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(05-08-2022, 11:22 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-05-2022, 06:58 AM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]Good.  Glad he did.  Ramsey is a narcissistic lowlife who didn't deserve to wear the teal.  Coughlin's hardtail stance exposed Ramsey for what he is:  a me-centered, lying, overrated man-child.  If Caldwell hadn't been a complete dunce at drafting, we wouldn't still be having this discussion.

His hardtail stance exposed Ramsey? So him paying our trash can of a quarterback money after a season in which the defense did all the work was a hardtail stance? Or was it complete ignorance? Jalen was the key for the only success we've had in nearly 15 years and Coughlin decided to extend Blake Bortles who was already a liability by this point. Meanwhile guys like Jalen and Yannick we're completely overlooked for extensions or pay raises if you will. 

Not only did that complete moron completely disrespect the good young players on our team, he completely set us backwards even prior to the 2017 season by taking Leonard Fournette over Deshaun Watson or Mahomes.. ofcourse this could also have been some of Caldwells doing based on the fact that he didn't want to give up on the QB he drafted, but either way whomever made that mistake cost us big time. Had the defense remained the same with the addition of either of those 2 qbs I think it's safe to assume we probably would have had an even better record and likely a superbowl win to our name. We would more than likely also still have guys like Yannick, Jalen etc on our team as cornerstones. 

But sure, let's praise the guy because he was a decent coach 20+ years ago.. Completely forget that he got fired for ruining our cap position back then (shocker, makes poor decisions paying his players) and pretend like he's some legend. He ruined our team, end of story.


I think it's absolutely histerical how nobody trashes Coughlin/Caldwell for taking Fournette in the top 10, but absolutely crapped all over Balke/Urban for taking ETN (who tbh with you, is a better prospect than Fournette was) at 25. Such a short seighted group of people on this board I swear.

Oh and let's not forget the future HOF selection of Taven Bryan. Thanks Tom

You know, you were hitting it out of the park right up to this point. Fournette was a detested pick. Everybody trashes them both for that pick.
(05-05-2022, 08:06 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-05-2022, 06:58 AM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]Good.  Glad he did.  Ramsey is a narcissistic lowlife who didn't deserve to wear the teal.  Coughlin's hardtail stance exposed Ramsey for what he is:  a me-centered, lying, overrated man-child.  If Caldwell hadn't been a complete dunce at drafting, we wouldn't still be having this discussion.

What the heck does that mean?  He didn't deserve to wear the colors of a team that finished in last place 2 years in a row but he does deserve to wear the colors of the team winning the Super Bowl?  I don't quite understand what your comment means.

Really doesn’t meant anything, scum bags win titles all the time.. I love the quote “If Hannibal Lector could run a 4.3 they’d say he has an eating disorder.” Fact is Ramsey is a great football player, but also a piece of [BLEEP].
Whatever "culture" means, Calais Campbell was it. He is one of the best "lead by example" and "culture" guys the Jaguars have ever had. Campbell played the entire 2019 season. Ramsey wanted out after two games in 2019. Ramsey wanting out had nothing to do with the presence or absence of "culture."
(05-08-2022, 11:22 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-05-2022, 06:58 AM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]Good.  Glad he did.  Ramsey is a narcissistic lowlife who didn't deserve to wear the teal.  Coughlin's hardtail stance exposed Ramsey for what he is:  a me-centered, lying, overrated man-child.  If Caldwell hadn't been a complete dunce at drafting, we wouldn't still be having this discussion.

His hardtail stance exposed Ramsey? So him paying our trash can of a quarterback money after a season in which the defense did all the work was a hardtail stance? Or was it complete ignorance? Jalen was the key for the only success we've had in nearly 15 years and Coughlin decided to extend Blake Bortles who was already a liability by this point. Meanwhile guys like Jalen and Yannick we're completely overlooked for extensions or pay raises if you will. 

Not only did that complete moron completely disrespect the good young players on our team, he completely set us backwards even prior to the 2017 season by taking Leonard Fournette over Deshaun Watson or Mahomes.. ofcourse this could also have been some of Caldwells doing based on the fact that he didn't want to give up on the QB he drafted, but either way whomever made that mistake cost us big time. Had the defense remained the same with the addition of either of those 2 qbs I think it's safe to assume we probably would have had an even better record and likely a superbowl win to our name. We would more than likely also still have guys like Yannick, Jalen etc on our team as cornerstones. 

But sure, let's praise the guy because he was a decent coach 20+ years ago.. Completely forget that he got fired for ruining our cap position back then (shocker, makes poor decisions paying his players) and pretend like he's some legend. He ruined our team, end of story.


I think it's absolutely histerical how nobody trashes Coughlin/Caldwell for taking Fournette in the top 10, but absolutely crapped all over Balke/Urban for taking ETN (who tbh with you, is a better prospect than Fournette was) at 25. Such a short seighted group of people on this board I swear.

Oh and let's not forget the future HOF selection of Taven Bryan. Thanks Tom

Yawn wasn't completely overlooked for an extension.  We actually offered him much more than he was worth, he hasnt gotten a contract close to what we offered.  Yawn and his agent way over valued his worth, he got some of the worst advice from his agent in NFL history.  He lost almost 40 mil and he fired his agent not long after realizing the mistake.  He has been bounced around like a ping pong ball since.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/...0R1aSKgCGQ
Ramsey didn't get overlooked either. They were going to make him the highest paid corner. He got his panties in a bunch and his little feelings hurt when the had a meeting with him about cursing out Doug on the sidelines. 2 1sts and a 4th were highway robbery for Jalen we just had clueless people in the office making the picks
(05-09-2022, 02:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever "culture" means, Calais Campbell was it.  He is one of the best "lead by example" and "culture" guys the Jaguars have ever had.  Campbell played the entire 2019 season.  

I recall TheMadDog wanting Calais at the end of round 1 (pick #28) of the 2008 draft and people like Alfie continually arguing how much better Derrick Harvey was as he supported every move that our GMs through the Shack and Gene Smith era.   We ended up trading pick #28 and two 3rd round picks to move up to #8 to get Harvey.   Harvey ultimately lost his starting job to 5th rounder Austin Lane .... seriously, that's how bad we really were are.
There wouldn't be much of an issue if they didn't suck..
(05-09-2022, 01:31 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-05-2022, 08:06 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]What the heck does that mean?  He didn't deserve to wear the colors of a team that finished in last place 2 years in a row but he does deserve to wear the colors of the team winning the Super Bowl?  I don't quite understand what your comment means.

Really doesn’t meant anything, scum bags win titles all the time.. I love the quote “If Hannibal Lector could run a 4.3 they’d say he has an eating disorder.” Fact is Ramsey is a great football player, but also a piece of [BLEEP].

"football is not a game for the well-adjusted." ask Vic liked to say.
(05-09-2022, 10:01 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]I love when people keep spouting "Culture" as if it means anything.

Explain culture now. Explain it and how to create it cultivate it. Now. Do it.

You can't because it's a [BLEEP] word like synergy.

I can help to explain the word Culture. heres a link!!!!


https://blogs.usafootball.com/blog/7557/what-is-culture
(05-10-2022, 08:44 AM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-09-2022, 10:01 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]I love when people keep spouting "Culture" as if it means anything.

Explain culture now. Explain it and how to create it cultivate it. Now. Do it.

You can't because it's a [BLEEP] word like synergy.

I can help to explain the word Culture. heres a link!!!!


https://blogs.usafootball.com/blog/7557/what-is-culture

I half expected the link to point to a definition of cutlery
(Sorry snowy, I had to)
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