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(09-13-2023, 07:21 PM)MojoKing Wrote: [ -> ]Can we get Linder out of retirement?

Last time I saw him he had dropped probably 100 pounds or more and was looking lean and happy on a boat catching red drum. He's not coming back.

I think we’re going to see our D step up big time to keep us in the game. Pederson and Taylor will pull out all stops on offense.

‘Philly Philly?’
‘Yeah, let’s go with that.’

(09-13-2023, 03:27 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-13-2023, 02:06 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]He has a torn ACL.

Really? oh only added value to Baalkie

Got a tarp joke you wanna make while you're riffing?

Wouldn’t it be great to see Josh Allen have one of his good games against KC? Granted, getting to Mahomes is a new level of challenge, but if anyone is capable of doing it, Allen is. He needs to channel his inner water boy and picture Josh Allen’s head on the shoulders of Mahomes.

https://jacksonville-fl.newsmemory.com/?...27_134ad26

(09-14-2023, 07:57 AM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]I think the Jags win in front of the home crowd.  Team wants to prove it got over the hump that is KC.

So in the span of eight hours we’re going to get smoked and we’re going to win?  Which is it?

(09-14-2023, 09:10 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldn’t it be great to see Josh Allen have one of his good games against KC? Granted, getting to Mahomes is a new level of challenge, but if anyone is capable of doing it, Allen is. He needs to channel his inner water boy and picture Josh Allen’s head on the shoulders of Mahomes.

https://jacksonville-fl.newsmemory.com/?...27_134ad26

Allen to J Taylor come Sunday.

(09-14-2023, 06:45 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-13-2023, 09:02 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Unfortunately with the O-Line in the condition it’s in I think the Chiefs will beat us handily. I won’t say it will be a blow out, but I don’t think they will sweat too much easily. We will see

You may be right. KC is going to be desperate to avoid 0-2 and will have a boost with Jones and Kelce returning. Also sounds like our normal September game heat will be comparatively mild. It will be challenging. I think we can win but if I were betting, I’d expect a 10 point loss. Maybe they’ll surprise us though, this is a very different team than years past even with the patchwork OL.

I think I've listened to 30 interviews with Andy Reid. 
Probably watched 60-70 games that he's coached. 

I don't ever remember a single second of hearing him speak or watching his demeanor and picking up on "desperate" from him.  

I doubt that is the tone in that locker room.

They are the Super Bowl champs coming to a team they just beat twice last year. What are they supposed to be desperate about exactly? They are the favored team in this game.

(09-14-2023, 09:57 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-14-2023, 06:45 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]You may be right. KC is going to be desperate to avoid 0-2 and will have a boost with Jones and Kelce returning. Also sounds like our normal September game heat will be comparatively mild. It will be challenging. I think we can win but if I were betting, I’d expect a 10 point loss. Maybe they’ll surprise us though, this is a very different team than years past even with the patchwork OL.

I think I've listened to 30 interviews with Andy Reid. 
Probably watched 60-70 games that he's coached. 

I don't ever remember a single second of hearing him speak or watching his demeanor and picking up on "desperate" from him.  

I doubt that is the tone in that locker room.

They are the Super Bowl champs coming to a team they just beat twice last year. What are they supposed to be desperate about exactly? They are the favored team in this game.

Maybe desperate is the wrong word but they were surprised against the Lions and going 0-2 against two teams they (which includes the players as well) probably feel they are superior to will really sting their pride. They want to avoid that at all costs. Call it extra-motivation. If they go down by two games to the Jags with the Jags having the potential tie breaker, their goal of winning the number one seed are in early jeopardy.

(09-14-2023, 09:10 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldn’t it be great to see Josh Allen have one of his good games against KC? Granted, getting to Mahomes is a new level of challenge, but if anyone is capable of doing it, Allen is. He needs to channel his inner water boy and picture Josh Allen’s head on the shoulders of Mahomes.

https://jacksonville-fl.newsmemory.com/?...27_134ad26

That'd be nice.  Josh Allen was at the little pre-home opener thing they had for season ticket holders at the stadium Tuesday night.  There was a line of thousands of fans shaking hands with him and taking pictures with him.  Though with COVID apparently spiking again, I couldn't help but have some concern for his short term health and by extension the team's.  Hope nobody on the team pops up "ill" between now and kickoff.

