(02-26-2023, 06:18 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2023, 07:47 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]Jags just resigned Roy Robertson-Harris 3 years, 30 million.
Not a Horrible Deal for a quality starter. In a perfect world, we'd find 10 starters and future pro bowlers in the draft, but the ats not the reality. I think this is actually less than he could have gotten on the open market, which is a good sign that players want to be here and be part of something.
Franchise Qb's have gravity.
Nice deal for both sides, the chips are beginning to fall. Expect more tween now and the 13th.
Jags have got to find an Alpha pass Rusher.
(02-27-2023, 03:01 AM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Jags have got to find an Alpha pass Rusher.
I certainly don’t disagree but unless Walker and/or Allen step up not sure how???
(02-26-2023, 08:31 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2023, 07:01 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]With the off-season so far, especially the Beathard move, it wouldn't shock me for them to extend Griffin, instead of cutting him.
You're doing an awful lot of hand wringing over them paying a guy $2m...
Trevor wanted him back, they have a great relationship. Keeping consistency around Trevor is what we want right now. CJ was usually the first person to meet Trevor whenever he came to the sidelines. He'd be right there handing him the tablet and they'd go over what just occurred.
It sure does feel like you just want something to complain about right now.
Consistency isn't as important as quality.
I'd rather see cap space spent on decent offensive linemen over backup quarterbacks that offer nothing of significance.
(02-27-2023, 07:00 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2023, 08:31 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]You're doing an awful lot of hand wringing over them paying a guy $2m...
Trevor wanted him back, they have a great relationship. Keeping consistency around Trevor is what we want right now. CJ was usually the first person to meet Trevor whenever he came to the sidelines. He'd be right there handing him the tablet and they'd go over what just occurred.
It sure does feel like you just want something to complain about right now.
Consistency isn't as important as quality.
I'd rather see cap space spent on decent offensive linemen over backup quarterbacks that offer nothing of significance.
Nothing says quality offensive linemen like $2m dollars does.... LOLOLOLOLOLOL
That's all it takes boys, $2m.
(02-27-2023, 07:26 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2023, 07:00 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]Consistency isn't as important as quality.
I'd rather see cap space spent on decent offensive linemen over backup quarterbacks that offer nothing of significance.
Nothing says quality offensive linemen like $2m dollars does.... LOLOLOLOLOLOL
That's all it takes boys, $2m.
I am not sure this is even a thing. By definition quality is consistent or it is not quality. As for the offensive line, just wait they will begin to fix it this year. Doug wanted to last year but the way things broke it wasn't in the cards so they did what they could. I did enjoy the results of that.
(02-27-2023, 07:26 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2023, 07:00 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]Consistency isn't as important as quality.
I'd rather see cap space spent on decent offensive linemen over backup quarterbacks that offer nothing of significance.
Nothing says quality offensive linemen like $2m dollars does.... LOLOLOLOLOLOL
That's all it takes boys, $2m.
I mean, if we could re-sign Taylor for 2M, I'd probably do it.
(02-27-2023, 07:26 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2023, 07:00 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]Consistency isn't as important as quality.
I'd rather see cap space spent on decent offensive linemen over backup quarterbacks that offer nothing of significance.
Nothing says quality offensive linemen like $2m dollars does.... LOLOLOLOLOLOL
That's all it takes boys, $2m.
$2 million could be the difference between getting a quality lineman or getting Trevor's knee blown out settling for someone cheaper.
I guess I overestimated your ability to understand the basics of what I was discussing, my bad.
(02-27-2023, 09:49 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2023, 07:26 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing says quality offensive linemen like $2m dollars does.... LOLOLOLOLOLOL
That's all it takes boys, $2m.
$2 million could be the difference between getting a quality lineman or getting Trevor's knee blown out settling for someone cheaper.
I guess I overestimated your ability to understand the basics of what I was discussing, my bad.
You are overreacting to a basic offseason move that won't hinder any such fictional signing.
If they needed Bethard's measly salary to get a quality lineman over one who could get Trevor's knee blown out, they can just cut Bethard and look to the late rounds or UDFA.
That won't happen, because they aren't going to sign any big FA OLs, and they can clear space in half a dozen other places as evidenced by the Oluokun restructuring.
Besides, they already have three O-Linemen that could get Trevor's knee blowout at the drop of a hat as it is.
(02-27-2023, 09:49 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (02-27-2023, 07:26 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing says quality offensive linemen like $2m dollars does.... LOLOLOLOLOLOL
That's all it takes boys, $2m.
$2 million could be the difference between getting a quality lineman or getting Trevor's knee blown out settling for someone cheaper.
I guess I overestimated your ability to understand the basics of what I was discussing, my bad.
