(09-10-2022, 10:09 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Does the state control the water for Jackson?
States are supposed to step in when a city is having problems, and they're doing a bad job in that regard. But yes, the city has the primary responsibility.
(09-09-2022, 05:55 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (09-01-2022, 08:14 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]All the democrats are over looking that Trump tried to solve this, got the EPA approval, and then dems didn't provide the funding. Locally they haven't maintained it and now they can't fix it anymore.
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Links or it didn't happen
Search it yourself, it's easy to find even in MSM.
The water was fixed quickly once the feds finally got there. The city said they needed $1 billion, army engineers or similar show up and make repairs immediately and it's now fixed. I'm sure if they couldn't pump water, there are lots of other issues with the pipes that will create brown water. Most people don't know the condition of pipes and what's inside them. If the water stops flowing the problem becomes a big issue.
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(09-10-2022, 02:49 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-09-2022, 05:55 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Links or it didn't happen
Search it yourself, it's easy to find even in MSM.
The water was fixed quickly once the feds finally got there. The city said they needed $1 billion, army engineers or similar show up and make repairs immediately and it's now fixed. I'm sure if they couldn't pump water, there are lots of other issues with the pipes that will create brown water. Most people don't know the condition of pipes and what's inside them. If the water stops flowing the problem becomes a big issue.
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You said Trump had a plan for it. That's not true. Unless you have a link?
The city of Jackson had primary responsibility for maintaining running water.
They failed. Those Democrats failed.
The next people that are supposed to act to prevent or solve such a crisis are the state.
They failed. Those Republicans failed.
Now the feds are fixing it.
This is not a partisan issue.
(09-10-2022, 03:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2022, 02:49 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Search it yourself, it's easy to find even in MSM.
The water was fixed quickly once the feds finally got there. The city said they needed $1 billion, army engineers or similar show up and make repairs immediately and it's now fixed. I'm sure if they couldn't pump water, there are lots of other issues with the pipes that will create brown water. Most people don't know the condition of pipes and what's inside them. If the water stops flowing the problem becomes a big issue.
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You said Trump had a plan for it. That's not true. Unless you have a link?
The city of Jackson had primary responsibility for maintaining running water.
They failed. Those Democrats failed.
The next people that are supposed to act to prevent or solve such a crisis are the state.
They failed. Those Republicans failed.
Now the feds are fixing it.
This is not a partisan issue.
Can you not search?
https://apnews.com/article/north-america...ppi-354093
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-don...dcfc170804
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/epa-...t-81239780
Trump had been trying to find a way to get it fixed but there isn't a solution other than everyone leaving and returning it to nature. Environmental people don't want it, Republicans have blocked it in the past, Democrats won't give money needed now, and the state level doesn't want to reward the poor city management with funds from the state budget.
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(09-10-2022, 09:43 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2022, 03:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You said Trump had a plan for it. That's not true. Unless you have a link?
The city of Jackson had primary responsibility for maintaining running water.
They failed. Those Democrats failed.
The next people that are supposed to act to prevent or solve such a crisis are the state.
They failed. Those Republicans failed.
Now the feds are fixing it.
This is not a partisan issue.
Can you not search?
https://apnews.com/article/north-america...ppi-354093
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-don...dcfc170804
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/epa-...t-81239780
Trump had been trying to find a way to get it fixed but there isn't a solution other than everyone leaving and returning it to nature. Environmental people don't want it, Republicans have blocked it in the past, Democrats won't give money needed now, and the state level doesn't want to reward the poor city management with funds from the state budget.
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I can search just fine. It's your ability to read a map that should be questioned. Jackson MS is on the Pearl River. Not the Yazoo.
(09-10-2022, 11:56 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2022, 09:43 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Can you not search?
https://apnews.com/article/north-america...ppi-354093
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-don...dcfc170804
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/epa-...t-81239780
Trump had been trying to find a way to get it fixed but there isn't a solution other than everyone leaving and returning it to nature. Environmental people don't want it, Republicans have blocked it in the past, Democrats won't give money needed now, and the state level doesn't want to reward the poor city management with funds from the state budget.
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I can search just fine. It's your ability to read a map that should be questioned. Jackson MS is on the Pearl River. Not the Yazoo.
The 2 rivers are 50 miles apart. Flooding affects both and low lying areas between them are affected. If you have pumps to remove water from the water table 50 miles away, it will help the to lower the water table from the area that shares the same aquifer system.