I've gone back and forth on the eventual outcome of this game. Had Jones and Kelce been out, I'd have definitely gone with the Jaguars. Now that both are likely to play, the big question is how they'll perform coming back from injury (Kelce) and holdout (Jones). Hopefully it will be very sunny and hot since I do believe fatigue can be a factor for these two. What is most concerning, however, is the matchup advantage the Chiefs will have going up against our offensive line. This line is not great under the best of circumstances, but with Scherff and Fortner both banged up it will be extremely tough to protect Lawrence and open up holes for Etienne. Whoever ends up playing guard and center will need to step up big time. Can a potential line of Little, Bartch, Shatley, Hance and Harrison contain Jones and the Chiefs pass rush? If Fortner and Scherff aren't ready to go, the line could actually look like this. Scherff's absence would hurt most since Harrison has been helped by having this veteran by his side. While not impossible, my head says this matchup would be very difficult for the Jaguars to overcome on Sunday. In addition to this, I'm not confident that Trey Herndon can keep up with the Chiefs speedy slot players. As horribly as they played against the Lions, Toney, Moore and Rice are very quick and I see them being prime targets for Mahomes on Sunday.

(09-14-2023, 01:51 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]I've gone back and forth on the eventual outcome of this game. Had Jones and Kelce been out, I'd have definitely gone with the Jaguars. Now that both are likely to play, the big question is how they'll perform coming back from injury (Kelce) and holdout (Jones). Hopefully it will be very sunny and hot since I do believe fatigue can be a factor for these two. What is most concerning, however, is the matchup advantage the Chiefs will have going up against our offensive line. This line is not great under the best of circumstances, but with Scherff and Fortner both banged up it will be extremely tough to protect Lawrence and open up holes for Etienne. Whoever ends up playing guard and center will need to step up big time. Can a potential line of Little, Bartch, Shatley, Hance and Harrison contain Jones and the Chiefs pass rush? If Fortner and Scherff aren't ready to go, the line could actually look like this. Scherff's absence would hurt most since Harrison has been helped by having this veteran by his side. While not impossible, my head says this matchup would be very difficult for the Jaguars to overcome on Sunday. In addition to this, I'm not confident that Trey Herndon can keep up with the Chiefs speedy slot players. As horribly as they played against the Lions, Toney, Moore and Rice are very quick and I see them being prime targets for Mahomes on Sunday.

Yeah. We have the same thoughts on this game. Precisely really. We know Mahomes is going to make his plays. There's just no getting around it. It's rare he's ever out of a game. His ability to create and strike quickly are in a class of it's own.

We're supposed to have the offense this year to keep pace with him and his offense. A lot of that was hitched to whether or not an already suspect offensive line could hold up and keep Lawrence upright or in the pocket comfortably. Once these little nicks and cracks start to appear our chances go down.

It's going to have to fall squarely on really three players for me in this game.

Josh Allen
Trevor Lawrence
Travon Walker

That's all I can wrap my head around. Those three guys all have to be on their A game to win this one. Josh and Travon have to not only put Mahomes in the dirt, they also have to contain him inside the pocket. Lawrence, who will undoubtedly not have the same luxury of competent, consistent offensive line play this Sunday will have to more than likely run his [BLEEP] off to keep the chains moving but he'll have to essentially play like Mahomes. Rollout, dip, duck and dodge. Move the pressure one way, etc. 

Tough order ahead of this team. I will be shocked if they win it. I think we'll either win by 3 to the tune of 31 to 28, or, it'll be very much like the last two outings where the game looks close on the scoreboard but it felt like in both outings that the Chiefs were always comfortably just a step or two ahead of us and in control the majority of the time. 

Either way. It'll be a fun game.

The thing I kept thinking to myself last week was how much the route running of our receivers didn't look anything like what we saw last year.

Last year, there were crossing routes, there were 3 tiered level options for Trevor, and there was misdirection on at least down per sequence. On top of that, I don't remember ever being able to predict a run/run/Pass sequence in 2022. And even more concerning, in the first quarter, we saw a bubble screen that was blown up. And then on 4th and short in the 2nd half we saw a similar bubble screen that was blown up. Oh and don't get me started on the 3rd and 3 QB sneak, whether it was an audible or an actual play call matters not. If at any point the OC had ingrained into Trevor Lawrence that a 3rd and long 2 is a perfectly fine time to audible to a QB dive, that OC is suspect. If the OC called that QB dive on 3rd and a long 2? That's gotta be something to be concerned about.

So on to KC. A dynamic QB, a HC that is on par with our HC. An offense that is getting back their best receiver. A defense that is getting back their best pass rusher at a time when our O-Line is getting more and more knicked up... It's gonna be a tough game to win.

