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I'm asking why they removed the posts

(03-23-2024, 05:33 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 10:27 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]What was determined about Ivermectin? That it is an effective treatment? Or that it shouldn't be regarded as a drug for horses?

Repeatedly found to have no effect on Covid, whether used early, late, or on mild or severe symptoms. Certainly some folks will never accept that, but it is what it is at this point.

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(03-22-2024, 09:33 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Glad your dad is OK. It wasn't just the government,  as they had foot soldiers, some of which whom live on this board.

Sure thing bro. Ivermectin did not do anything for his relative simply because it could not. No amount of faith can alter reality.

Man, you are really dug in. Why did the remove the posts?  Did you learn anything during this at all?

(03-23-2024, 06:56 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I'm asking why they removed the posts

They settled a lawsuit over 3 year old tweets while standing firm that they did not agree with the plaintiffs allegations. Essentially, the suing doctors claim that those tweets constituted the practice of medicine, which the FDA is not permitted by law. They simply chose not to fight it since it doesn't matter now that Ivermectin has been so thoroughly debunked that very few people still believe the quacks that promoted it.

(03-23-2024, 11:56 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-23-2024, 05:33 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Repeatedly found to have no effect on Covid, whether used early, late, or on mild or severe symptoms. Certainly some folks will never accept that, but it is what it is at this point.

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Sure thing bro. Ivermectin did not do anything for his relative simply because it could not. No amount of faith can alter reality.

Man, you are really dug in. Why did the remove the posts?  Did you learn anything during this at all?

I did, I had no idea so many internet doctors really thought they knew more than the near entirety of the medical profession. But man, was I ignorant of that ignorance.

(03-24-2024, 12:15 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-23-2024, 11:56 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Man, you are really dug in. Why did the remove the posts?  Did you learn anything during this at all?

I did, I had no idea so many internet doctors really thought they knew more than the near entirety of the medical profession. But man, was I ignorant of that ignorance.

Soooo, why did they remove the posts? Were the "internet doctors" right?

(03-24-2024, 09:57 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-24-2024, 12:15 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I did, I had no idea so many internet doctors really thought they knew more than the near entirety of the medical profession. But man, was I ignorant of that ignorance.

Soooo, why did they remove the posts? Were the "internet doctors" right?

No, they weren't and still aren't no matter how much they repeat their old, tired, and proven wrong talking points. Go read about the lawsuit and you'll see why it was done, or just keep clinging to your perception that this nothing means something, like the belief in Ivermectin affecting Covid.

(03-22-2024, 10:27 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]What was determined about Ivermectin? That it is an effective treatment? Or that it shouldn't be regarded as a drug for horses?

(03-23-2024, 06:56 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I'm asking why they removed the posts

They were sued, they couldn't get the case dismissed. They knew they would lose because of all the documented evidence. Instead of dragging it on longer and exposing it on the record, they settled and part of the settlement was they had to remove the post about ivermectin being for horses.

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(03-24-2024, 02:39 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-22-2024, 10:27 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]What was determined about Ivermectin? That it is an effective treatment? Or that it shouldn't be regarded as a drug for horses?

(03-23-2024, 06:56 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I'm asking why they removed the posts

They were sued, they couldn't get the case dismissed. They knew they would lose because of all the documented evidence. Instead of dragging it on longer and exposing it on the record, they settled and part of the settlement was they had to remove the post about ivermectin being for horses.

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Which...it is, lol.

Thought about putting this in the meme thread.. But it kinda fits here lol

(03-24-2024, 10:12 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-24-2024, 09:57 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Soooo, why did they remove the posts? Were the "internet doctors" right?

No, they weren't and still aren't no matter how much they repeat their old, tired, and proven wrong talking points. Go read about the lawsuit and you'll see why it was done, or just keep clinging to your perception that this nothing means something, like the belief in Ivermectin affecting Covid.

But it did, lol. You think any reasonable person trusts the BS you or your industry spew anymore? You are a part of the problem. I don't know how you sleep soundly at night after your part in this.

(03-24-2024, 08:24 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-24-2024, 10:12 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]No, they weren't and still aren't no matter how much they repeat their old, tired, and proven wrong talking points. Go read about the lawsuit and you'll see why it was done, or just keep clinging to your perception that this nothing means something, like the belief in Ivermectin affecting Covid.

But it did, lol. You think any reasonable person trusts the BS you or your industry spew anymore? You are a part of the problem. I don't know how you sleep soundly at night after your part in this.

You have no proof it did, we have dozens of studies that show it doesn't. I sleep fine because I'm still right, you have nothing but fantasy stories, anecdotes, and faith. That's your problem not mine.

(03-24-2024, 08:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-24-2024, 08:24 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]But it did, lol. You think any reasonable person trusts the BS you or your industry spew anymore? You are a part of the problem. I don't know how you sleep soundly at night after your part in this.

