(07-28-2023, 07:13 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-28-2023, 04:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sorry, your race card has been declined. Do you have another form of grievance you can use today?
You can't dispute his first four sentences.
I was all set to agree with those 1st few sentences and interject about balance with evidence of the current occupant of the WH and corruption and then, well…
(07-28-2023, 07:51 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (07-28-2023, 04:11 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]If Epstein were alive today, he wouldn't be talking.
If there really were teams of assassins able to spoof cameras in jails and break in and murder people and break back out leaving behind no witnesses or evidence, and those teams wanted Epstein dead, they would have done so back before he went to Rikers. Easier that way.
There was no need to kill him, and if there was, it would have been handled much differently.
Mike I really keep trying to understand your perspective however, on this topic are you (insert profanity here) kidding me?
Explain to me your theory of what happened and why. Be specific.
Epstein was incarcerated in New York from July 6 to his death on August 10.
Why didn't he say anything revealing his secret elite pedo club during those 35 days? Given that he didn't, if he was still alive, why do you think he would have blabbed by now?
If you think it's possible some secret assassin killed him without leaving evidence, why do you think it's impossible that someone might have gotten him out of jail and brought him safely to a non extradition country? In other words, if you think everything you were told about August 10 2019 is wrong, are you sure he's even dead?
At least you're comfortable in your ignorance.
(07-28-2023, 08:44 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-28-2023, 07:51 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Mike I really keep trying to understand your perspective however, on this topic are you (insert profanity here) kidding me?
Explain to me your theory of what happened and why. Be specific.
Epstein was incarcerated in New York from July 6 to his death on August 10.
Why didn't he say anything revealing his secret elite pedo club during those 35 days? Given that he didn't, if he was still alive, why do you think he would have blabbed by now?
If you think it's possible some secret assassin killed him without leaving evidence, why do you think it's impossible that someone might have gotten him out of jail and brought him safely to a non extradition country? In other words, if you think everything you were told about August 10 2019 is wrong, are you sure he's even dead?
Specific? No, I can’t be specific in the manner you seek. What I can do is ask questions and draw my own conclusions which lead to more questions. In honor of your question let’s review the circumstances and sprinkle in a few facts. Epstein had a resort on an island that offered discreet sexual access to minors for a fee. True or false? If true, who was visiting his island resort? If false why was he arrested? After his arrest, how could a man on suicide watch, in what was supposedly solitary confinement, under video surveillance commit suicide? Are you asking me, with your above average IQ to believe that it was just a coincidence that the person in charge of his surveillance stepped away at the exact same time that the video surveillance magically malfunctioned? You are an engineer Mike. Critical thinking should be your wheel house yet you don’t question any of this?
(07-28-2023, 10:11 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (07-28-2023, 08:44 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Explain to me your theory of what happened and why. Be specific.
Epstein was incarcerated in New York from July 6 to his death on August 10.
Why didn't he say anything revealing his secret elite pedo club during those 35 days? Given that he didn't, if he was still alive, why do you think he would have blabbed by now?
If you think it's possible some secret assassin killed him without leaving evidence, why do you think it's impossible that someone might have gotten him out of jail and brought him safely to a non extradition country? In other words, if you think everything you were told about August 10 2019 is wrong, are you sure he's even dead?
Specific? No, I can’t be specific in the manner you seek. What I can do is ask questions and draw my own conclusions which lead to more questions. In honor of your question let’s review the circumstances and sprinkle in a few facts. Epstein had a resort on an island that offered discreet sexual access to minors for a fee. True or false? If true, who was visiting his island resort? If false why was he arrested? After his arrest, how could a man on suicide watch, in what was supposedly solitary confinement, under video surveillance commit suicide? Are you asking me, with your above average IQ to believe that it was just a coincidence that the person in charge of his surveillance stepped away at the exact same time that the video surveillance magically malfunctioned? You are an engineer Mike. Critical thinking should be your wheel house yet you don’t question any of this?
Epstein was arrested in 2019 on suspicion of possession of child pornography, ample quantities of which were reportedly found at his home afterwards.
We agree Epstein was there.
We agree that someone was supposed to be checking the cameras, and that person failed to do so.
I say that's the end of the story. If you give a guy a crappy job like watching a pedophile sleep and keeping him alive, he's going to mentally rebel and do the job poorly. Even perhaps with malice. You don't have to believe Epstein had dirt on you to want him dead. Most of us wanted that man's genitals slowly smashed in a lemon juicer.
But you take that simple story and insist on adding multiple imaginary people with imaginary motives to it. It's bizarre to me. Hanlon's razor, homie.
(07-28-2023, 07:51 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (07-28-2023, 04:11 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]If Epstein were alive today, he wouldn't be talking.
If there really were teams of assassins able to spoof cameras in jails and break in and murder people and break back out leaving behind no witnesses or evidence, and those teams wanted Epstein dead, they would have done so back before he went to Rikers. Easier that way.
There was no need to kill him, and if there was, it would have been handled much differently.
Mike I really keep trying to understand your perspective however, on this topic are you (insert profanity here) kidding me?
You can only understand his "perspective" when you realize that he only posts to be contrarian. He doesn't really believe any of what he writes, he just trolls for the LOLs.
