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For offense, 3 WRs and 1 TE

For the defense, let’s just say it’s base 4-3

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PR
K
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I will name them Petey, George, Goofball, Other George, George's daddy, Fred, Jimbob, Ferd Berfer, Nonni, Jeep, Random name #346, Big Guy, Yet Another George, Ziffo, Mister Sir, Sheila, Choo-Choo, Dingle, Shep, Coach's Pet, Ezra, and Dammit.

That was a challenge, not gonna lie.

QB - Trevor Lawrence
RB - Travis Etienne
TE - Evan Engram
WR - Christian Kirk
WR - Brian Thomas
WR - Gabe Davis
LT - Cam Robinson
LG - Cooper Hodges
C - Mitch Morse
RG - Brandon Scherff
RT - Anton Harris

DL Josh Hines-Allen
DL Travon Walker
DL Arik Armstead
DL Davon Hamilton
LB Devin Lloyd
LB Foyesade Oluokun
SS Antonio Johnson
FS Andre Cisco
CB Tyson Campbell
CB Montriac Brown
NB Jerrian Jones

PR Parker Washington
KR Devin Duvernay
K Cam Little
LS Ross Matistick

(07-24-2024, 12:52 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]QB - Trevor Lawrence 
RB - Travis Etienne
TE - Evan Engram
WR - Christian Kirk
WR - Brian Thomas
WR - Gabe Davis
LT - Cam Robinson
LG - Cooper Hodges
C - Mitch Morse
RG - Brandon Scherff
RT - Anton Harris

DL Josh Hines-Allen
DL Travon Walker
DL Arik Armstead
DL Davon Hamilton
LB Devin Lloyd
LB Foyesade Oluokun
SS Antonio Johnson
FS Andre Cisco
CB Tyson Campbell
CB Montriac Brown
NB Jerrian Jones

PR Parker Washington
KR Devin Duvernay
K Cam Little
LS Ross Matistick

You count funny, that's 26. Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200

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(07-24-2024, 12:52 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]LG - Cooper Hodges

 
Doubling down I see

What I think we see on the field the most:

Lawrence

Cam R
E Cleveland
Morse
Scherff
A Harrison

Engram

Etienne

BTJ
Kirk
Davis

Defense (a little guesswork in secondary, but, whatever)

Walker
RRH (Armstead when healthy here)
Hamilton
JHA

Foye
Lloyd

J Jones (.05)

Campbell
Darby

Johnson or Savage at SS
Cisco FS

I'm not bothering to list three LBs
We won't be in that formation often

(07-24-2024, 01:29 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]What I think we see on the field the most:

Lawrence

Cam R
E Cleveland
Morse
Scherff
A Harrison

Engram

Etienne

BTJ
Kirk
Davis

Defense (a little guesswork in secondary, but, whatever)

Walker
RRH (Armstead when healthy here)
Hamilton
JHA

Foye
Lloyd

J Jones (.05)

Campbell
Darby

Johnson or Savage at SS
Cisco FS

I'm not bothering to list three LBs
We won't be in that formation often

I didn’t bother with the 3rd LB either. Your oline line up is probably what week 1 looks like.

(07-24-2024, 01:10 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-24-2024, 12:52 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]QB - Trevor Lawrence 
RB - Travis Etienne
TE - Evan Engram
WR - Christian Kirk
WR - Brian Thomas
WR - Gabe Davis
LT - Cam Robinson
LG - Cooper Hodges
C - Mitch Morse
RG - Brandon Scherff
RT - Anton Harris

DL Josh Hines-Allen
DL Travon Walker
DL Arik Armstead
DL Davon Hamilton
LB Devin Lloyd
LB Foyesade Oluokun
SS Antonio Johnson
FS Andre Cisco
CB Tyson Campbell
CB Montriac Brown
NB Jerrian Jones

PR Parker Washington
KR Devin Duvernay
K Cam Little
LS Ross Matistick

You count funny, that's 26. Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200

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(07-24-2024, 12:52 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]LG - Cooper Hodges

 
Doubling down I see

Meh, if I’m changing the spark plugs, I go ahead and hit the plug wires while I’m at it.

