(10-09-2022, 09:50 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 09:44 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I'll attribute that to youth and frustration. I'm confident he'll never do it again.
Was definitely out of frustration. I don't think that'll be a trend with him. Especially since he'll probably be getting a letter in the mail from the league saying they'll be taking a few $$$$$ from him as well.
Exactly. [BLEEP] happens. Even the best pass rushers have this happen to them all the time. Hell I think Von Miller had one or two plays like that this year. A letter in the mail and a fine though will usually do the trick.
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(10-09-2022, 08:13 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]After baking in the sun today while listening to these idiots behind me YELL TALKING the entire game as the Jags deconstructed in front of my very eyes has put me in a mood where I don't even want to watch another football game tonight. But I will. It's the Bengals and Ravens. How can you not watch that?
I don't know what's worse, rooting for a team you know sucks, or one that is Jekyll and Hyde.
That was an interesting game all the way down to 0:00.
Also, the defense is playing good but no pass rush is concerning.
Coach and QB are in loser denial based on their post game comments.
(10-10-2022, 12:57 AM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]Coach and QB are in loser denial based on their post game comments.
Naw it's more like some of the fans are in major overreaction mode. This franchise won 4 total games over the last 2 seasons (4-29 record). We're already at half of that through 5 games. Some of you guys are acting like we're the defending Super Bowl Champs or something LOL. Oh and by the way, the actual defending Super Bowl Champs are 2-3 as well. Imagine that.
This should be a run first offense till Trevor gets his $h1+ together
I have NO idea why Pederson is trying to force Trevor to get it right when he clearly is having an off day. This was a give the ball to your young RBs game.
It’s almost as if Pederson has no patience with the running game.
(10-10-2022, 01:29 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-10-2022, 12:57 AM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]Coach and QB are in loser denial based on their post game comments.
Naw it's more like some of the fans are in major overreaction mode. This franchise won 4 total games over the last 2 seasons (4-29 record). We're already at half of that through 5 games. Some of you guys are acting like we're the defending Super Bowl Champs or something LOL. Oh and by the way, the actual defending Super Bowl Champs are 2-3 as well. Imagine that.
Hard disagree. Most of us were assuming 7-9 wins, maybe less. But that was assuming the entire team was not quite there yet but Trevor was showing some sort of improvement. So far it seems our defense has become a top 10 unit, and Trevor is regressing. Which sucks because the first 3 weeks he looked like he may be on the right path.
(10-10-2022, 02:23 AM)Big Dougy P Wrote: [ -> ] (10-10-2022, 01:29 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Naw it's more like some of the fans are in major overreaction mode. This franchise won 4 total games over the last 2 seasons (4-29 record). We're already at half of that through 5 games. Some of you guys are acting like we're the defending Super Bowl Champs or something LOL. Oh and by the way, the actual defending Super Bowl Champs are 2-3 as well. Imagine that.
Hard disagree. Most of us were assuming 7-9 wins, maybe less. But that was assuming the entire team was not quite there yet but Trevor was showing some sort of improvement. So far it seems our defense has become a top 10 unit, and Trevor is regressing. Which sucks because the first 3 weeks he looked like he may be on the right path.
Assuming and realistic are two different things. 7 wins this year would be a good season for this team/franchise and it's still very do able. This franchise has won 7 games once since 2010 and some of you think it was going to be fixed over night this season. It's week 5 LOL. There's still 12 more games to be played.
(10-10-2022, 02:36 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-10-2022, 02:23 AM)Big Dougy P Wrote: [ -> ]Hard disagree. Most of us were assuming 7-9 wins, maybe less. But that was assuming the entire team was not quite there yet but Trevor was showing some sort of improvement. So far it seems our defense has become a top 10 unit, and Trevor is regressing. Which sucks because the first 3 weeks he looked like he may be on the right path.
Assuming and realistic are two different things. 7 wins this year would be a good season for this team/franchise and it's still very do able. This franchise has won 7 games once since 2010 and some of you think it was going to be fixed over night this season. It's week 5 LOL. There's still 12 more games to be played.
Excuse me i'm a bit trashed right now, what I was attempting to say was that the wins/losses carry less meaning if our franchise QB is regressing.