You have no proof it did, we have dozens of studies that show it doesn't. I sleep fine because I'm still right, you have nothing but fantasy stories, anecdotes, and faith. That's your problem not mine.

Nobody believes your "studies" lol

I do like how you have adopted "we" and at least identified yourself as the enemy. You haven't yet backed down from your awful decisions of forcing the vax on your employees. What do they have on you?

(03-24-2024, 09:04 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-24-2024, 08:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]You have no proof it did, we have dozens of studies that show it doesn't. I sleep fine because I'm still right, you have nothing but fantasy stories, anecdotes, and faith. That's your problem not mine.

Nobody believes your "studies" lol

I do like how you have adopted "we" and at least identified yourself as the enemy. You haven't yet backed down from your awful decisions of forcing the vax on your employees.  What do they have on you?

I've been on the side who accepted that Ivermectin doesn't do anything about Covid since the first group of studies proved it. If you care to go back to that thread you will find that, in the first several days it was discussed, I was hopeful that it would in fact be a useful treatment. That you actually think I'm your enemy shows just how far off your position actually is.

The first set of studies against Ivermectin were weak and poorly executed, but sometimes a placebo is huge, and I suspect that is why the early studies were all over the place. Eventually, I came to accept it probably didn't do anything, but it took WAY too long for the government to produce something that was executed properly, that included placebo effect.

It doesn't help that it was banned, mocked as an unsafe drug for horses, all while pharmaceutical companies started trying to make a new, patented version of it. You know, despite it being more harmless than asprin. Your early adoption that Ivermectin was an inadequate treatment is about the only thing you got correct early, and, even then, it probably did help people as a placebo. I will admit this is one of the few things I was wrong about, as I suspected it was having a marginal impact on the virus in the early stages.

(03-24-2024, 11:52 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]The first set of studies against Ivermectin were weak and poorly executed, but sometimes a placebo is huge, and I suspect that is why the early studies were all over the place. Eventually, I came to accept it probably didn't do anything, but it took WAY too long for the government to produce something that was executed properly, that included placebo effect.

It doesn't help that it was banned, mocked as an unsafe drug for horses, all while pharmaceutical companies started trying to make a new, patented version of it. You know, despite it being more harmless than asprin. Your early adoption that Ivermectin was an inadequate treatment is about the only thing you got correct early, and, even then, it probably did help people as a placebo. I will admit this is one of the few things I was wrong about, as I suspected it was having a marginal impact on the virus in the early stages.

Damned with faint praise, lol.

(03-24-2024, 11:52 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]The first set of studies against Ivermectin were weak and poorly executed, but sometimes a placebo is huge, and I suspect that is why the early studies were all over the place. Eventually, I came to accept it probably didn't do anything, but it took WAY too long for the government to produce something that was executed properly, that included placebo effect.

It doesn't help that it was banned, mocked as an unsafe drug for horses, all while pharmaceutical companies started trying to make a new, patented version of it. You know, despite it being more harmless than asprin. Your early adoption that Ivermectin was an inadequate treatment is about the only thing you got correct early, and, even then, it probably did help people as a placebo. I will admit this is one of the few things I was wrong about, as I suspected it was having a marginal impact on the virus in the early stages.

Such a long winded answer.

“I was wrong”. Much quicker and to the point.

You’re welcome!

Everyone is different.

Studies are great and give us an average. But if we were all average there wouldn't be athletes.

(03-25-2024, 09:49 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-24-2024, 11:52 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]The first set of studies against Ivermectin were weak and poorly executed, but sometimes a placebo is huge, and I suspect that is why the early studies were all over the place. Eventually, I came to accept it probably didn't do anything, but it took WAY too long for the government to produce something that was executed properly, that included placebo effect.

It doesn't help that it was banned, mocked as an unsafe drug for horses, all while pharmaceutical companies started trying to make a new, patented version of it. You know, despite it being more harmless than asprin. Your early adoption that Ivermectin was an inadequate treatment is about the only thing you got correct early, and, even then, it probably did help people as a placebo.

I will admit this is one of the few things I was wrong about, as I suspected it was having a marginal impact on the virus in the early stages.

Such a long winded answer.

“I was wrong”. Much quicker and to the point.

You’re welcome!

I have a long track recorded of conceding when it's warranted. My concession was short and to the point.  

The first two paragraphs are why people have a problem with the way the CDC handled this issue, which is relevant to the discussion we are having. You might want to spend more time contextualizing than gloating about something you didn't even research. 

You're welcome!

Also as a reminder, the FDA was absolutely correct to advise people to refrain from using Equine Ivermectin paste. The dosages are different for humans and horses, and the paste they were buying is not appropriate for any of the human reasons to take it, much less the disproven Covid one. Ya'll really aren't horses, so don't get your meds at the feed store.

Sure. Strawman, but sure.