DOJ Establishes ‘Office Of Environmental Justice’
The Department of Justice is establishing a new “Office of Environmental Justice.”
Attorney General
Merrick Garland made the announcement at a press conference with EPA Administrator Michael Regan Thursday. Garland said that the new office, which will also be known by the initialism OEJ, would “oversee and help guide the Justice Department’s wide-ranging environmental justice efforts.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/doj-estab...BaNlDipr4Q
One of their first actions should be to ban and fell all Redwoods, cause they are so much taller than everyone else, and we cant have one tree placed above another. At least GMO them so that in the future they only grow a maximum of 40 feet.
(05-06-2022, 02:33 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]One of their first actions should be to ban and fell all Redwoods, cause they are so much taller than everyone else, and we cant have one tree placed above another. At least GMO them so that in the future they only grow a maximum of 40 feet.
We're not allowed to call them "red"woods anymore. They are indigenous lumber species.
(05-06-2022, 02:33 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]One of their first actions should be to ban and fell all Redwoods, cause they are so much taller than everyone else, and we cant have one tree placed above another. At least GMO them so that in the future they only grow a maximum of 40 feet.
Reminds me of a classic Rush song, “The Trees”. Awesome metaphor for anyone willing to listen.
(05-06-2022, 02:33 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]One of their first actions should be to ban and fell all Redwoods, cause they are so much taller than everyone else, and we cant have one tree placed above another. At least GMO them so that in the future they only grow a maximum of 40 feet.
(05-07-2022, 04:18 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2022, 02:33 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]One of their first actions should be to ban and fell all Redwoods, cause they are so much taller than everyone else, and we cant have one tree placed above another. At least GMO them so that in the future they only grow a maximum of 40 feet.
We're not allowed to call them "red"woods anymore. They are indigenous lumber species.
I wish progressives understood how easy this is. You guys are only mocking, but this is the application of critical theory in a nutshell. Wokeness is one of the most asinine things ever to be taken seriously.
(05-07-2022, 10:29 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2022, 02:33 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]One of their first actions should be to ban and fell all Redwoods, cause they are so much taller than everyone else, and we cant have one tree placed above another. At least GMO them so that in the future they only grow a maximum of 40 feet.
(05-07-2022, 04:18 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]We're not allowed to call them "red"woods anymore. They are indigenous lumber species.
I wish progressives understood how easy this is. You guys are only mocking, but this is the application of critical theory in a nutshell. Wokeness is one of the most asinine things ever to be taken seriously.
Pepperidge farm remembers when it was called political correctness and Rush Limbaugh would spend a good portion of each show making up new ridiculous examples.
"Don't say short, say vertically challenged"
"Don't say native, say indigenous"
Etc.
That was 30 years ago.
He was right. Political correctness was the vehicle that brought us here.
(05-08-2022, 07:36 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]He was right. Political correctness was the vehicle that brought us here.
"Wokeness" is political correctness at a hysterical level.
Political correctness is simply changing vocabulary in ways that are supposedly more sensitive. It's usually ridiculous but harmless.
Good Wokeness is being aware of our colonial and slaveholding past, and being aware of how it has lasting impacts that we need to be aware of and work on. Good Wokeness means you understand that, despite your own ancestors' positive experiences as immigrants in places like New York City in the 20th century, the United States will never have a European or even Canadian social model from sea to shining sea. Our colonial and slaveholding past makes that impossible.
But bad Wokeness is blaming people who weren't alive then for what happened. Bad Wokeness is when we toured Kingsley Plantation in 3rd grade and one of the Black girls in class told every white kid that their ancestors lived in the plantation house while hers lived in the tabby house. Bad Wokeness is also insisting that your way is only one way to address the lasting impacts.
One of the few things I heard Limbaugh say was this: "When they tell you what you have to say, just say 'who the hell are you?'"
(05-08-2022, 12:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Political correctness is simply changing vocabulary in ways that are supposedly more sensitive. It's usually ridiculous but harmless.
Good Wokeness is being aware of our colonial and slaveholding past, and being aware of how it has lasting impacts that we need to be aware of and work on. Good Wokeness means you understand that, despite your own ancestors' positive experiences as immigrants in places like New York City in the 20th century, the United States will never have a European or even Canadian social model from sea to shining sea. Our colonial and slaveholding past makes that impossible.
But bad Wokeness is blaming people who weren't alive then for what happened. Bad Wokeness is when we toured Kingsley Plantation in 3rd grade and one of the Black girls in class told every white kid that their ancestors lived in the plantation house while hers lived in the tabby house. Bad Wokeness is also insisting that your way is only one way to address the lasting impacts.