Our QB has to keep up with KC's offense. It's a tough ask. But I think we match up pretty evenly with these guys. Our receivers are just as good if not better than theirs. Our TE is maybe a tier lower, but our QB has better slot and wide outs. So long as the play calling is more like last year and less conservative like last week, we can keep it close into the 4th quarter. If we keep it close, the home field advantage can get us the win.

Oh, and Jawaan Taylor... His [BLEEP] needs to be called out. If they force him to actually play on the line and not false start, we have a really good chance to be defensively competent.

(09-14-2023, 03:09 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]The thing I kept thinking to myself last week was how much the route running of our receivers didn't look anything like what we saw last year. 

Last year, there were crossing routes, there were 3 tiered level options for Trevor, and there was misdirection on at least down per sequence.  On top of that, I don't remember ever being able to predict a run/run/Pass sequence in 2022.  And even more concerning, in the first quarter, we saw a bubble screen that was blown up.  And then on 4th and short in the 2nd half we saw a similar bubble screen that was blown up.  Oh and don't get me started on the 3rd and 3 QB sneak, whether it was an audible or an actual play call matters not.  If at any point the OC had ingrained into Trevor Lawrence that a 3rd and long 2 is a perfectly fine time to audible to a QB dive, that OC is suspect.  If the OC called that QB dive on 3rd and a long 2?  That's gotta be something to be concerned about.

So on to KC.  A dynamic QB, a HC that is on par with our HC.  An offense that is getting back their best receiver.  A defense that is getting back their best pass rusher at a time when our O-Line is getting more and more knicked up...  It's gonna be a tough game to win. 

Our QB has to keep up with KC's offense.  It's a tough ask.  But I think we match up pretty evenly with these guys.  Our receivers are just as good if not better than theirs.  Our TE is maybe a tier lower, but our QB has better slot and wide outs. So long as the play calling is more like last year and less conservative like last week, we can keep it close into the 4th quarter.  If we keep it close, the home field advantage can get us the win.

Oh, and Jawaan Taylor...  His [BLEEP] needs to be called out.  If they force him to actually play on the line and not false start, we have a really good chance to be defensively competent.

It's one game

They now have a guy who can play X at a high level and Trevor was excited to feed him. 

They game plan differently every week 

You're reading way too much into it. It's the same offense with another premium target and hopefully a better spellback. They didn't re-write the playbook. They simply game planned for the colts differently than your preconceived notion based on how you think they did it last year. 

Just to show you how wrong you are with your run/run/pass misanalysis: 

Jags drive balance:
series one

PASS
PASS 
PASS

series two
RUN
PASS
RPO
PASS
PASS
RUN
GADGET TOSS 
PASS 
PASS (TD)

series three
RUN (8 yds)
PASS
RUN
PASS (tipped INT)

series four

RUN
RUN 
RUN

series five

PASS
RUN
RUN (1ST DOWN)
RUN
PASS
GADGET TOSS
PASS (TD) 

series 6

PASS
RUN
PASS
PASS
RUN
PASS (sacked on pass attempt)

series 7

RUN
PASS
PASS

OK - hopefully you are beginning to see the balance and how wrong your analysis is. 
They also had pre snap movement on 20-30% of the plays I just scrolled through in the first half.

(09-14-2023, 04:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-14-2023, 03:09 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]The thing I kept thinking to myself last week was how much the route running of our receivers didn't look anything like what we saw last year. 

Last year, there were crossing routes, there were 3 tiered level options for Trevor, and there was misdirection on at least down per sequence.  On top of that, I don't remember ever being able to predict a run/run/Pass sequence in 2022.  And even more concerning, in the first quarter, we saw a bubble screen that was blown up.  And then on 4th and short in the 2nd half we saw a similar bubble screen that was blown up.  Oh and don't get me started on the 3rd and 3 QB sneak, whether it was an audible or an actual play call matters not.  If at any point the OC had ingrained into Trevor Lawrence that a 3rd and long 2 is a perfectly fine time to audible to a QB dive, that OC is suspect.  If the OC called that QB dive on 3rd and a long 2?  That's gotta be something to be concerned about.

So on to KC.  A dynamic QB, a HC that is on par with our HC.  An offense that is getting back their best receiver.  A defense that is getting back their best pass rusher at a time when our O-Line is getting more and more knicked up...  It's gonna be a tough game to win. 