QB: Lawrence
RB: Etienne
WR: Kirk
WR: Davis
WR: Thomas Jr.
TE: Engram
LT: Robinson
LG: Cleveland
C: Morse
RG: Scherff
RT: Harrison

LE: Walker
DT: Armstead
DT: Hamilton
RE: Allen
ILB: Oluokon
OLB: Lloyd
OLB: Abdullah
CB: Campbell
CB: Darby
S: Savage
S: Cisco

KR: Duvernay & Robinson
PR: Duvernay & Washington
P: Cooke
K: Little

(07-24-2024, 01:29 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]What I think we see on the field the most:

Lawrence

Cam R
E Cleveland
Morse
Scherff
A Harrison

Engram

Etienne

BTJ
Kirk
Davis

Defense (a little guesswork in secondary, but, whatever)

Walker
RRH (Armstead when healthy here)
Hamilton
JHA

Foye
Lloyd

J Jones (.05)

Campbell
Darby

Johnson or Savage at SS
Cisco FS

I'm not bothering to list three LBs
We won't be in that formation often

I agree with all of this. The only undecided spots are the 2nd safety and nickel. Hopefully Armstead will be able to play early in the season.

(07-26-2024, 05:07 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]QB: Lawrence
RB: Etienne
WR: Kirk
WR: Davis
WR: Thomas Jr.
TE: Engram
LT: Robinson
LG: Cleveland
C: Morse
RG: Scherff
RT: Harrison

LE: Walker
DT: Armstead
DT: Hamilton
RE: Allen
ILB: Oluokon
OLB: Lloyd
OLB: Abdullah
CB: Campbell
CB: Darby
S: Savage
S: Cisco

KR: Duvernay & Robinson
PR: Duvernay & Washington
P: Cooke
K: Little

Hmm, I thought that Jags were still 3-4 base. Is Nielson changing to a 4-3? (Nickel is still the most often used defense of course.)

I'm going to guess that with the new rules, kick returns might be more like punt returns and you might see the same guy doing both more often than not.
There's also the option for two kick returners on the field at once, and teams might try that and find out it's an advantage.  So it might become standard for there to be two kick returns positions.

(07-27-2024, 10:51 AM)cland Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-26-2024, 05:07 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]QB: Lawrence
RB: Etienne
WR: Kirk
WR: Davis
WR: Thomas Jr.
TE: Engram
LT: Robinson
LG: Cleveland
C: Morse
RG: Scherff
RT: Harrison

LE: Walker
DT: Armstead
DT: Hamilton
RE: Allen
ILB: Oluokon
OLB: Lloyd
OLB: Abdullah
CB: Campbell
CB: Darby
S: Savage
S: Cisco

KR: Duvernay & Robinson
PR: Duvernay & Washington
P: Cooke
K: Little

Hmm, I thought that Jags were still 3-4 base. Is Nielson changing to a 4-3? (Nickel is still the most often used defense of course.)

Nielsen ran nickel 4-2-5 90% of the time in Atlanta but did occasionally employ a 4-3

The speculation is that he will do the same here. Players will be listed as if they are 4-3 base. (Josh Allen will be a DE - not a OLB for instance) 
They just won't often have 3 linebackers out there.

The media is telling us to worry about Brian Thomas? Is this just bs or has he looked ok?

If that’s the case maybe we find another Z

First I left Armstead off until he comes off the PUP list. Naturally, he will replace Hamilton or Smith when he returns. I show a position 3S (3rd safety) I figure we will play a lot of that. Johnson or Savage covering the slot. When we play straight up Jarrian Jones will come in.

LT - Cam Robinson
LG - Ezra Cleveland
C - Mitch Morse*
RG - Brandon Sheriff
RT - Anton Harrison
TE - Evan Engram
QB - Trevor Lawrence
RB - Travis Etienne Jr.
WR - Christian Kirk
WR - Brian Thomas Jr.,
WR - Gabe Davis*

DL - Travon Walker
DL -DaVon Hamilton
DL - Maason Smith
DL - Josh Allen
LB - Foyesade Oluokun
LB - Devin Lloyd
CB - Tyson Campbell
CB - Ronald Darby
3S - Darnell Savage
FS - Andre Cisco
SS - Antonio Johnson

(07-26-2024, 05:07 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]QB: Lawrence
RB: Etienne
WR: Kirk
WR: Davis
WR: Thomas Jr.
TE: Engram
LT: Robinson
LG: Cleveland
C: Morse
RG: Scherff
RT: Harrison

LE: Walker
DT: Armstead
DT: Hamilton
RE: Allen
ILB: Oluokon
OLB: Lloyd
OLB: Abdullah
CB: Campbell
CB: Darby
S: Savage
S: Cisco

KR: Duvernay & Robinson
PR: Duvernay & Washington
P: Cooke
K: Little

Damn I like that starting lineup. Suddenly we have a roster with quite a lot of experience on it.

(07-27-2024, 03:58 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-27-2024, 10:51 AM)cland Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm, I thought that Jags were still 3-4 base. Is Nielson changing to a 4-3? (Nickel is still the most often used defense of course.)

