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Lol

Seems a fair ranking for Bortles.

 

The one I don't get is Winston. Top 10? No way.

Nothing to LOL about.  He was complimentary of Bortles in the blurb beneath where he had him ranked.  Perhaps he masters the subtler parts of the game this season.  What helps Bortles as far as Fantasy Football value is that we're loaded with weapons, but that's not what he's ranking QBs on.

 

At the end, it's just one man's opinion.  Opinions can be wrong.

You could question the Winston and Mariota rankings though.

Quote:You could question the Winston and Mariota rankings though.

The "lol" was about these two. I think Winston is/will be very good. But to rank them above Blake, Carr, Dalton, etc right now is a joke. Especially Mariota

Mariota has a quick release, can throw to a spot within 15 yards downfield, and can run around a little. Aside from that he's garbage.

I did my own...

1. Tom Brady
   
   
2. Aaron Rodgers
   
   
3. Russell Wilson
   
   
4. Cam Newton
   
   
5. Ben Roethlisberger
   
   
6. Drew Brees
   
   
7. Carson Palmer
   
   
8. Phillip Rivers
   
   
9. Andrew Luck
   
   
10. Matthew Stafford
    
    
11. Derek Carr
    
    
12. Blake Bortles
    
    
13. Joe Flacco
    
    
14. Jameis Winston
    
    
15. Jay Cutler
    
    
16. Eli Manning
    
    
17. Ryan Tannehill
    
    
18. Matt Ryan
    
    
19. Sam Bradford
    
    
20. Kirk Cousins
    
    
21. Alex Smith
    
    
22. Andy Dalton
    
    
23. Tyrod Taylor
    
    
24. Brock Osweiler
    
    
25. Ryan Fitzpatrick
    
    
26. Marcus Mariota
    
    
27. Blaine Gabbert
    
    
28. Case Keenum
    
    
29. Robert Griffin III
    
    
30. Trevor Siemian
    
    
31. Dak Prescott
    
    
32. Carson Wentz
    
    
33. Jimmy Garoppolo
    
    

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I did my own...


 

1. Tom Brady
   
   
2. Aaron Rodgers
   
   
3. Russell Wilson
   
   
4. Cam Newton
   
   
5. Ben Roethlisberger
   
   
6. Drew Brees
   
   
7. Carson Palmer
   
   
8. Phillip Rivers
   
   
9. Andrew Luck
   
   
10. Matthew Stafford
    
    
11. Derek Carr
    
    
12. Blake Bortles
    
    
13. Joe Flacco
    
    
14. Jameis Winston
    
    
15. Jay Cutler
    
    
16. Eli Manning
    
    
17. Ryan Tannehill
    
    
18. Matt Ryan
    
    
19. Sam Bradford
    
    
20. Kirk Cousins
    
    
21. Alex Smith
    
    
22. Andy Dalton
    
    
23. Tyrod Taylor
    
    
24. Brock Osweiler
    
    
25. Ryan Fitzpatrick
    
    
26. Marcus Mariota
    
    
27. Blaine Gabbert
    
    
28. Case Keenum
    
    
29. Robert Griffin III
    
    
30. Trevor Siemian
    
    
31. Dak Prescott
    
    
32. Carson Wentz
    
    
33. Jimmy Garoppolo
    
    

 

 

Now this made me LOL.

Winston, Mariota, and Ryan in front of bortles??? Hahahahahaha!

Quote:Winston, Mariota, and Ryan in front of bortles??? Hahahahahaha!

Yeah it really is a head scratcher. He has the same mindset some here have, he will regress. With the weapons we have and the defense getting our offense the ball more.. I don't see how you can draw that conclusion unless you think Blake outplayed his stat line, and hes not that good. 

What's wrong with having Mariota ahead of Bortles? Mariota has a much quicker release, throws a beautiful spiral, has better ball placement, and is far more dangerous when running. Blake's side of the ledger has a season of inefficient stat compiling, and probably more durability.

