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(01-27-2024, 12:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 12:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Right - how are you going to "get rid of" 90 million Americans that vote or think like me? 

Such a stupid [BLEEP] statement. All this ignorant bluster from dip [BLEEP] who think they are going to start some redneck revolution. Please... 

She's a crappy TV personality turned crappy candidate who clearly can't win anyway. 
Someone wants to pay her off to stay out of the way. 
Big whoop.

I was speaking in the government sense.. 

Why don't you bookmark this thread, that way, you can come back at me in a few years with a so called 'gotcha' post to help wash away that clownish, butthurt feeling that you lug around with ya.

Such a crappy candidate that she was bribed with millions lol

[BLEEP] clown as usual..

How 'bout you let me know when Kari [BLEEP] Lake is coming to "get rid of me" 

LOLOLOLOL

Your words, not mine. Total joke.
I just picture him (NYC) laughing maniacally while looking at pictures of Trump with the eyes cut out.
(01-27-2024, 12:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 12:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I was speaking in the government sense.. 

Why don't you bookmark this thread, that way, you can come back at me in a few years with a so called 'gotcha' post to help wash away that clownish, butthurt feeling that you lug around with ya.

Such a crappy candidate that she was bribed with millions lol

[BLEEP] clown as usual..

How 'bout you let me know when Kari [BLEEP] Lake is coming to "get rid of me" 

LOLOLOLOL

Your words, not mine. Total joke.

Meanwhile, you ilkish clowns want to get rid of people who don't accept bribes..

Par the course of the 'people' who [BLEEP] this country up in the first place..

Got your nose, Bozo.
(01-27-2024, 11:07 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 10:55 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Every government and every society in all of human history has had some level of corruption.  Any student of history knows this.  And any student of history knows that our society and government is no more corrupt now than it has been in the past. 

Governments are run by human beings, with all their inherent weaknesses.  No party or faction has a monopoly on greed and dishonesty.  It's just something we have to deal with.  It will never stop.  Make laws and try to enforce them.  That's all you can do.

Do powerful people have a "globalist agenda?"  It depends on your definition of globalist agenda.  A lot of powerful people believe in free trade, because they are capitalists, and they believe, with a lot of justification, that free trade is not only good for them, but good for everyone in general.

Cool.

So watch the US fall because we cannot compete with slave labor. Period.

That's a gray area.  We impose tariffs and sanctions on foreign corporations that are known to produce their exports with prison labor or other forces labor.  Sometimes we magically look the other way, but sometimes we don't.
(01-27-2024, 12:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 12:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Right - how are you going to "get rid of" 90 million Americans that vote or think like me? 

Such a stupid [BLEEP] statement. All this ignorant bluster from dip [BLEEP] who think they are going to start some redneck revolution. Please... 

She's a crappy TV personality turned crappy candidate who clearly can't win anyway. 
Someone wants to pay her off to stay out of the way. 
Big whoop.

I was speaking in the government sense.. 

Why don't you bookmark this thread, that way, you can come back at me in a few years with a so called 'gotcha' post to help wash away that clownish, butthurt feeling that you lug around with ya.

Such a crappy candidate that she was bribed with millions lol

[BLEEP] clown as usual..

Kari is good enough to probably win the Republican primary. She did before.
She is probably going to lose in the general, as she did before.
That's a pretty crappy candidate.
A rational Republican party in a winnable state only wants to nominate candidates who can win.
(01-27-2024, 02:21 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 12:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I was speaking in the government sense.. 

Why don't you bookmark this thread, that way, you can come back at me in a few years with a so called 'gotcha' post to help wash away that clownish, butthurt feeling that you lug around with ya.

Such a crappy candidate that she was bribed with millions lol

[BLEEP] clown as usual..

Kari is good enough to probably win the Republican primary. She did before.
She is probably going to lose in the general, as she did before.
That's a pretty crappy candidate.
A rational Republican party in a winnable state only wants to nominate candidates who can win.

She'll win the general election this time.. People are wise to the 3am ballot dumps.
(01-27-2024, 02:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 11:07 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]Cool.

So watch the US fall because we cannot compete with slave labor. Period.

That's a gray area.  We impose tariffs and sanctions on foreign corporations that are known to produce their exports with prison labor or other forces labor.  Sometimes we magically look the other way, but sometimes we don't.