It wouldn't fix their clean water pumps but it could have helped keep the flooding from happening that caused the pumps to fail. The same problems that affect the pearl River also affect the Mississippi River. No one can do anything to fix the flooding issues because the EPA won't allow it, someone will sue because some animal needs all the water downstream, or some business lobbies to stop it so they aren't affected.
I don't know which is the correct thing to do to stop the flooding but the city clean water pumps are their own responsibility and they continued to not spend the money needed there.
Now the state is back to having no solutions. Trump got approval to fix flooding on one River and would have then set precedent to help with the flooding downstream from the dam in the pearl. They have been studying how to fix things on both rivers for well over 20 years and still have no plans.
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(09-11-2022, 01:32 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2022, 11:56 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I can search just fine. It's your ability to read a map that should be questioned. Jackson MS is on the Pearl River. Not the Yazoo.
The 2 rivers are 50 miles apart. Flooding affects both and low lying areas between them are affected. If you have pumps to remove water from the water table 50 miles away, it will help the to lower the water table from the area that shares the same aquifer system.
It wouldn't fix their clean water pumps but it could have helped keep the flooding from happening that caused the pumps to fail. The same problems that affect the pearl River also affect the Mississippi River. No one can do anything to fix the flooding issues because the EPA won't allow it, someone will sue because some animal needs all the water downstream, or some business lobbies to stop it so they aren't affected.
I don't know which is the correct thing to do to stop the flooding but the city clean water pumps are their own responsibility and they continued to not spend the money needed there.
Now the state is back to having no solutions. Trump got approval to fix flooding on one River and would have then set precedent to help with the flooding downstream from the dam in the pearl. They have been studying how to fix things on both rivers for well over 20 years and still have no plans.
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Ooooohhh burn, I love the fact spitting
(09-11-2022, 01:32 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2022, 11:56 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I can search just fine. It's your ability to read a map that should be questioned. Jackson MS is on the Pearl River. Not the Yazoo.
The 2 rivers are 50 miles apart. Flooding affects both and low lying areas between them are affected. If you have pumps to remove water from the water table 50 miles away, it will help the to lower the water table from the area that shares the same aquifer system.
It wouldn't fix their clean water pumps but it could have helped keep the flooding from happening that caused the pumps to fail. The same problems that affect the pearl River also affect the Mississippi River. No one can do anything to fix the flooding issues because the EPA won't allow it, someone will sue because some animal needs all the water downstream, or some business lobbies to stop it so they aren't affected.
I don't know which is the correct thing to do to stop the flooding but the city clean water pumps are their own responsibility and they continued to not spend the money needed there.
Now the state is back to having no solutions. Trump got approval to fix flooding on one River and would have then set precedent to help with the flooding downstream from the dam in the pearl. They have been studying how to fix things on both rivers for well over 20 years and still have no plans.
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Water is water and there are underground connections between the two areas, but no one besides you is saying that the Yazoo pumping project would have prevented any flood of the Pearl. The dam on the Pearl was not overtopped. This was just excess rain in the area immediately around Jackson. Nothing more or less.
(09-11-2022, 08:18 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (09-11-2022, 01:32 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]The 2 rivers are 50 miles apart. Flooding affects both and low lying areas between them are affected. If you have pumps to remove water from the water table 50 miles away, it will help the to lower the water table from the area that shares the same aquifer system.
It wouldn't fix their clean water pumps but it could have helped keep the flooding from happening that caused the pumps to fail. The same problems that affect the pearl River also affect the Mississippi River. No one can do anything to fix the flooding issues because the EPA won't allow it, someone will sue because some animal needs all the water downstream, or some business lobbies to stop it so they aren't affected.
I don't know which is the correct thing to do to stop the flooding but the city clean water pumps are their own responsibility and they continued to not spend the money needed there.
Now the state is back to having no solutions. Trump got approval to fix flooding on one River and would have then set precedent to help with the flooding downstream from the dam in the pearl. They have been studying how to fix things on both rivers for well over 20 years and still have no plans.
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Water is water and there are underground connections between the two areas, but no one besides you is saying that the Yazoo pumping project would have prevented any flood of the Pearl. The dam on the Pearl was not overtopped. This was just excess rain in the area immediately around Jackson. Nothing more or less.
They released water. You do know they were warning people beforehand. The whole reason the pumps failed is there was too much water moving and they couldn't handle it.
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