Our QB has to keep up with KC's offense.  It's a tough ask.  But I think we match up pretty evenly with these guys.  Our receivers are just as good if not better than theirs.  Our TE is maybe a tier lower, but our QB has better slot and wide outs. So long as the play calling is more like last year and less conservative like last week, we can keep it close into the 4th quarter.  If we keep it close, the home field advantage can get us the win.

Oh, and Jawaan Taylor...  His [BLEEP] needs to be called out.  If they force him to actually play on the line and not false start, we have a really good chance to be defensively competent.

It's one game

They now have a guy who can play X at a high level and Trevor was excited to feed him. 

They game plan differently every week 

You're reading way too much into it. It's the same offense with another premium target and hopefully a better spellback. They didn't re-write the playbook. They simply game planned for the colts differently than your preconceived notion based on how you think they did it last year. 

Just to show you how wrong you are with your run/run/pass misanalysis: 

Jags drive balance:
series one

PASS
PASS 
PASS

series two
RUN
PASS
RPO
PASS
PASS
RUN
GADGET TOSS 
PASS 
PASS (TD)

series three
RUN (8 yds)
PASS
RUN
PASS (tipped INT)

series four

RUN
RUN 
RUN

series five

PASS
RUN
RUN (1ST DOWN)
RUN
PASS
GADGET TOSS
PASS (TD) 

series 6

PASS
RUN
PASS
PASS
RUN
PASS (sacked on pass attempt)

series 7

RUN
PASS
PASS

OK - hopefully you are beginning to see the balance and how wrong your analysis is. 
They also had pre snap movement on 20-30% of the plays I just scrolled through in the first half.

Agreed. They usually run a well balanced game play calling wise. I do specifically remember [BLEEP] about series four though in the gameday thread. LOL. I was wondering if it was Jack Del Rio out there in jest. 

The one thing I honestly would like to see more of though is Lawrence doing more with rollouts, designed sprints and bootlegs. I feel like his best throws are honestly when he's on the move and not sitting back in the pocket.

Three of his best four throws in that game came from when he was on the move. The TD to Ridley, the bullet between two defenders to Ridley and a bootleg that ended up in Jones' hands I think at some point in Q4. The other great throw being of course the dime he put on Zay for a TD from the pocket.

(09-14-2023, 04:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-14-2023, 03:09 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]The thing I kept thinking to myself last week was how much the route running of our receivers didn't look anything like what we saw last year. 

Last year, there were crossing routes, there were 3 tiered level options for Trevor, and there was misdirection on at least down per sequence.  On top of that, I don't remember ever being able to predict a run/run/Pass sequence in 2022.  And even more concerning, in the first quarter, we saw a bubble screen that was blown up.  And then on 4th and short in the 2nd half we saw a similar bubble screen that was blown up.  Oh and don't get me started on the 3rd and 3 QB sneak, whether it was an audible or an actual play call matters not.  If at any point the OC had ingrained into Trevor Lawrence that a 3rd and long 2 is a perfectly fine time to audible to a QB dive, that OC is suspect.  If the OC called that QB dive on 3rd and a long 2?  That's gotta be something to be concerned about.

So on to KC.  A dynamic QB, a HC that is on par with our HC.  An offense that is getting back their best receiver.  A defense that is getting back their best pass rusher at a time when our O-Line is getting more and more knicked up...  It's gonna be a tough game to win. 

Our QB has to keep up with KC's offense.  It's a tough ask.  But I think we match up pretty evenly with these guys.  Our receivers are just as good if not better than theirs.  Our TE is maybe a tier lower, but our QB has better slot and wide outs. So long as the play calling is more like last year and less conservative like last week, we can keep it close into the 4th quarter.  If we keep it close, the home field advantage can get us the win.

Oh, and Jawaan Taylor...  His [BLEEP] needs to be called out.  If they force him to actually play on the line and not false start, we have a really good chance to be defensively competent.

It's one game

They now have a guy who can play X at a high level and Trevor was excited to feed him. 

They game plan differently every week 

You're reading way too much into it. It's the same offense with another premium target and hopefully a better spellback. They didn't re-write the playbook. They simply game planned for the colts differently than your preconceived notion based on how you think they did it last year. 