Yep, we sanction the hell out of Nike and Apple.

I know they're US companies.. but they are part of the problem.

Another part of the problem is we don't make anything anymore. We are a country of salespeople
(01-27-2024, 02:46 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 02:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]That's a gray area.  We impose tariffs and sanctions on foreign corporations that are known to produce their exports with prison labor or other forces labor.  Sometimes we magically look the other way, but sometimes we don't.

Yep, we sanction the hell out of Nike and Apple.

I know they're US companies.. but they are part of the problem.

Another part of the problem is we don't make anything anymore. We are a country of salespeople

Selling nothing but imports..
(01-27-2024, 12:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 11:39 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Well when that bull [BLEEP] candidate would like nothing more than to get rid of clowns like you, gotta vote for him.

Right - how are you going to "get rid of" 90 million Americans that vote or think like me? 

Such a stupid [BLEEP] statement. All this ignorant bluster from dip [BLEEP] who think they are going to start some redneck revolution. Please... 

She's a crappy TV personality turned crappy candidate who clearly can't win anyway. 
Someone wants to pay her off to stay out of the way. 
Big whoop.

"Just who do those bloody colonials think they are? Don't they know that the British Empire is the foremost power around the globe?" - NYC circa 1776
(01-27-2024, 04:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 12:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Right - how are you going to "get rid of" 90 million Americans that vote or think like me? 

Such a stupid [BLEEP] statement. All this ignorant bluster from dip [BLEEP] who think they are going to start some redneck revolution. Please... 

She's a crappy TV personality turned crappy candidate who clearly can't win anyway. 
Someone wants to pay her off to stay out of the way. 
Big whoop.

"Just who do those bloody colonials think they are? Don't they know that the British Empire is the foremost power around the globe?" - NYC circa 1776

Those NY elitists will be the first to go. Ironically 'neutralized' by their own security
(01-27-2024, 02:46 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 02:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]That's a gray area.  We impose tariffs and sanctions on foreign corporations that are known to produce their exports with prison labor or other forces labor.  Sometimes we magically look the other way, but sometimes we don't.

Yep, we sanction the hell out of Nike and Apple.

I know they're US companies.. but they are part of the problem.

Another part of the problem is we don't make anything anymore. We are a country of salespeople

There are suppliers in China that Nike and Apple and other companies that wish to market in the US are no longer able to work with. A lot of it is connected to Xinjiang where most of the forced labor in China is taking place.
(01-27-2024, 05:28 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 02:46 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: [ -> ]Yep, we sanction the hell out of Nike and Apple.

I know they're US companies.. but they are part of the problem.

Another part of the problem is we don't make anything anymore. We are a country of salespeople

There are suppliers in China that Nike and Apple and other companies that wish to market in the US are no longer able to work with. A lot of it is connected to Xinjiang where most of the forced labor in China is taking place.

They have literal concentration camps..

Forced labor is a vacation in comparison.

It's just impossible to deal with a country like that
(01-27-2024, 04:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 12:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Right - how are you going to "get rid of" 90 million Americans that vote or think like me? 

Such a stupid [BLEEP] statement. All this ignorant bluster from dip [BLEEP] who think they are going to start some redneck revolution. Please... 

She's a crappy TV personality turned crappy candidate who clearly can't win anyway. 
Someone wants to pay her off to stay out of the way. 
Big whoop.

"Just who do those bloody colonials think they are? Don't they know that the British Empire is the foremost power around the globe?" - NYC circa 1776

I love it when you get honest and come out with it in the open.  Violent disobedience is what you want. Revolution.  But only from people you agree with!
(01-27-2024, 04:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 12:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Right - how are you going to "get rid of" 90 million Americans that vote or think like me? 

Such a stupid [BLEEP] statement. All this ignorant bluster from dip [BLEEP] who think they are going to start some redneck revolution. Please... 

She's a crappy TV personality turned crappy candidate who clearly can't win anyway. 
Someone wants to pay her off to stay out of the way. 
Big whoop.