You aren't discussing anything. You're just mad about nothing because you think $2m will sign a top OL FA or something.. That isn't happening.
If money is the difference in whether a player could get injured or not, why did the guy who's making $16m this year be the one who let Trevor almost get his knee blown out? They should have went with somebody a lot cheaper (Little).
Got to give Baalke some credit. Restructuring Oloukon, resign RHH and Hasty and put us in a much better cap situation. Cut Griffin and we are under cap. Still need to resign Engram and can't see us keeping Taylor but a few more moves like we have done and we have kept a lot of last years team and have some space to add to the roster.
(02-28-2023, 12:10 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Got to give Baalke some credit. Restructuring Oloukon, resign RHH and Hasty and put us in a much better cap situation. Cut Griffin and we are under cap. Still need to resign Engram and can't see us keeping Taylor but a few more moves like we have done and we have kept a lot of last years team and have some space to add to the roster.
No way they keep Taylor (I wouldn't) unless he takes a major pay cut to stay. He's going to get PAID on the open market. Let him walk and we should get a 3rd, or 4th round comp pick for him.
We likely get a comp pick for Key if he walks as well.
(02-28-2023, 12:19 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2023, 12:10 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Got to give Baalke some credit. Restructuring Oloukon, resign RHH and Hasty and put us in a much better cap situation. Cut Griffin and we are under cap. Still need to resign Engram and can't see us keeping Taylor but a few more moves like we have done and we have kept a lot of last years team and have some space to add to the roster.
No way they keep Taylor (I wouldn't) unless he takes a major pay cut to stay. He's going to get PAID on the open market. Let him walk and we should get a 3rd, or 4th round comp pick for him.
We likely get a comp pick for Key if he walks as well.
Thats been my thinking with Taylor. We can't pay anywhere near what he would get if he went to FA and while he says he would like to stay, OL gets massively overpaid in FA and I see no difference with Taylor.
I'd like to keep Key if we could but think it would depend if they try and do more restructurings. They seem to have a plan for the cap which is a pleasant surprise but if we cut Griffin we are around $5m under the cap I think so still need more for Engram.
(02-28-2023, 12:27 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2023, 12:19 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]No way they keep Taylor (I wouldn't) unless he takes a major pay cut to stay. He's going to get PAID on the open market. Let him walk and we should get a 3rd, or 4th round comp pick for him.
We likely get a comp pick for Key if he walks as well.
Thats been my thinking with Taylor. We can't pay anywhere near what he would get if he went to FA and while he says he would like to stay, OL gets massively overpaid in FA and I see no difference with Taylor.
I'd like to keep Key if we could but think it would depend if they try and do more restructurings. They seem to have a plan for the cap which is a pleasant surprise but if we cut Griffin we are around $5m under the cap I think so still need more for Engram.
I'd like to keep Key as well, but again it comes down to if he's willing to take a pay cut to stay. He'll likely get some good offers on the open market as well.
(02-28-2023, 12:32 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2023, 12:27 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Thats been my thinking with Taylor. We can't pay anywhere near what he would get if he went to FA and while he says he would like to stay, OL gets massively overpaid in FA and I see no difference with Taylor.
I'd like to keep Key if we could but think it would depend if they try and do more restructurings. They seem to have a plan for the cap which is a pleasant surprise but if we cut Griffin we are around $5m under the cap I think so still need more for Engram.
I'd like to keep Key as well, but again it comes down to if he's willing to take a pay cut to stay. He'll likely get some good offers on the open market as well.
It seems so. There are a few teams that are going to have to make quite a few cuts to get under the cap but a lot of teams with plenty to spend and you can never have enough good pass rushers. I'm waiting to see what they offer/pay Engram but I'm holding out hope that if Key hits FA he maybe doesn't get that big offer and we can bring him back.
Can't see it happening but I can hope!
is there any shot in hades we land Hargrave?
(02-26-2023, 10:37 PM)ShivanWurm Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2023, 06:11 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]The Jags can cut him anytime, so I don't think they feel any rush. I'm sure it is a matter of time.
Don’t suppose there is any chance we are looking for a trade partner for him? Long shot, but I’ll take a extra 7th instead of just cutting him.
He was a solid cb. I have to guess that he could have really been hurt. I know a lot of people got upset about him being burnt, and I understand that, but it’s hard to believe he fell off that fast. He looked decent in the season before. Who knows.
(02-26-2023, 07:01 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2023, 06:11 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]The Jags can cut him anytime, so I don't think they feel any rush. I'm sure it is a matter of time.
With the off-season so far, especially the Beathard move, it wouldn't shock me for them to extend Griffin, instead of cutting him.
Haha