Just to show you how wrong you are with your run/run/pass misanalysis: 

Jags drive balance:
series one

PASS
PASS 
PASS

series two
RUN
PASS
RPO
PASS
PASS
RUN
GADGET TOSS 
PASS 
PASS (TD)

series three
RUN (8 yds)
PASS
RUN
PASS (tipped INT)

series four

RUN
RUN 
RUN

series five

PASS
RUN
RUN (1ST DOWN)
RUN
PASS
GADGET TOSS
PASS (TD) 

series 6

PASS
RUN
PASS
PASS
RUN
PASS (sacked on pass attempt)

series 7

RUN
PASS
PASS

OK - hopefully you are beginning to see the balance and how wrong your analysis is. 
They also had pre snap movement on 20-30% of the plays I just scrolled through in the first half.

Yes.  It was one game.  I'm hoping that this game was conservative because we are saving our real game plan for KC...  But let's not act like this game plan was good.  It wasn't.  Telling me that there were "PASS PASS RUN" instead of "run, run, pass" means nothing, if you are being honest.  The Play calling in the 2nd and 3rd quarters were bad.  Period.  It was easy to sniff out, and if you don't believe that, then I'm not sure you were actually watching the game.  

Again, where were the route concepts from last year????  The entire game was devoid of all the routes that cooked defenses last year.  It was as if they were purposely playing a vanilla game.  If you didn't recognize that, then maybe you weren't really watching last year?

I'm not sure why you think your analysis of the conservative play calling blows up my critique when you give the most basic analysis while not providing the full description of how those "pass" plays were not conservative and easy to defend.   A pass that is behind the line of scrimmage isn't really a pass, is it?  A run play when the colts are stacking the box is a bad play call, isn't it?  

Do you really think that the 3rd Quarter was a well called quarter???  If you actually watched the game, the First Quarter looked pretty solid, though I would also say that our QB was a bit too focused on throwing to Ridley when Kirk was open in the slot a couple times.  But the end of 2nd and all of the 3rd Quarter, in terms of offensive play calling was not good.   

The game was the game.  We out classed the clots.  But the game was close because our offense was conservative and unlike what we saw in 2022.  We pulled away in the 4th quarter when the defense helped us get better field position.  The offensive line hurt Trevor and the entire 3rd quarter was a [BLEEP] show of conservative play calling in order to protect the QB.   

Just because a play call is "PASS", if the "PASS" is a 3 step drop and quick release just 3 yards from the LOS, it may as well be a run play.  And in the 3rd quarter, all those "PASS" plays were squashed because the play calling was soft.  But I'm sure you know better than me why that was.  Either way, the play calling was crap for about 30 minutes.  There's no way you can say otherwise.

We won the game, and that is all that matters.  I'm not down on any of our players.  But the offensive play calling and the route concepts we say in week one were not similar to what we saw last year.  You know it.  I know it.  And it's a concern.

(09-14-2023, 04:51 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-14-2023, 04:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]It's one game

They now have a guy who can play X at a high level and Trevor was excited to feed him. 

They game plan differently every week 

You're reading way too much into it. It's the same offense with another premium target and hopefully a better spellback. They didn't re-write the playbook. They simply game planned for the colts differently than your preconceived notion based on how you think they did it last year. 

Just to show you how wrong you are with your run/run/pass misanalysis: 

Jags drive balance:
series one

PASS
PASS 
PASS

series two
RUN
PASS
RPO
PASS
PASS
RUN
GADGET TOSS 
PASS 
PASS (TD)

series three
RUN (8 yds)
PASS
RUN
PASS (tipped INT)

series four

RUN
RUN 
RUN

series five

PASS
RUN
RUN (1ST DOWN)
RUN
PASS
GADGET TOSS
PASS (TD) 

series 6

PASS
RUN
PASS
PASS
RUN
PASS (sacked on pass attempt)

series 7

RUN
PASS
PASS

OK - hopefully you are beginning to see the balance and how wrong your analysis is. 
They also had pre snap movement on 20-30% of the plays I just scrolled through in the first half.

Yes.  It was one game.  I'm hoping that this game was conservative because we are saving our real game plan for KC...  But let's not act like this game plan was good.  It wasn't.  Telling me that there were "PASS PASS RUN" instead of "run, run, pass" means nothing, if you are being honest.  The Play calling in the 2nd and 3rd quarters were bad.  Period.  It was easy to sniff out, and if you don't believe that, then I'm not sure you were actually watching the game.  

Again, where were the route concepts from last year????  The entire game was devoid of all the routes that cooked defenses last year.  It was as if they were purposely playing a vanilla game.  If you didn't recognize that, then maybe you weren't really watching last year?