 

They both need to and are capable of taking the next step, but you don't have to squint very hard to envision Mariota being better equipped to take that step. 

 

I would pretty much guarantee if you switched teams and gave Mariota Arob, Hurns, and Julius while giving Blake Kendall Wright, Rishard Matthews, and Delanie Walker the opinions would be unanimously in Mariota's favor. 

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I did my own...

1. Tom Brady
   
   
2. Aaron Rodgers
   
   
3. Russell Wilson
   
   
4. Cam Newton
   
   
5. Ben Roethlisberger
   
   
6. Drew Brees
   
   
7. Carson Palmer
   
   
8. Phillip Rivers
   
   
9. Andrew Luck
   
   
10. Matthew Stafford
    
    
11. Derek Carr
    
    
12. Blake Bortles
    
    
13. Joe Flacco
    
    
14. Jameis Winston
    
    
15. Jay Cutler
    
    
16. Eli Manning
    
    
17. Ryan Tannehill
    
    
18. Matt Ryan
    
    
19. Sam Bradford
    
    
20. Kirk Cousins
    
    
21. Alex Smith
    
    
22. Andy Dalton
    
    
23. Tyrod Taylor
    
    
24. Brock Osweiler
    
    
25. Ryan Fitzpatrick
    
    
26. Marcus Mariota
    
    
27. Blaine Gabbert
    
    
28. Case Keenum
    
    
29. Robert Griffin III
    
    
30. Trevor Siemian
    
    
31. Dak Prescott
    
    
32. Carson Wentz
    
    
33. Jimmy Garoppolo
    
    

 

Jay Cutler too high. Ask Stephen A Smith lol

Quote:What's wrong with having Mariota ahead of Bortles? Mariota has a much quicker release, throws a beautiful spiral, has better ball placement, and is far more dangerous when running. Blake's side of the ledger has a season of inefficient stat compiling, and probably more durability.


They both need to and are capable of taking the next step, but you don't have to squint very hard to envision Mariota being better equipped to take that step.


I would pretty much guarantee if you switched teams and gave Mariota Arob, Hurns, and Julius while giving Blake Kendall Wright, Rishard Matthews, and Delanie Walker the opinions would be unanimously in Mariota's favor.

Oh, please. Mariota has a quick release. Great. He can release it quick up to 20 yards downfield. He is a dink and dunk, one read QB who runs fast. Give me a break.

Quote:What's wrong with having Mariota ahead of Bortles? Mariota has a much quicker release, throws a beautiful spiral, has better ball placement, and is far more dangerous when running. Blake's side of the ledger has a season of inefficient stat compiling, and probably more durability.

 

They both need to and are capable of taking the next step, but you don't have to squint very hard to envision Mariota being better equipped to take that step. 

 

I would pretty much guarantee if you switched teams and gave Mariota Arob, Hurns, and Julius while giving Blake Kendall Wright, Rishard Matthews, and Delanie Walker the opinions would be unanimously in Mariota's favor. 

 

Also helping Mariota is playing under the QB Whisperer, aka Mike Mularkey

Quote:Oh, please. Mariota has a quick release. Great. He can release it quick up to 20 yards downfield. He is a dink and dunk, one read QB who runs fast. Give me a break.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The MM hate here is always strong...you guys never disappoint.

Quote:The MM hate here is always strong...you guys never disappoint.

Most here think he is a good young QB. You have to understand, of course we are gonna trash him he's our rival QB!

Quote:Most here think he is a good young QB. You have to understand, of course we are gonna trash him he's our rival QB!

 

I really think the AFCS will have one of the stronger groups of QBs in the next couple of years.

Quote:The MM hate here is always strong...you guys never disappoint.

I think he can be good, I think ranking him 11th right now is VERY premature.


But it is a Jags board, so MM hate should be expected.

Quote:The MM hate here is always strong...you guys never disappoint.

 

I never fully understood the bashing of Mike Mularkey here, either.