(09-28-2022, 11:59 AM)Eagles1966 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-25-2022, 09:34 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]We lead the league with the fewest turnovers at 1. Meanwhile we are tied for 5th I believe with 9, which matches our total for all of last year.
We are already +8 in turnover differential after only 3 games.
If you can protect the ball and create turnovers, your chances of winning go up tremendously.
Hopefully we can maintain this trend.
That would actually make me nervous were I a Jaguars fan… A lot of turnovers are blind luck, and blind luck tends to revert back to the mean over time.
Or if you watched the games, you would realize that the jags defense has been stalking opponents. Not so lucky for the opponent.
(09-29-2022, 12:18 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-28-2022, 08:49 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Yup, every one of our takeaways were the result of the Defense causing it one way or another. With either pressure, or getting their hand on a pass and deflecting it causing an INT. I can't remember off the top of my head if Campbell's INT week one was caused by pressure or not, but he made a great play and jumped the route for the INT which still wasn't a fluke turnover or blind luck.
A tipped pass is a picked pass a lot of the time.
Most tipped passes manage to find the turf.
(09-29-2022, 12:23 AM)Eagles1966 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-29-2022, 12:18 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]A tipped pass is a picked pass a lot of the time.
Most tipped passes manage to find the turf.
I can think of a couple that didn't. Maybe we will see more.
(09-29-2022, 12:23 AM),mEagles1966 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-29-2022, 12:18 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]A tipped pass is a picked pass a lot of the time.
Most tipped passes manage to find the turf.
Tipped passes are considered a "pass defense" which is an important defensive stat that means a defender actually made a play to physically interrupt the pass. If it ends up being an interception, then all the credit lies with the defense for creating the turnover situation and taking advantage of it. That is why pass defense is a major stat that is tracked. The only luck with a tipped ball is if it gets caught by an offensive player.
You are correct that most tipped passes find the turf. That is why we have way more pass defenses than we have interceptions.
None of our turnovers this year have been due to "luck" like a bobbled catches, a missed hand off, a dropped snap, a muffed punt, or someone just having butter fingers and dropping the ball.
Ours turnovers have all been the result of a direct action by our defense. Every fumble recovery we have was created by a forced fumble, another important defensive stat that means a defender made a play worth tracking.
If a tipped pass gets intercepted or a QB throws the ball poorly under pressure or a guy gets physically separated from the ball due to being hit, that's not a "lucky" turnover. That is a created turnover.
We have had no freebie turnovers this year and are still tied for having the most in the league. We are actually due for some freebies.
If I were you, I would be more concerned that you are the guys that have actually been "lucky" in the turnover battle.
(09-25-2022, 10:21 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]Your getting actual 1st round production out of Walker and Lloyd. Immediate impact from both players. They are having the type of season that Dak Prescott and Elliott had for Dallas, except on defense, and Dak not being a 1st round pick.
Lloyd and Walker are 2 slam dunk picks. So much for all the draft people saying there is not a true 1st overall pick in the draft.
Turns out there were 2 slam dunk 1st overall picks, and we just happened to get both
I just had a youtube comment conversation with one of the most delusional Eagles fans I think that exist. He pointed out to me that the Eagles are better at every single position on the field, name by name. Just wanted to inform my fellow jags fans that according to this absolute einstein Jalen Hurts is leagues above Trevor Lawrence, Miles Sanders is elite compared to James Robinson, There entire O line thats given up 7 sacks is much better in pass protection than ours whos given up 2 sacks and stone-walled Bosa and Khalil Mack.. Their edge rushers are basically hall of famers compared to Walker and Allen.. man oh man this guy. I've never in my life wanted the jags to win simply to annoy another fan in my life but honestly it would give me so much joy.
(09-29-2022, 04:17 AM)Big Dougy P Wrote: [ -> ] (09-25-2022, 10:21 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]Your getting actual 1st round production out of Walker and Lloyd. Immediate impact from both players. They are having the type of season that Dak Prescott and Elliott had for Dallas, except on defense, and Dak not being a 1st round pick.
Lloyd and Walker are 2 slam dunk picks. So much for all the draft people saying there is not a true 1st overall pick in the draft.