(10-10-2022, 02:49 AM)Big Dougy P Wrote: [ -> ] (10-10-2022, 02:36 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Assuming and realistic are two different things. 7 wins this year would be a good season for this team/franchise and it's still very do able. This franchise has won 7 games once since 2010 and some of you think it was going to be fixed over night this season. It's week 5 LOL. There's still 12 more games to be played.
Excuse me i'm a bit trashed right now, what I was attempting to say was that the wins/losses carry less meaning if our franchise QB is regressing.
Is he regressing though? I understand people want him to be Mahomes straight out of the gate, but that's just not reality. Hes had good moments and hes had bad moments. The bad moments always stand out more because fans like to think all these guys are perfect. He needs to clean some stuff up and play better at times, but he isn't alone. Doug definitely needs to stop abandoning the run game as well.
This was an unesccarry loss! However it happens so time to move on to next weekend. Super scared of the colts now. They will want some pay back. Jags better be ready because this game is huge now.
(10-09-2022, 11:12 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 09:50 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Was definitely out of frustration. I don't think that'll be a trend with him. Especially since he'll probably be getting a letter in the mail from the league saying they'll be taking a few $$$$$ from him as well.
Exactly. [BLEEP] happens. Even the best pass rushers have this happen to them all the time. Hell I think Von Miller had one or two plays like that this year. A letter in the mail and a fine though will usually do the trick.
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Oh yeah, Walker is definitely gonna get some literature in his mailbox from the league. He will pay a fine and learn from his mistake. It happens to the best of them.
(10-09-2022, 04:10 PM)Jags239 Wrote: [ -> ]Two biggest plays that cost the Jags.
Trevor boneheaded pick in the end zone.
Walker 2 penalty play that would’ve turned the ball over and no tinhorn TD.
Trevor missed some easy throws and Walker was invisible today so they were both inexcusable.
was it me, or were the refs awful lazy on their whistles for that play?
I know Walker is a fast dude, but not one ref attempted to intervene or stop him from playing to the ground. It's a bad penalty, but I didn't hear any whistles over the broadcast, just saw flags. Refs need to get visible when the audible is compromised by noise.
In that last statement, did you mean Allen? I don't recall hearing his name once.
I'll throw in another nominee for boneheaded plays - 4th and 1, we call a shotgun draw. What in the world!?!?!
(10-09-2022, 04:14 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]In addition to the obvious; running from a shotgun formation on 4th and 1 behind your backup LG, calling a TE double move on 4th down, abandonment from the run when it works so well and many more.
Trevor was terrible and the loss falls mainly on him but Doug also deserves some criticism here.
great minds think alike.
(10-09-2022, 04:23 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]Guys…what we have on our hands is a struggling QB. Those quick decisions and getting rid of the ball fast are starting to haunt him.
Trevor’s problem? He’s not reading the defense and hitting the best option. These pre-determined throws are killing this offense. He’s simply not going through his progressions. The way you beat the Jags is to blitz Lawrence. He continues to bail out and not move the pocket.
He looked like an old lady running with her purse on that last Hail Mary. At some point he is going to have to grow up and stand strong in the pocket and read the defense and deliver the football with accuracy.
The QB is struggling. I don’t want to hear the offensive line or the defense that allowed 13 points. We could have prime Randy Moss and Jerry Rice and we would have still lost that game.
On the other side, why so many passes? Run the ball and set up some basic play action. Your defense is plenty good enough.
7 turnovers in just 2 games won’t get you anywhere in pro football.
The thing I fear, like many other Jags QBs before him, does he start to feel the burden that he must do everything to get the offense rolling, and by doing so, start making rookie mistakes a habit? Too often we've painted ourselves into a corner with an early QB, and figure that if we just put the ball in their hands, throw 40 times a game, it will all sort itself out. I think he's at his worst when he's forcing the issue, and too often I feel like our playcalling or penalties are leaving him to carry the entire team downfield.
