(05-04-2022, 09:23 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (05-04-2022, 08:07 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Gardner wasn't even the first corner taken
...so you're saying we should laugh at the tinhorns?
OK, you're the boss.
LOL tinhorns
Not saying that, it wouldn't shock me if Stingley turned out to be the best corner in this draft. I like Gardner and Stingley both alot. 2 of the best corners to come out in a while imo.
(05-03-2022, 07:25 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]1,891 snaps at DE for Hutchinson in his time at Michigan. 17.5 sacks, 27.5 TFL in 4 seasons.
"Walker played 200 snaps as a backup in 2020, per Pro Football Focus. He had 37 of his career 65 college tackles last season. As a junior, he played 381 snaps at defensive end, 105 at defensive tackle, 98 at linebacker, 11 at nose guard and one as a cornerback, according to the NFL Network."
Can't find his snap count as a freshman for whatever reason, but based on the stats above it's pretty safe to assume he's played close to half as much football as Aidan Hutchinson, And on top of that he was not rushing the passer 100% of the time like Aidan was.
Yet, 17.5 sacks in nearly 2,000 snaps is "production" whilst 9.5 in what I would assume to be somewhere in the range of 500-700 snaps of rushing the passer, presumably less than that even looking at how Georgia played defense is considered "not producing"
It took Aidan Hutchinson 22 games to get 3.5 sacks as a pure pass rushing DE. It took Travon 29 games to get 9.5, whilst being a backup in each of his first two seasons and only just this year being a starter whilst also not rushing the passer 100% of the time.
Hutchinson had one good year stats wise, How is this a sure fire pick? I think we made the correct choice here.
To this I Concur. Not to mention the fact that Walker is So Much Better against the run and he can drop back into pass coverage Much Better as well. That's 3 for Walker and 1 for Hutch. Walker will be the better overall NFL player going forward.
Time Will Tell.
NH3...
This might have been posted before, if so apologies. Don't know who "Coach Williams" is but he pointed out a couple of things I didn't notice and I think it shows why Baalke decided to take him #1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh0yVwCa-1o
(05-04-2022, 07:05 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]This might have been posted before, if so apologies. Don't know who "Coach Williams" is but he pointed out a couple of things I didn't notice and I think it shows why Baalke decided to take him #1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh0yVwCa-1o
Nice video !!!
I found this on Coach Williams ...... Hi, I'm Coach Williams. A former Division 1 Ballhawk and current Division 3 College Football Coach.
(05-04-2022, 07:05 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]This might have been posted before, if so apologies. Don't know who "Coach Williams" is but he pointed out a couple of things I didn't notice and I think it shows why Baalke decided to take him #1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh0yVwCa-1o
Really nice analysis. Thank you. Maybe, just maybe, some will be able to stop hyperventilating over this pick after watching it.
(05-04-2022, 08:29 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-04-2022, 07:05 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]This might have been posted before, if so apologies. Don't know who "Coach Williams" is but he pointed out a couple of things I didn't notice and I think it shows why Baalke decided to take him #1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh0yVwCa-1o
Really nice analysis. Thank you. Maybe, just maybe, some will be able to stop hyperventilating over this pick after watching it.
Yeah the explosiveness is what really caught my eye. Dude has some incredible twitch for 270.
(05-04-2022, 07:05 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]This might have been posted before, if so apologies. Don't know who "Coach Williams" is but he pointed out a couple of things I didn't notice and I think it shows why Baalke decided to take him #1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh0yVwCa-1o
Nice! Can't wait to see it in teal!
(05-04-2022, 08:46 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ] (05-04-2022, 07:05 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]This might have been posted before, if so apologies. Don't know who "Coach Williams" is but he pointed out a couple of things I didn't notice and I think it shows why Baalke decided to take him #1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh0yVwCa-1o
Nice! Can't wait to see it in teal!
Sweet video!
I don't play Madden anymore, but a few years back I did and something myself and a lot of people used to do was take your fastest Dl/Pass rusher and put them in QB Spy if the opponent was running vick/lamar etc. Kinda reminds me of how they used Walker at Georgia lol
(05-04-2022, 07:05 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]This might have been posted before, if so apologies. Don't know who "Coach Williams" is but he pointed out a couple of things I didn't notice and I think it shows why Baalke decided to take him #1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh0yVwCa-1o
This is exactly why we drafted Walker first overall.
NH3...
I mentioned this before the draft and Pederson mentioned it yesterday in an interview, but I really think the decision came down to scheme fit and how Campbell envisioned using Walker. Once Doug and Trent signed off on that and sold Khan on it... easy decision.
Versatility, athleticism, and scheme combined slid Walker above Hutch in value.
If he doesn't have 15 sacks in a single year by year 3 he's a bust.
(05-05-2022, 11:44 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]If he doesn't have 15 sacks in a single year by year 3 he's a bust.
wut?
(05-05-2022, 11:44 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]If he doesn't have 15 sacks in a single year by year 3 he's a bust.
Total Bust. Since he'll likely be dropping back into pass coverage, I'm going to require 15 sacks + at least 3 ints in a single season. After all, the dude did play CB back in college. I'm thinking of 12 sacks and 2 ints per season through his initial 5 years then sign him to a long term contract for something like +5 years for a total of $40 million ($8m/year) or something like that.
(05-04-2022, 08:33 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (05-04-2022, 08:29 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Really nice analysis. Thank you. Maybe, just maybe, some will be able to stop hyperventilating over this pick after watching it.
Yeah the explosiveness is what really caught my eye. Dude has some incredible twitch for 270.
I'm done hyperventilating. I think his floor is much higher than I anticipated. He won't be a bust.
I hope to see Lloyd lined up outside a lot this season to minimize Chaisson and get Muma on the field more. Cisco needs to be starting, too. The young guns need to play.
(05-05-2022, 12:34 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ]I hope to see Lloyd lined up outside a lot this season to minimize Chaisson and get Muma on the field more. Cisco needs to be starting, too. The young guns need to play.
I think on passing downs we'll be seeing a lot of Muma and Foye at ILB, Lloyd and Allen on the EDGEs, with Walker and Smoot at DE and Key at NT. There will probably be some growing pains with a lot of inexperience on the field, but with some developing it could be a very good pass rushing front 7.
(05-05-2022, 11:44 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]If he doesn't have 15 sacks in a single year by year 3 he's a bust.
14 sacks..... BUST!
1st overall pick.
Not 10th, not 2nd, not 5th
1st overall. If he's not utterly dominating LTs consistently he's a bust.
Yikes, I thought he was being sarcastic the first time.
There's a not big but also not small chance that Walker doesn't have 15 sacks total through 3 years.