This game was a classic!
Tremendous comeback win for the Jaguars against a battletested Ravens team that has a history of winning games like this one.
One additional Jags player to the players mentioned in this thread, is DaVon Hamilton. While Hamilton probably didn't end up with a game ball, his presence in Defensive Line interior for the Jags was huge. Hamilton held his ground repeatedly against the run, with more than his share getting some penetration/ push.
Foyesade Oluokon has been one of my favorite NFL players to watch dating back to pretty early in his time with the Falcons. Oluokon's performance wasn't surprising. But Hamilton's presence was probably the difference between a great performance by Oluokon, compared to a good performance.
(11-27-2022, 05:56 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Doug Pederson has steel balls with that late 2 point call. He knew if he missed it how people would be saying he is too risky. He believed in the team and got rewarded for it. Wow what a play call!
Trevor Lawrence What a clutch late 4th quarter drive combined with a pinpoint throw for the 2 point clutch game winning play. Lawrence was good all day.
Hasty had more than a couple of big plays today. A big receiving TD while running hard inside.
The Defense deserves one for keeping Baltimore out of the endzone most of the day. They held their own in the redzone several times.
Zay Jones should go to jail for killing all of those Ravens. He was schooling them all day
Cisco was a force in the middle breaking up several plays.
The offensive line also deserves a ball for keeping Lawrence clean most of this game. He was comfortable back there.
DEWEY Wingard with a key forced fumble late in the game
Oluokon was a tacking machine out there
This one for sure. Tucker had what, 3 FG under 30 yards? That was huge.
(11-28-2022, 04:54 AM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ]This game was a classic!
Tremendous comeback win for the Jaguars against a battletested Ravens team that has a history of winning games like this one.
One additional Jags player to the players mentioned in this thread, is DaVon Hamilton. While Hamilton probably didn't end up with a game ball, his presence in Defensive Line interior for the Jags was huge. Hamilton held his ground repeatedly against the run, with more than his share getting some penetration/ push.
Foyesade Oluokon has been one of my favorite NFL players to watch dating back to pretty early in his time with the Falcons. Oluokon's performance wasn't surprising. But Hamilton's presence was probably the difference between a great performance by Oluokon, compared to a good performance.
Yes!
Hamilton did show up in the middle vs the run a number of times.
He was part of a very poor run defense last year so that is really great to see.
Fun Fact:
In week 1 of the 1997 season, the Jaguars beat the Ravens with the same score of 28-27. That was the Rob Johnson game.
(11-28-2022, 12:38 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2022, 04:54 AM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ]This game was a classic!
Tremendous comeback win for the Jaguars against a battletested Ravens team that has a history of winning games like this one.
One additional Jags player to the players mentioned in this thread, is DaVon Hamilton. While Hamilton probably didn't end up with a game ball, his presence in Defensive Line interior for the Jags was huge. Hamilton held his ground repeatedly against the run, with more than his share getting some penetration/ push.
Foyesade Oluokon has been one of my favorite NFL players to watch dating back to pretty early in his time with the Falcons. Oluokon's performance wasn't surprising. But Hamilton's presence was probably the difference between a great performance by Oluokon, compared to a good performance.
Yes!
Hamilton did show up in the middle vs the run a number of times.
He was part of a very poor run defense last year so that is really great to see.
While watching the game, I couldn't tell from the TV angles of the game whether DaVon Hamilton forced a fumble on Lamar Jackson on the 4th and 1 play around the 50 yard line, when the Ravens led 6-0. Hamilton was credited with a forced fumble, in addition to the fumble recovery. Considering that this play changed the complexion of the game enormously, Hamilton probably does deserve a game ball, when factoring in his overall performance.
Another play in this game that jumped out was the pass coverage that Arden Key provided on TE Mark Andrews, when dropping back into coverage on a zone blitz play(on what looked like a version of a Wheel Route). Great athletic skills, awareness, and timing by Key.
(11-28-2022, 08:51 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2022, 12:38 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Yes!
Hamilton did show up in the middle vs the run a number of times.
He was part of a very poor run defense last year so that is really great to see.
