(12-14-2022, 02:25 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]From the past few weeks to even the first half of this past week the defense was getting gashed. Anyone see what changed?
I'm admittedly no expert of defensive alignments. I notice Walker was playing with his hand in the dirt off the edge more and had more success. Tha pass rush was getting home more in general which of course helped with turnovers.
Anyone else notice any differences schematically or was it a lot more of just players executing better?
Tennessee's offensive line really sucks in pass protection.
(12-14-2022, 08:17 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-14-2022, 07:39 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Tho they switched him to outside like he shoulda been all along and it paid off. Those other guys we had out their got burnt deep too often.
We'll see if it pays off. Williams got off easy twice on poor throws from Tannehill when he was beaten.
Not convinced yet that it's as simple as moving him outside. We'll see.
Sometimes that's what it takes lol. Lamar missed a few too. That game may turn out differently if Jackson is as accurate as Trevor has been the past few weeks.
I'm not sure Dak will be so gracious - if he gets dialed in, I've seen him play some pretty incredible ball.
Maybe the defense is just as excited about our QB's play as I am
The difference was we managed to get turnovers.
We were getting gashed in the first half but a couple of takeaways and ,crucially, the offence putting up points put the Titans into a hole they're not built to escape from.
I'll need to see more to think this is a trend yet.
However with Trevor and the offence clicking at least the D should be in more advantageous situations
(12-15-2022, 07:20 AM)WYjagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]The difference was we managed to get turnovers.
We were getting gashed in the first half but a couple of takeaways and ,crucially, the offence putting up points put the Titans into a hole they're not built to escape from.
I'll need to see more to think this is a trend yet.
However with Trevor and the offence clicking at least the D should be in more advantageous situations
That and we took Henry out of the equation after the first quarter. I’ll give Caldwell credit for that. Hopefully he’s flattening the learning curve a bit.
For the team’s sake, I would like to see Caldwell shine these last few games to avoid having to adapt to another DC.
(12-15-2022, 07:37 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2022, 07:20 AM)WYjagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]The difference was we managed to get turnovers.
We were getting gashed in the first half but a couple of takeaways and ,crucially, the offence putting up points put the Titans into a hole they're not built to escape from.
I'll need to see more to think this is a trend yet.
However with Trevor and the offence clicking at least the D should be in more advantageous situations
That and we took Henry out of the equation after the first quarter. I’ll give Caldwell credit for that. Hopefully he’s flattening the learning curve a bit.
For the team’s sake, I would like to see Caldwell shine these last few games to avoid having to adapt to another DC.
Yeah we neutralized Henry but the Titans were behind and ,with Burks out, don't really have any good receivers.
Henry had very few carries in the second half.
It's encouraging but I need to see more to be anything like convinced.
It was the pep talk by wingard,and tittians O-line was terrbille that day.
(12-14-2022, 08:17 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-14-2022, 07:39 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Tho they switched him to outside like he shoulda been all along and it paid off. Those other guys we had out their got burnt deep too often.
We'll see if it pays off. Williams got off easy twice on poor throws from Tannehill when he was beaten.
Not convinced yet that it's as simple as moving him outside. We'll see.
Dont get me wrong i dont see him as a long term answer there but early in the season it felt like a weekly occurrence of seeing griffin or herndon getting beat deep in the 4th and losing us a game. Felt like a change needed to be made much earlier.
(12-14-2022, 09:59 PM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ] (12-14-2022, 08:17 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]We'll see if it pays off. Williams got off easy twice on poor throws from Tannehill when he was beaten.
Not convinced yet that it's as simple as moving him outside. We'll see.
Sometimes that's what it takes lol. Lamar missed a few too. That game may turn out differently if Jackson is as accurate as Trevor has been the past few weeks.
I'm not sure Dak will be so gracious - if he gets dialed in, I've seen him play some pretty incredible ball.
Maybe the defense is just as excited about our QB's play as I am
(12-15-2022, 07:20 AM)WYjagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]The difference was we managed to get turnovers.
We were getting gashed in the first half but a couple of takeaways and ,crucially, the offence putting up points put the Titans into a hole they're not built to escape from.
I'll need to see more to think this is a trend yet.
However with Trevor and the offence clicking at least the D should be in more advantageous situations
Daks been rough this year. 14 td 9 ints is pretty ugly. Im much more concerned about their defense
oh i am afriad though Trevor waveing by to tittians fans will cost him later this season. its gonna fire up tittians players for next game
(12-15-2022, 08:51 AM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]oh i am afriad though Trevor waveing by to tittians fans will cost him later this season. its gonna fire up tittians players for next game
That's fine. Let it. We'll just burn them with the TE or RB screen early and that'll cool their fire down a little bit. Pederson showed the entire team probably two decades worth of tacks players, tacks coaches and tacks fans talking [BLEEP] about the Jaguars.
I think we'll be fine...
Not sure I saw this anywhere yet but don't discount the importance of having a lead. Early in the year it felt like we would jump out to a quick lead. But lately that has changed where more often than not we find ourselves behind. In the Titans game luckily we forced some turnovers which was the only thing slowing them down in the first half. But once we got the lead, they had to abandon the run and our defense could focus solely on defending the passing game. Which is great for us as the Titans have no passing game.