The Stingley pick was a great play on the kid's part. I don't TLaw looked him off, or even looked in his direction at all, but Stingley full reversed course on his coverage to make the play. You could see on the replay, he's running away from the route, but looks behind him as he's moving, and immediately stops, knowing that where he's at is perfect coverage area between his spot and EZ corner, nothing was getting beyond him. I know the play bit us in the rump, but I couldn't help but admire such veteran play from a rook.
(10-09-2022, 06:53 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 06:46 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Team deserved getting their [BLEEP] kicked today if this was the case. They have no business overlooking anybody. Especially not a Division game.
https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...1895816193
No. Sounds like their pride and feelings are more hurt than anything and reality is sinking in. They're still a long way off from being deserving of being ranked within the top ten, possibly, top sixteen of the entire league.
Watch what happens when they get smacked around on the road next weekend. They probably get shut out this time. I think they'll be lucky to win five or six games now.
Better than last two years. Still leaving more doubts than actual hope going into 2023 though. It is what it is.
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See this was what was keeping me from thinking we were a playoff team after week 3.
This team still needs to learn how to deal with getting smacked in the mouth. They need to develop confidence that they can beat the teams they should; They need to build that mindset that 4th an 1 is not a problem, cuz we're gonna get 5. Next week is going to be HUGE. In the past, the team (and fans, for that matter) start to crumble once the doubt creeps in. If we're to get this team out of the cellar, we've got to see some guys thrashing against that insecurity and establishing themselves as the ones who are going to get this team winning and winning often.
I genuinely interested to see which path we follow come Sunday. You know the 'shoes are gonna be up for a fight after the belly-up showing they put on a few weeks back. Do we match them, or do we end up on the floor?
(10-10-2022, 02:05 AM)MojoKing Wrote: [ -> ]This should be a run first offense till Trevor gets his $h1+ together
I have NO idea why Pederson is trying to force Trevor to get it right when he clearly is having an off day. This was a give the ball to your young RBs game.
It’s almost as if Pederson has no patience with the running game.
You say you have no idea, then you state the most convincing idea why.
I don't understand why he gives up on the run game.
(10-09-2022, 09:47 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 08:52 PM)Section105Fan Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t think you can fix stupid. 3rd and 20. You rush offside, then , after the whistle blows you grab the QB and throw him to the ground. I guess an IQ test is not part of the evaluation process because the Jags seem to attract more than their fair share of illiterate football players.
You can't be serious with this [BLEEP].
The Jags locker room is chock full of bright young players right now.
Moreso than has ever been the case.
Pass rushers get roughing penalties. Some of them are more blatant than others. This one came at a really, really bad time.
I was a season ticket holder from season number 1. If I was able to cut and paste how many posts I’ve read just exactly like yours over these past 27 years, it would fill several pages. “ Full of bright young players “ is a banner that should be draped in the locker room after another loss caused by self-inflicted wounds. Yes, pass rushers do get roughing penalties. Most of them are the result of split-second decisions they must make in the heat of the moment, not long after the whistle has blown for a off side penalty
(10-10-2022, 01:06 PM)Section105Fan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2022, 09:47 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]You can't be serious with this [BLEEP].
The Jags locker room is chock full of bright young players right now.
Moreso than has ever been the case.
Pass rushers get roughing penalties. Some of them are more blatant than others. This one came at a really, really bad time.
I was a season ticket holder from season number 1. If I was able to cut and paste how many posts I’ve read just exactly like yours over these past 27 years, it would fill several pages. “ Full of bright young players “ is a banner that should be draped in the locker room after another loss caused by self-inflicted wounds. Yes, pass rushers do get roughing penalties. Most of them are the result of split-second decisions they must make in the heat of the moment, not long after the whistle has blown for a off side penalty
You can be stuck in the past and past failures if you'd like.
I was here for all of those as well.
This roster is different, and it's only year one of it.
I've been paying attention. Not throwing you coach-speak or lip service.
Check out some interviews from:
Andre Cisco
Devin Lloyd
Zay Jones
Christian Kirk
Luke Fortner
Trevor Lawrence
Tyson Campbell
Foye Oluokun
Foley Fatukasi
Then get back to me on whether this team has more bright, young, bought-in players than past regimes.
Well on the bright side we held Cooks in check for once