Not sure how this got onto Epstein, but I may be the furthest thing from a conspiracy theorist this forum likely sees posts from.
And... Uh... I think a healthy number of wealthy people and some "important" wealthy people wanted that guy dead in case he ever decided to flap his gums.
Could he have died without their help and influence? Sure.
Could he have been killed because they wanted him dead? Yes, also very possible.
(07-29-2023, 01:27 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-28-2023, 07:51 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Mike I really keep trying to understand your perspective however, on this topic are you (insert profanity here) kidding me?
You can only understand his "perspective" when you realize that he only posts to be contrarian. He doesn't really believe any of what he writes, he just trolls for the LOLs.
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
As soon as you say something true I will agree with you.
(07-29-2023, 01:27 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-28-2023, 07:51 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Mike I really keep trying to understand your perspective however, on this topic are you (insert profanity here) kidding me?
You can only understand his "perspective" when you realize that he only posts to be contrarian. He doesn't really believe any of what he writes, he just trolls for the LOLs.
Trolling for lols is now a career for some of us..
(07-28-2023, 11:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-28-2023, 10:11 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Specific? No, I can’t be specific in the manner you seek. What I can do is ask questions and draw my own conclusions which lead to more questions. In honor of your question let’s review the circumstances and sprinkle in a few facts. Epstein had a resort on an island that offered discreet sexual access to minors for a fee. True or false? If true, who was visiting his island resort? If false why was he arrested? After his arrest, how could a man on suicide watch, in what was supposedly solitary confinement, under video surveillance commit suicide? Are you asking me, with your above average IQ to believe that it was just a coincidence that the person in charge of his surveillance stepped away at the exact same time that the video surveillance magically malfunctioned? You are an engineer Mike. Critical thinking should be your wheel house yet you don’t question any of this?
Epstein was arrested in 2019 on suspicion of possession of child pornography, ample quantities of which were reportedly found at his home afterwards.
We agree Epstein was there.
We agree that someone was supposed to be checking the cameras, and that person failed to do so.
I say that's the end of the story. If you give a guy a crappy job like watching a pedophile sleep and keeping him alive, he's going to mentally rebel and do the job poorly. Even perhaps with malice. You don't have to believe Epstein had dirt on you to want him dead. Most of us wanted that man's genitals slowly smashed in a lemon juicer.
But you take that simple story and insist on adding multiple imaginary people with imaginary motives to it. It's bizarre to me. Hanlon's razor, homie.
The man had an island that the rich, famous and heads of state frequented. Who were they? You wanted him drawn and quartered but what about his clients? How many people could have been brought down with that list? But hey “they” told you this was all on the up and up, no need to question anything.
(07-30-2023, 07:59 AM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (07-28-2023, 11:03 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Epstein was arrested in 2019 on suspicion of possession of child pornography, ample quantities of which were reportedly found at his home afterwards.
We agree Epstein was there.
We agree that someone was supposed to be checking the cameras, and that person failed to do so.
I say that's the end of the story. If you give a guy a crappy job like watching a pedophile sleep and keeping him alive, he's going to mentally rebel and do the job poorly. Even perhaps with malice. You don't have to believe Epstein had dirt on you to want him dead. Most of us wanted that man's genitals slowly smashed in a lemon juicer.
But you take that simple story and insist on adding multiple imaginary people with imaginary motives to it. It's bizarre to me. Hanlon's razor, homie.
The man had an island that the rich, famous and heads of state frequented. Who were they? You wanted him drawn and quartered but what about his clients? How many people could have been brought down with that list? But hey “they” told you this was all on the up and up, no need to question anything.
We have those flight records.
Donald Trump and Bill Clinton each went multiple times. Does that prove they are pedophiles, in your mind?
(07-30-2023, 08:48 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-30-2023, 07:59 AM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]The man had an island that the rich, famous and heads of state frequented. Who were they? You wanted him drawn and quartered but what about his clients? How many people could have been brought down with that list? But hey “they” told you this was all on the up and up, no need to question anything.
We have those flight records.
Donald Trump and Bill Clinton each went multiple times. Does that prove they are pedophiles, in your mind?
Why are you lying about the flight logs? You know Trump hasn't gone to the island and only few from FL to NJ or the other way which ever it was 1 time. He also was the only one willing to talk.
The rest claim it wasn't them, ignore it completely, or say nothing happened.
Not sure how you can be convicted of trafficking to no one. Then none of the people where ever charged because they are all protected.
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(07-30-2023, 08:24 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (07-30-2023, 08:48 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]We have those flight records.
Donald Trump and Bill Clinton each went multiple times. Does that prove they are pedophiles, in your mind?
Link
First Google result:
https://www.newsweek.com/who-flew-jeffre...ed-1654827
(07-30-2023, 06:09 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (07-30-2023, 08:48 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]We have those flight records.
Donald Trump and Bill Clinton each went multiple times. Does that prove they are pedophiles, in your mind?
Why are you lying about the flight logs? You know Trump hasn't gone to the island and only few from FL to NJ or the other way which ever it was 1 time. He also was the only one willing to talk.
The rest claim it wasn't them, ignore it completely, or say nothing happened.
Not sure how you can be convicted of trafficking to no one. Then none of the people where ever charged because they are all protected.
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Donald Trump took 7 trips on that plane.