Turns out there were 2 slam dunk 1st overall picks, and we just happened to get both
I just had a youtube comment conversation with one of the most delusional Eagles fans I think that exist. He pointed out to me that the Eagles are better at every single position on the field, name by name. Just wanted to inform my fellow jags fans that according to this absolute einstein Jalen Hurts is leagues above Trevor Lawrence, Miles Sanders is elite compared to James Robinson, There entire O line thats given up 7 sacks is much better in pass protection than ours whos given up 2 sacks and stone-walled Bosa and Khalil Mack.. Their edge rushers are basically hall of famers compared to Walker and Allen.. man oh man this guy. I've never in my life wanted the jags to win simply to annoy another fan in my life but honestly it would give me so much joy.
My oh My ... maybe this guy wanted to charge our players for the honor of playing Sunday against his HOF Eagles?
(09-28-2022, 12:39 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-26-2022, 07:45 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]In a general sense, yes, we will get better. As far as end game results are concerned, it’s hard to realistically imagine the last two weeks will be the norm the rest of the season. In a 17 game season, we’re bound to have a rough stretch or 2.
Yes, yes, yes. The league has now noticed the Jags. They are getting more and more tape on us. Their are a bunch of very smart coaches in this league who will begin to dissect our tendencies, plot and plan....etc. How we respond to this will be interesting and something to watch. This will decide how far we go. So one game at a time, jump on the bandwagon and enjoy the ride !!!
(09-28-2022, 12:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (09-28-2022, 11:57 AM)Eagles1966 Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly… Health… The Eagles are as healthy as can be, if you come in and smoke us, then I would consider you As the favourite buy a lot in the afc South
We don't have to smoke yall. Even if we win by 1 point, just win
Quality of wind matters quite a bit when you’re using it to project the rest of the season… Look at the Giants, they are two and one but they are not a good football team. If you guys had a beat the Chargers by a single point, the beat up chargers, then I wouldn’t give that much credibility as a forecasting to either… But you blew their pants off off
(09-29-2022, 12:22 AM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-28-2022, 11:59 AM)Eagles1966 Wrote: [ -> ]That would actually make me nervous were I a Jaguars fan… A lot of turnovers are blind luck, and blind luck tends to revert back to the mean over time.
Or if you watched the games, you would realize that the jags defense has been stalking opponents. Not so lucky for the opponent.
(09-29-2022, 04:15 AM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (09-29-2022, 12:23 AM),mEagles1966 Wrote: [ -> ]Most tipped passes manage to find the turf.
Tipped passes are considered a "pass defense" which is an important defensive stat that means a defender actually made a play to physically interrupt the pass. If it ends up being an interception, then all the credit lies with the defense for creating the turnover situation and taking advantage of it. That is why pass defense is a major stat that is tracked. The only luck with a tipped ball is if it gets caught by an offensive player.
You are correct that most tipped passes find the turf. That is why we have way more pass defenses than we have interceptions.
None of our turnovers this year have been due to "luck" like a bobbled catches, a missed hand off, a dropped snap, a muffed punt, or someone just having butter fingers and dropping the ball.
Ours turnovers have all been the result of a direct action by our defense. Every fumble recovery we have was created by a forced fumble, another important defensive stat that means a defender made a play worth tracking.
If a tipped pass gets intercepted or a QB throws the ball poorly under pressure or a guy gets physically separated from the ball due to being hit, that's not a "lucky" turnover. That is a created turnover.
We have had no freebie turnovers this year and are still tied for having the most in the league. We are actually due for some freebies.
If I were you, I would be more concerned that you are the guys that have actually been "lucky" in the turnover battle.
OK, fair enough… I admit that the only jaguars plays that I’ve seen have been on the red zone
(09-29-2022, 10:01 AM)Eagles1966 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-28-2022, 12:39 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, yes, yes. The league has now noticed the Jags. They are getting more and more tape on us. Their are a bunch of very smart coaches in this league who will begin to dissect our tendencies, plot and plan....etc. How we respond to this will be interesting and something to watch. This will decide how far we go. So one game at a time, jump on the bandwagon and enjoy the ride !!!