In other words, Critical Race Theory is just bad "Wokeness".
(05-08-2022, 02:04 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (05-08-2022, 12:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Political correctness is simply changing vocabulary in ways that are supposedly more sensitive. It's usually ridiculous but harmless.
Good Wokeness is being aware of our colonial and slaveholding past, and being aware of how it has lasting impacts that we need to be aware of and work on. Good Wokeness means you understand that, despite your own ancestors' positive experiences as immigrants in places like New York City in the 20th century, the United States will never have a European or even Canadian social model from sea to shining sea. Our colonial and slaveholding past makes that impossible.
But bad Wokeness is blaming people who weren't alive then for what happened. Bad Wokeness is when we toured Kingsley Plantation in 3rd grade and one of the Black girls in class told every white kid that their ancestors lived in the plantation house while hers lived in the tabby house. Bad Wokeness is also insisting that your way is only one way to address the lasting impacts.
In other words, Critical Race Theory is just bad "Wokeness".
That's part of it. The law Florida recently passed defines CRT that way. And it's a good law. We shouldn't make people feel bad just because their ancestors owned slaves.
But Critical Race Theory also has some positive implications to what is happening today as we enforce laws that were written yesterday.
Consider zero tolerance in schools. When a principal discovers drugs, and knows they belong to a middle class white kid who usually doesn't give him any problems, he might discreetly dispose of the drugs and privately tell the student not to let it happen again. Officially, there were no drugs. But when he discovers drugs and they belong to a black kid from a poor family that's always getting in fights and has bad grades, he probably tells the cops.
Is the zero tolerance policy racist? No, on its face it doesn't consider race at all. Was the principal racist? Not necessarily, there were more differences between the two kids than just race.
Critical theory simply points out that the zero tolerance policy was written by people who are highly respected and connected in society and who envision their own kids as receiving discretion and grace if anything bad happens. Critical race Theory takes it a step further and says these highly respected and connected people are always white people, and we know that isn't true. They're definitely rich, but not necessarily white.
All that said, it's a law school course, not a high school course.
(05-08-2022, 12:18 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]One of the few things I heard Limbaugh say was this: "When they tell you what you have to say, just say 'who the hell are you?'"
I actually read this in Rush's voice..
(05-08-2022, 12:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Political correctness is simply changing vocabulary in ways that are supposedly more sensitive. It's usually ridiculous but harmless.
Good Wokeness is being aware of our colonial and slaveholding past, and being aware of how it has lasting impacts that we need to be aware of and work on. Good Wokeness means you understand that, despite your own ancestors' positive experiences as immigrants in places like New York City in the 20th century, the United States will never have a European or even Canadian social model from sea to shining sea. Our colonial and slaveholding past makes that impossible.
But bad Wokeness is blaming people who weren't alive then for what happened. Bad Wokeness is when we toured Kingsley Plantation in 3rd grade and one of the Black girls in class told every white kid that their ancestors lived in the plantation house while hers lived in the tabby house. Bad Wokeness is also insisting that your way is only one way to address the lasting impacts.
There's no such thing as "good" woke or "bad" woke.
(05-08-2022, 06:17 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (05-08-2022, 12:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Political correctness is simply changing vocabulary in ways that are supposedly more sensitive. It's usually ridiculous but harmless.
Good Wokeness is being aware of our colonial and slaveholding past, and being aware of how it has lasting impacts that we need to be aware of and work on. Good Wokeness means you understand that, despite your own ancestors' positive experiences as immigrants in places like New York City in the 20th century, the United States will never have a European or even Canadian social model from sea to shining sea. Our colonial and slaveholding past makes that impossible.
But bad Wokeness is blaming people who weren't alive then for what happened. Bad Wokeness is when we toured Kingsley Plantation in 3rd grade and one of the Black girls in class told every white kid that their ancestors lived in the plantation house while hers lived in the tabby house. Bad Wokeness is also insisting that your way is only one way to address the lasting impacts.
There's no such thing as "good" woke or "bad" woke.
Is it bad to be aware of our slaveholding and colonial past, a past we do not share with Europe?
That's not woke. That's called basic education. Stop using their slang. It's a religion. Wokeness is a form of baptism into the cult.
Also, what do you mean we don't share it with Europe? Maybe you should try woking yourself.
(05-08-2022, 08:16 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]That's not woke. That's called basic education. Stop using their slang. It's a religion. Wokeness is a form of baptism into the cult.
Also, what do you mean we don't share it with Europe? Maybe you should try woking yourself.
European countries were the colonizers, not the colonized.