I'm not sure why you think your analysis of the conservative play calling blows up my critique when you give the most basic analysis while not providing the full description of how those "pass" plays were not conservative and easy to defend.   A pass that is behind the line of scrimmage isn't really a pass, is it?  A run play when the colts are stacking the box is a bad play call, isn't it?  

Do you really think that the 3rd Quarter was a well called quarter???  If you actually watched the game, the First Quarter looked pretty solid, though I would also say that our QB was a bit too focused on throwing to Ridley when Kirk was open in the slot a couple times.  But the end of 2nd and all of the 3rd Quarter, in terms of offensive play calling was not good.   

The game was the game.  We out classed the clots.  But the game was close because our offense was conservative and unlike what we saw in 2022.  We pulled away in the 4th quarter when the defense helped us get better field position.  The offensive line hurt Trevor and the entire 3rd quarter was a [BLEEP] show of conservative play calling in order to protect the QB.   

Just because a play call is "PASS", if the "PASS" is a 3 step drop and quick release just 3 yards from the LOS, it may as well be a run play.  And in the 3rd quarter, all those "PASS" plays were squashed because the play calling was soft.  But I'm sure you know better than me why that was.  Either way, the play calling was crap for about 30 minutes.  There's no way you can say otherwise. I CAN AND I DID

We won the game, and that is all that matters.  I'm not down on any of our players.  But the offensive play calling and the route concepts we say in week one were not similar to what we saw last year.  You know it.  I know it.  And it's a concern.

LOL

Please tell me you understand we are running the same playbook we ran last year? 

What I KNOW - is that we trotted out a ton of the same stuff and you apparently missed it. 

Here you go: (third quarter routes!)

x and F (really Engram in the Z) on go routes outside - Y on a comeback middle and Z (really Zay in the F) on a deep cross (just like last year) 


X and z run deep outside  - Y (Kirk) on a deep seam - F on a post - just like last year



TE on a depp crosser - X, Y and Z on comebacks (both Zay and Kirk racked up many first downs on these last year) 


ONE MORE COMING

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Same Crossing Route we saw Kirk run last year a gazillion times!!
All of these are from that horribly called third quarter as you call it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCfjYzVR6EA

The first Quarter looked like this... The 2nd and 3rd didn't look like this. And honestly, the 4th Quarter was just us over powering a lesser team.

I'm sorry.

You providing still photos of a game isn't the same as what I watched last year, versus what we all witnessed on Sunday. We won on Sunday, I'm happy for that. But to say that the offense we watched Sunday is as good as what we had last year is just not true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2EbQaISrYM

Start at 9:28 - I don't even remember a throw down the middle of the field The Bunch Formation worked properly. ETN fumbled the ball, but still at least it looked like a potential gainer... That first drive looked very different that what we saw on Sunday. Please don't tell me that you think that the colts out played us. That's the other thing, I don't remember us ever putting motion pre snap...

Down 14, 1st and 10, ETN with an off tackle run. Ballsy move but a great scheme. We went heavy on the left and then pulled Engram to the Strong Side. Then ETN pulled to the off side. That is a great run scheme. A scheme we didn't see at all on Sunday. ETN is the best RB on the team.

Tank's 3rd down run was luck based on an illegal pull forward. Everyone knows it. I was happy the ref's didn't call it, but he was clearly held up and pulled forward.

But I'm sure you have a picture where TANK was moving forward to the goal line. Let's just ignore the illegal pull. Show me, bro. Show me how legal that play was.

33:19 - Another great play call. Misdirection and getting it to our TE. Great call, great execution. Sunday's game? The execution was OK. But we should have done a lot better.

I mean, come one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2EbQaISrYM

Just watch the last hour of this game. I gave you the link. You think what we saw on Sunday looks anything like how we played against the Cowboys? Man, or the Ravens? Or the Chargers?? I'm sure if you go and look for some pictures, you can prove me wrong. But anyone that watched Sundays game is just like me.

We got it together and beat a team we are better than. But we looked sub-optimial against a team that we should be able to outclass early on. No amount of pictures can change that fact when you look at how we performed at the end of the season last year compared to the way we played in week 1.

I just re-read my post. I'm not a hater. But I do think that this current play calling is not good. The offense Week 1 didn't look anything like how Pederson called plays last year. And if it's true that Press Taylor is now calling plays, then I think he needs to stop and learn more from Pederson.

If play calling looks like it did against the colts vs the chiefs, we might have some issues. I think the offense scored points, but it could have been a lot better.