(09-28-2022, 12:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]We don't have to smoke yall. Even if we win by 1 point, just win
Quality of wind matters quite a bit when you’re using it to project the rest of the season… Look at the Giants, they are two and one but they are not a good football team. If you guys had a beat the Chargers by a single point, the beat up chargers, then I wouldn’t give that much credibility as a forecasting to either… But you blew their pants off off
(09-29-2022, 12:22 AM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Or if you watched the games, you would realize that the jags defense has been stalking opponents. Not so lucky for the opponent.
(09-29-2022, 04:15 AM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]Tipped passes are considered a "pass defense" which is an important defensive stat that means a defender actually made a play to physically interrupt the pass. If it ends up being an interception, then all the credit lies with the defense for creating the turnover situation and taking advantage of it. That is why pass defense is a major stat that is tracked. The only luck with a tipped ball is if it gets caught by an offensive player.
You are correct that most tipped passes find the turf. That is why we have way more pass defenses than we have interceptions.
None of our turnovers this year have been due to "luck" like a bobbled catches, a missed hand off, a dropped snap, a muffed punt, or someone just having butter fingers and dropping the ball.
Ours turnovers have all been the result of a direct action by our defense. Every fumble recovery we have was created by a forced fumble, another important defensive stat that means a defender made a play worth tracking.
If a tipped pass gets intercepted or a QB throws the ball poorly under pressure or a guy gets physically separated from the ball due to being hit, that's not a "lucky" turnover. That is a created turnover.
We have had no freebie turnovers this year and are still tied for having the most in the league. We are actually due for some freebies.
If I were you, I would be more concerned that you are the guys that have actually been "lucky" in the turnover battle.
OK, fair enough… I admit that the only jaguars plays that I’ve seen have been on the red zone
We aren't looking for credibility from anyone and the team doesnt care what the media or outsiders think. Winning big is nice bit at the end of the day a win is a win so it don't really matter how you do it. If you win by 50 points or 1 point it's still just 1 win. We just need to win.
(09-29-2022, 10:01 AM)Eagles1966 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-28-2022, 12:39 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, yes, yes. The league has now noticed the Jags. They are getting more and more tape on us. Their are a bunch of very smart coaches in this league who will begin to dissect our tendencies, plot and plan....etc. How we respond to this will be interesting and something to watch. This will decide how far we go. So one game at a time, jump on the bandwagon and enjoy the ride !!!
(09-28-2022, 12:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]We don't have to smoke yall. Even if we win by 1 point, just win
Quality of wind matters quite a bit when you’re using it to project the rest of the season… Look at the Giants, they are two and one but they are not a good football team. If you guys had a beat the Chargers by a single point, the beat up chargers, then I wouldn’t give that much credibility as a forecasting to either… But you blew their pants off off
(09-29-2022, 12:22 AM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Or if you watched the games, you would realize that the jags defense has been stalking opponents. Not so lucky for the opponent.
(09-29-2022, 04:15 AM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]Tipped passes are considered a "pass defense" which is an important defensive stat that means a defender actually made a play to physically interrupt the pass. If it ends up being an interception, then all the credit lies with the defense for creating the turnover situation and taking advantage of it. That is why pass defense is a major stat that is tracked. The only luck with a tipped ball is if it gets caught by an offensive player.
You are correct that most tipped passes find the turf. That is why we have way more pass defenses than we have interceptions.
None of our turnovers this year have been due to "luck" like a bobbled catches, a missed hand off, a dropped snap, a muffed punt, or someone just having butter fingers and dropping the ball.
Ours turnovers have all been the result of a direct action by our defense. Every fumble recovery we have was created by a forced fumble, another important defensive stat that means a defender made a play worth tracking.
If a tipped pass gets intercepted or a QB throws the ball poorly under pressure or a guy gets physically separated from the ball due to being hit, that's not a "lucky" turnover. That is a created turnover.
We have had no freebie turnovers this year and are still tied for having the most in the league. We are actually due for some freebies.
If I were you, I would be more concerned that you are the guys that have actually been "lucky" in the turnover battle.
OK, fair enough… I admit that the only jaguars plays that I’ve seen have been on the red zone
our defense plays agressive, fast and they are very instinctive especially in our new picks and last years safety. Lloyd, Cisco and Walker. this year as opposed to previous, we have fight, we have discipline.