When opposing teams can stick to their offensive gameplan and can mix the run/pass, our defense doesn't stand much of a chance. But when the opposing team is behind and in catchup mode, it's a huge benefit to us. Thats true of all teams of course but the contrast is noticeable with us. The only time that seems to break down is when we have a one score lead late in a game where you know we'll stop no one.
(12-15-2022, 09:00 AM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure I saw this anywhere yet but don't discount the importance of having a lead. Early in the year it felt like we would jump out to a quick lead. But lately that has changed where more often than not we find ourselves behind. In the Titans game luckily we forced some turnovers which was the only thing slowing them down in the first half. But once we got the lead, they had to abandon the run and our defense could focus solely on defending the passing game. Which is great for us as the Titans have no passing game.
When opposing teams can stick to their offensive gameplan and can mix the run/pass, our defense doesn't stand much of a chance. But when the opposing team is behind and in catchup mode, it's a huge benefit to us. Thats true of all teams of course but the contrast is noticeable with us. The only time that seems to break down is when we have a one score lead late in a game where you know we'll stop no one.
Yes - I mentioned this in the game thread I think around the late 3rd quarter.
This defense looks much different with a lead in their favor.
Nonetheless - vs a better passing offense and better OL - such a lead will be more vulnerable given our secondary woes and suspect pass rush.
(12-15-2022, 09:00 AM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure I saw this anywhere yet but don't discount the importance of having a lead. Early in the year it felt like we would jump out to a quick lead. But lately that has changed where more often than not we find ourselves behind. In the Titans game luckily we forced some turnovers which was the only thing slowing them down in the first half. But once we got the lead, they had to abandon the run and our defense could focus solely on defending the passing game. Which is great for us as the Titans have no passing game.
When opposing teams can stick to their offensive gameplan and can mix the run/pass, our defense doesn't stand much of a chance. But when the opposing team is behind and in catchup mode, it's a huge benefit to us. Thats true of all teams of course but the contrast is noticeable with us. The only time that seems to break down is when we have a one score lead late in a game where you know we'll stop no one.
(12-15-2022, 09:08 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2022, 09:00 AM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure I saw this anywhere yet but don't discount the importance of having a lead. Early in the year it felt like we would jump out to a quick lead. But lately that has changed where more often than not we find ourselves behind. In the Titans game luckily we forced some turnovers which was the only thing slowing them down in the first half. But once we got the lead, they had to abandon the run and our defense could focus solely on defending the passing game. Which is great for us as the Titans have no passing game.
When opposing teams can stick to their offensive gameplan and can mix the run/pass, our defense doesn't stand much of a chance. But when the opposing team is behind and in catchup mode, it's a huge benefit to us. Thats true of all teams of course but the contrast is noticeable with us. The only time that seems to break down is when we have a one score lead late in a game where you know we'll stop no one.
Yes - I mentioned this in the game thread I think around the late 3rd quarter.
This defense looks much different with a lead in their favor.
Nonetheless - vs a better passing offense and better OL - such a lead will be more vulnerable given our secondary woes and suspect pass rush.
Agreed. I hope this team builds around him like the clots did with Manning. Just give him a wide variety of skill position players and better pass protection and he'll [BLEEP] around and put points on the board fast and furiously. Then we can just pin our ears back defensively and simplify the gameplan on that side of the football.
(12-14-2022, 07:53 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]It's Dewey! He's on fire!
Prime example of the benefit of having players in the right roles. In the past Dewey was playing 25 yards off of the line of scrimmage, playing in open spaces, and typically used as a safety net to guard the opponents fastest WRs running deeper routes. Dewey plays best closer to the line of scrimmage, guarding against the run and WRs running shorter routes.
(12-15-2022, 11:16 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (12-14-2022, 07:53 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]It's Dewey! He's on fire!
Prime example of the benefit of having players in the right roles. In the past Dewey was playing 25 yards off of the line of scrimmage, playing in open spaces, and typically used as a safety net to guard the opponents fastest WRs running deeper routes. Dewey plays best closer to the line of scrimmage, guarding against the run and WRs running shorter routes.
Yeah. Said it in another thread but I get excited when I see him hovering around the LOS and blitzing after the QB. Virtually everytime he does that something good happens for us defensively. Big pass breakup, TFL, etc.
It's puzzling that Caldwell can scheme up Wingard correctly but we're fumbling the bag with Walker and Lloyd. Lloyd really does need some opportunities out there at weakside backer as a rusher or in zone coverage on one side of the field.
Muma is a good fit next to Foye in the middle. Walker needs honestly 60 - 70 percent of his snaps coming from the 3-tech position. Seems obvious. I know its easier said than done but it needs to be done for the remainder of the year.
Walker should eventually turn into that guy you line up everywhere but for now just let him work the guard and center with Fatukasi and Hamilton. Seems to create the shortest distance between himself and the QB or at least gets the offensive line second guessing their assignments.
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