOST. Chasing him, trying to stop him, blocking his path, getting out of the trucks, and carrying their weapons while doing so all threatened the guy into a response. Then when he did the moron couldn't even protect his weapon and ended up killing the guy. The wanna pretend it was a "citizen's arrest" but we know it was far more sinister than that.
(11-25-2021, 09:10 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-25-2021, 05:40 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]This one to me always depended on what the laws in GA say. He was trespassing and breaking the law by entering the home. They say there were break-ins in the neighborhood. He was seen previously and was there frequently. He had a long history of crimes, I think even once before using the excuse he was jogging.
It doesn't sound like he stole anything in the house, not sure about the neighborhood. Originally they said they were trying to detain him but I saw something where one of them said they weren't threatened at any time. So they convicted themselves with the testimony. So if following or searching for someone that you suspect is a criminal is against the law, then they broke it. Stopping the truck to try to get him to stop didn't show anything, if they wanted to shoot him, they could have easily just done it while in the truck.
Then you have the fight. Unless something was said, they weren't threatening him other than them having guys which is legal in GA. So not sure why he turns towards the gun and then fights over it. There weren't any shots fired until the fight over the gun. So it all came down to who broke the law first.
I didn't follow the trial but it sounded like they really didn't try to put up any defense.
You have someone who is dead because he ran away and then fought for a gun. If you are just running or not breaking the law, just talk to them and the cops if necessary. Then you can deal with it afterwards and sue for money if it's a racist thing.
You have 3 people in jail for life because they didn't just follow him, although it does sound like they are racist or at least prejudice to think a crime was being committed. They also chose to get out of the truck and put themselves in harm's way.
Terrible choices all around by everyone. All the people involved probably had their lives shaped by a bunch of terrible choices impacted heavily by democrats.
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Yeah, it's always a good idea for a lone black guy to stop and talk to three white guys with guns who are chasing him through backwoods Georgia. That is always a safe thing to do. The chasers should've called the cops and followed at a distance AT MOST. Chasing him, trying to stop him, blocking his path, getting out of the trucks, and carrying their weapons while doing so all threatened the guy into a response. Then when he did the moron couldn't even protect his weapon and ended up killing the guy. The wanna pretend it was a "citizen's arrest" but we know it was far more sinister than that.
That whole "citizen's arrest" thing fell apart when, by the defendant's own testimony, they didn't know for sure he had committed a crime. You are only allowed to make a citizen's arrest if you actually see a crime occur. You cannot make a citizen's arrest on suspicion. A civilian cannot chase someone down and pull a gun on them with the intent of detaining them if all they have is suspicion.
Besides, the "citizen's arrest" idea didn't come up until the trial. They never told the police or anyone that they had been trying to make a citizen's arrest. Only at trial. So it was something their lawyers obviously cooked up.
(11-25-2021, 03:35 AM)captivating Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2021, 10:28 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]I am SHOCKED you have this take.
Absolutely shocked.
are you really shocked?
Have you not read anything from Ronster before?
Lol my man. There was so much sarcasm in my post.
Ronster is the worst and he has me blocked because he’s soft.
(11-25-2021, 08:54 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2021, 11:41 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Ya, I better not disagree with you or you’ll ban me again. I’ll just add you with your buddies on my ignore list.
You're wrong about that as well.
Welcome to the club!
Rico and I will be sending you your official badge and welcome packet!
People need to mind your own business. Now these guys leave their families behind and get to sit 23 hours in a room as big as a bathroom for most of their lives. Then you have a young man who had a horrible death laying in the 90 degrees pavement with a shot gun blast. This was atrocious. Stupid people. Hopefully other stupid people learn from this.
(11-24-2021, 03:33 PM)JagsorDie Wrote: [ -> ]They got this one absolutely right. One thing I was a little confused about was the charges of felony murder and murder with malice. maybe someone on here can answer this , but what are those in relation to first and second-degree murder? I guess I’ve never heard those charges worded exactly that way. And seeing as how it was one person was killed how do you get three charges of felony murder? Probably a simple explanation but again I just haven’t heard it worded in that manner.
The reason for the 4 counts of murder is because in Georgia you catch a murder charge for every felony crime committed leading up to the actual murder. So the false imprisonment, 2 counts of aggravated assault, and criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment all have felony murder attached because all of the felonies lead to the murder. Worse for them, since they have all been convicted of murder, according to Georgia’s minimum mandatory laws they face a minimum of 30 years before they’re able to be paroled.
(11-25-2021, 06:20 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ] (11-24-2021, 03:33 PM)JagsorDie Wrote: [ -> ]They got this one absolutely right. One thing I was a little confused about was the charges of felony murder and murder with malice. maybe someone on here can answer this , but what are those in relation to first and second-degree murder? I guess I’ve never heard those charges worded exactly that way. And seeing as how it was one person was killed how do you get three charges of felony murder? Probably a simple explanation but again I just haven’t heard it worded in that manner.
The reason for the 4 counts of murder is because in Georgia you catch a murder charge for every felony crime committed leading up to the actual murder. So the false imprisonment, 2 counts of aggravated assault, and criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment all have felony murder attached because all of the felonies lead to the murder. Worse for them, since they have all been convicted of murder, according to Georgia’s minimum mandatory laws they face a minimum of 30 years before they’re able to be paroled.
I haven't looked at false imprisonment law in GA but from a common sense standpoint it makes no sense. He was never trapped, never even had to leave the road. He could have easily run off the road to get away. His path wasn't blocked either.
I know DAs over charge and the laws are written strangely though so maybe something fit the wording.
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(11-25-2021, 10:38 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (11-25-2021, 06:20 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]The reason for the 4 counts of murder is because in Georgia you catch a murder charge for every felony crime committed leading up to the actual murder. So the false imprisonment, 2 counts of aggravated assault, and criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment all have felony murder attached because all of the felonies lead to the murder. Worse for them, since they have all been convicted of murder, according to Georgia’s minimum mandatory laws they face a minimum of 30 years before they’re able to be paroled.
I haven't looked at false imprisonment law in GA but from a common sense standpoint it makes no sense. He was never trapped, never even had to leave the road. He could have easily run off the road to get away. His path wasn't blocked either.
I know DAs over charge and the laws are written strangely though so maybe something fit the wording.
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"Attempted" is the key word. Also they blocked him and attempted to block him on the road several times, they chased him for more than 5 minutes around the neighborhood. When he was shot he was surrounded ahead and behind by their trucks. Everything those morons were charged with they actually did.