"Just who do those bloody colonials think they are? Don't they know that the British Empire is the foremost power around the globe?" - NYC circa 1776

An educated populace with integrity should prevent this from ever happening. I think we could still do it if enough citizens became outraged about our current state of politics. Unfortunately, we have a largely placated population, as evidenced in this thread. Trump isn't the answer, but he's not the enemy. The sooner people realized that and put in an American first President and politicians, we could start righting the ship. Not people with a D next to their name. Not people with an R. Just people who believe in the constitution, meritocracy, transparency, and equality under the law.
(01-27-2024, 06:09 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 04:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]"Just who do those bloody colonials think they are? Don't they know that the British Empire is the foremost power around the globe?" - NYC circa 1776

An educated populace with integrity should prevent this from ever happening. I think we could still do it if enough citizens became outraged about our current state of politics. Unfortunately, we have a largely placated population, as evidenced in this thread. Trump isn't the answer, but he's not the enemy. The sooner people realized that and put in an American first President and politicians, we could start righting the ship. Not people with a D next to their name. Not people with an R. Just people who believe in the constitution, meritocracy, transparency, and equality under the law.

You're right that the liberals over-emphasize Trump's monetary corruption, when their own house is absolutely filthy in terms of politicians getting rich off power.

You're wrong that this is even in the top ten list of current problems for the government to solve, and you're wrong that we can actually solve it.  Even the violent revolution FSG wants will just leave a new class skimming from the top.
(01-27-2024, 05:31 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 04:12 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]"Just who do those bloody colonials think they are? Don't they know that the British Empire is the foremost power around the globe?" - NYC circa 1776

I love it when you get honest and come out with it in the open.  Violent disobedience is what you want. Revolution.  But only from people you agree with!

I was responding to NYC's take that "rednecks" have no hope of correcting this government by force. It's been said before and it was just as wrong back then.

I don't want a civil war, but it seems it will be foisted upon us no less. Rather get it over with so we can get the rebuilding underway.
(01-27-2024, 10:55 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Every government and every society in all of human history has had some level of corruption.  Any student of history knows this.  And any student of history knows that our society and government is no more corrupt now than it has been in the past. 

Governments are run by human beings, with all their inherent weaknesses.  No party or faction has a monopoly on greed and dishonesty.  It's just something we have to deal with.  It will never stop.  Make laws and try to enforce them.  That's all you can do.

Do powerful people have a "globalist agenda?"  It depends on your definition of globalist agenda.  A lot of powerful people believe in free trade, because they are capitalists, and they believe, with a lot of justification, that free trade is not only good for them, but good for everyone in general.

Morality kept the inherent weakness of man in check.  As society has continued to redefine what is moral and just corruption itself has been redefined.  The very things you defend and justify today, 50 years ago would be considered unacceptable.
(01-27-2024, 09:17 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 10:55 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Every government and every society in all of human history has had some level of corruption.  Any student of history knows this.  And any student of history knows that our society and government is no more corrupt now than it has been in the past. 

Governments are run by human beings, with all their inherent weaknesses.  No party or faction has a monopoly on greed and dishonesty.  It's just something we have to deal with.  It will never stop.  Make laws and try to enforce them.  That's all you can do.

Do powerful people have a "globalist agenda?"  It depends on your definition of globalist agenda.  A lot of powerful people believe in free trade, because they are capitalists, and they believe, with a lot of justification, that free trade is not only good for them, but good for everyone in general.

Morality kept the inherent weakness of man in check.  As society has continued to redefine what is moral and just corruption itself has been redefined.  The very things you defend and justify today, 50 years ago would be considered unacceptable.

The immoral things Marty defends? Is he the one defending a President who has been divorced twice and cheated on his then-pregnant third wife with a porn star?
(01-27-2024, 09:29 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 09:17 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Morality kept the inherent weakness of man in check.  As society has continued to redefine what is moral and just corruption itself has been redefined.  The very things you defend and justify today, 50 years ago would be considered unacceptable.

The immoral things Marty defends? Is he the one defending a President who has been divorced twice and cheated on his then-pregnant third wife with a porn star?

...and lies every time he opens his mouth.
(01-27-2024, 09:29 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2024, 09:17 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Morality kept the inherent weakness of man in check.  As society has continued to redefine what is moral and just corruption itself has been redefined.  The very things you defend and justify today, 50 years ago would be considered unacceptable.

The immoral things Marty defends? Is he the one defending a President who has been divorced twice and cheated on his then-pregnant third wife with a porn star?

Two things, the “you” wasn’t directed at Marty, more self inflection for all to consider.  I could have phrased it better.  Second, not everything is about Trump.  You have to get that man out of your head.
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