While watching the game, I couldn't tell from the TV angles of the game whether DaVon Hamilton forced a fumble on Lamar Jackson on the 4th and 1 play around the 50 yard line, when the Ravens led 6-0. Hamilton was credited with a forced fumble, in addition to the fumble recovery. Considering that this play changed the complexion of the game enormously, Hamilton probably does deserve a game ball, when factoring in his overall performance.
Another play in this game that jumped out was the pass coverage that Arden Key provided on TE Mark Andrews, when dropping back into coverage on a zone blitz play(on what looked like a version of a Wheel Route). Great athletic skills, awareness, and timing by Key.
Hamilton did indeed force that fumble. Lamar tried to extend the ball out to get the 1st down and Hamilton put his helmet into it, causing Lamar to lose the ball. He also recovered it IIRC.
(11-28-2022, 09:08 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2022, 08:58 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Hamilton did indeed force that fumble. Lamar tried to extend the ball out to get the 1st down and Hamilton put his helmet into it, causing Lamar to lose the ball. He also recovered it IIRC.
The impact of this play on the game was immense. It easily could have been a 10-to-14-point swing.
Yup, it was a huge play. Hamilton had a great game.
(11-28-2022, 09:10 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2022, 09:08 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ]The impact of this play on the game was immense. It easily could have been a 10-to-14-point swing.
Yup, it was a huge play. Hamilton had a great game.
In 2023, with DaVon Hamilton scheduled to enter his final season of his rookie contract, I think the Jaguars brass is going to make a serious attempt in the off-season to sign him to a contract extension.
(11-28-2022, 09:29 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2022, 09:10 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Yup, it was a huge play. Hamilton had a great game.
In 2023, with DaVon Hamilton scheduled to enter his final season of his rookie contract, I think the Jaguars brass is going to make a serious attempt in the off-season to sign him to a contract extension.
Seems to be a young ascending player
(11-27-2022, 07:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 07:14 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I think that was Muma and Jenkins that got torched by Watson
Desean Jackson ran right through Jenkins zone of coverage and Jenkins could not stay with him. Muma was chasing but it was not likely his assignment on the play.
Campo just said on 1010 that was on Muma
(11-29-2022, 03:29 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 07:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Desean Jackson ran right through Jenkins zone of coverage and Jenkins could not stay with him. Muma was chasing but it was not likely his assignment on the play.
Campo just said on 1010 that was on Muma
I disagree. The safety is supposed to pick up a player going deep across the middle.
(11-29-2022, 03:29 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 07:24 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Desean Jackson ran right through Jenkins zone of coverage and Jenkins could not stay with him. Muma was chasing but it was not likely his assignment on the play.
Campo just said on 1010 that was on Muma
If it was on Muma - then kudos to Baltimore and Lamar for seeing the mismatch and executing.
Boselli was saying that Cisco bit on a shallow route and should have been dropping so that Jenkins wouldn't have to come all the way to his side, but I'd trust Campo on coverage analysis since he coached it for 30 years.
(11-29-2022, 04:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2022, 03:29 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Campo just said on 1010 that was on Muma
If it was on Muma - then kudos to Baltimore and Lamar for seeing the mismatch and executing.
Boselli was saying that Cisco bit on a shallow route and should have been dropping so that Jenkins wouldn't have to come all the way to his side, but I'd trust Campo on coverage analysis since he coached it for 30 years.
Obviously we don't know the assignments because we aren't in the meetings, but it looks like Cisco made the right read. Lamar has two guys breaking towards the middle of the field and Cisco would have been there to try and make a play on the ball, or get the tackle if Lamar threw it there.
I think Muma did an ok job trailing the play (that's a hard ask for a LB to trail 40 yards down field and cover that), but Jenkins had to wait a step too long before he decided to go and that let Jackson get on top of him. It's also a great route by Jackson. You have to remember, dude has been the best deep ball WR for like 15 years. He does that to everybody.
The biggest take away from the play, is that the whole thing was made possible because they only rushed 3 guys... They only rushed Hamilton, Foley and RRH.. That isn't gonna get it done and that's why Lamar and Jackson had so much time to get open/make the throw.
Here's the all-22 of that play..
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...8988179456