And you have to go back about 1800 years to the middle Roman Empire to find slavery in Europe. American history is a bit different.
(05-08-2022, 08:01 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-08-2022, 06:17 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]There's no such thing as "good" woke or "bad" woke.
Is it bad to be aware of our slaveholding and colonial past, a past we do not share with Europe?
(05-08-2022, 08:29 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (05-08-2022, 08:16 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]That's not woke. That's called basic education. Stop using their slang. It's a religion. Wokeness is a form of baptism into the cult.
Also, what do you mean we don't share it with Europe? Maybe you should try woking yourself.
European countries were the colonizers, not the colonized.
And you have to go back about 1800 years to the middle Roman Empire to find slavery in Europe. American history is a bit different.
There was always slaves. It doesn't matter what country, every one has always sold or forced the conquered lands into slavery. African tribes were selling their neighboring tribes instead of killing them or using them as their own slaves.
Europe was also benefiting from the slave trade to America. Do you think the boats all came from Africa or America? Did the boats sail themselves? Europe was getting slaves or using them. Sure they didn't have a need for them like the large land owners in America did but don't claim like Europe moved past its slave history long ago.
That also doesn't affect anything today. The only thing you could claim is that the slave owners had a little more money than if they would have had to pay wages. They probably would have just passed the extra cost on to consumers though so it wouldn't have effected anything in the long run.
The one thing that is a fact is that democrats destroyed the black community and their black owned businesses since desegregation. Black people had no choice but to shop at black owned businesses and the businesses should still exist today. I'm not sure why most of them disappeared around the same time the black family and community also were destroyed.
What could it be that happened that setup a perpetual cycle that keeps people in poverty? You want to talk about CRT, let's call out things that happened in the last 100 years before we start going back hundreds of years saying it causes what is happening today.
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(05-08-2022, 09:06 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (05-08-2022, 08:01 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Is it bad to be aware of our slaveholding and colonial past, a past we do not share with Europe?
(05-08-2022, 08:29 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]European countries were the colonizers, not the colonized.
And you have to go back about 1800 years to the middle Roman Empire to find slavery in Europe. American history is a bit different.
There was always slaves. It doesn't matter what country, every one has always sold or forced the conquered lands into slavery. African tribes were selling their neighboring tribes instead of killing them or using them as their own slaves.
Europe was also benefiting from the slave trade to America. Do you think the boats all came from Africa or America? Did the boats sail themselves? Europe was getting slaves or using them. Sure they didn't have a need for them like the large land owners in America did but don't claim like Europe moved past its slave history long ago.
That also doesn't affect anything today. The only thing you could claim is that the slave owners had a little more money than if they would have had to pay wages. They probably would have just passed the extra cost on to consumers though so it wouldn't have effected anything in the long run.
The one thing that is a fact is that democrats destroyed the black community and their black owned businesses since desegregation. Black people had no choice but to shop at black owned businesses and the businesses should still exist today. I'm not sure why most of them disappeared around the same time the black family and community also were destroyed.
What could it be that happened that setup a perpetual cycle that keeps people in poverty? You want to talk about CRT, let's call out things that happened in the last 100 years before we start going back hundreds of years saying it causes what is happening today.
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Sure they benefitted from slavery. A lot of the plantation owners in the Caribbean only stayed a few years, then went back to Europe to enjoy the wealth they accumulated.
And regular Europeans got cheap sugar and coffee out of the deal.
That doesn't mean it changed the basic structure of their society, though. The French Revolution touched on slavery in Haiti, but 99% of the French Revolution had nothing to do with slavery. Slavery had nothing at all to with the 1848 revolutions. Then when the Europeans start colonizing Africa, a lot of it is justified as them trying to end African-on-African slavery, but again, their ill-gotten gains in that area did not really change their societies. It changed Africa drastically. But it didn't change Europe much.
What you say about America could use a little more critical thinking. Then end of segregation has hurt things like HBCUs and Black-owned restaurants and corner stores, but, segregation didn't just happen. And Black people didn't ask for segregation. It was a harm inflicted on them by government, which continues to have impacts on generational wealth and all sorts of other metrics.
I absolutely agree welfare is often a poverty trap, rather than a lift out of poverty, and I agree that's something we can work on. We are working with an employee of my wife, who has gotten some welfare recently, but also got a raise last year. We are finding out that this raise is actually hurting her. She used to qualify for a subsidized apartment, now she doesn't. Her kids used to qualify for Chip, now they don't. The increased rent and health insurance mean she was better off not getting a raise. How messed up is that?
Let's work on that and stop race-baiting each other, shall we?