Nielsen ran nickel 4-2-5 90% of the time in Atlanta but did occasionally employ a 4-3

The speculation is that he will do the same here. Players will be listed as if they are 4-3 base. (Josh Allen will be a DE - not a OLB for instance) 
They just won't often have 3 linebackers out there.

This, and, I also wanted to honor Fanatic's request.

(07-28-2024, 12:39 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-26-2024, 05:07 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]QB: Lawrence
RB: Etienne
WR: Kirk
WR: Davis
WR: Thomas Jr.
TE: Engram
LT: Robinson
LG: Cleveland
C: Morse
RG: Scherff
RT: Harrison

LE: Walker
DT: Armstead
DT: Hamilton
RE: Allen
ILB: Oluokon
OLB: Lloyd
OLB: Abdullah
CB: Campbell
CB: Darby
S: Savage
S: Cisco

KR: Duvernay & Robinson
PR: Duvernay & Washington
P: Cooke
K: Little

Damn I like that starting lineup. Suddenly we have a roster with quite a lot of experience on it.

Agreed. Hopefully it all comes together this season. There's still some question marks out there that need to be answered. 

1. Can the offensive line finally gel and get it together in one summer to complete the offense and balance it?
2. Can the interior of the defensive line finally get penetration and maintain the point of attack?
3. Can the kicker, whether it be a rookie or veteran, be trusted to make the kicks in crunch time?
4. Can Pederson show a little more restraint and a little less gambling when the probability of three points is there?
5. Can Lawrence scale down his turnovers while elevating his touchdowns?

The other thing is the depth. Again, we're entering another season where the team will be relying heavily on inexperienced players. Bigsby and Strange have to be able to spell Etienne and Engram when needed. The expectations on Brian Thomas Jr? 

Smith and Jefferson are going to have to fill in immediately when needed and not blow their gap's, get over zealous and jump the line early, etc. The secondary will be relying on guys like Antonio Johnson from last year along with newcomer's in Jarrian Jones & Deantre Prince. 

Special teams could very well likely be leaning on Little as a rookie Kicker and Robinson as a Return Specialist with the new rules to make some crunch time plays. 

In a game where the margin of error is small most of the time on a weekly basis? Any one of these rookie or second year players above could make or break this team's chances in the W/L column. One bad kick, one fumble, one blown assignment. That's all it takes. It'll be a fun season either way. 

I expect double digit wins in 2024. Whether they make the play-off's or not will be decided on how the rest of the AFC plays and whether or not this team was able to overcome it's injuries from the previous year and whether or not their depth pieces did the job when called upon.

(07-27-2024, 06:16 PM)MojoKing Wrote: [ -> ]The media is telling us to worry about Brian Thomas? Is this just bs or has he looked ok?

If that’s the case maybe we find another Z

Crimeny, he's a rookie in his first camp. Quit listening to these panic factories.

(07-28-2024, 06:36 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-28-2024, 12:39 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Damn I like that starting lineup. Suddenly we have a roster with quite a lot of experience on it.

Agreed. Hopefully it all comes together this season. There's still some question marks out there that need to be answered. 

1. Can the offensive line finally gel and get it together in one summer to complete the offense and balance it?
2. Can the interior of the defensive line finally get penetration and maintain the point of attack?
3. Can the kicker, whether it be a rookie or veteran, be trusted to make the kicks in crunch time?
4. Can Pederson show a little more restraint and a little less gambling when the probability of three points is there?
5. Can Lawrence scale down his turnovers while elevating his touchdowns?

The other thing is the depth. Again, we're entering another season where the team will be relying heavily on inexperienced players. Bigsby and Strange have to be able to spell Etienne and Engram when needed. The expectations on Brian Thomas Jr? 

Smith and Jefferson are going to have to fill in immediately when needed and not blow their gap's, get over zealous and jump the line early, etc. The secondary will be relying on guys like Antonio Johnson from last year along with newcomer's in Jarrian Jones & Deantre Prince. 

Special teams could very well likely be leaning on Little as a rookie Kicker and Robinson as a Return Specialist with the new rules to make some crunch time plays. 

In a game where the margin of error is small most of the time on a weekly basis? Any one of these rookie or second year players above could make or break this team's chances in the W/L column. One bad kick, one fumble, one blown assignment. That's all it takes. It'll be a fun season either way. 

I expect double digit wins in 2024. Whether they make the play-off's or not will be decided on how the rest of the AFC plays and whether or not this team was able to overcome it's injuries from the previous year and whether or not their depth pieces did the job when called upon.

I think you nail all the concerns fans have for the season ahead. I know last season ended in a disappointing fashion but there was also plenty of good stuff we did too.

1- That feels the biggest thing that can determine how good/bad this season can go. The line has definitely been improved and plays like Harrison have a year of experience. Morse brings in a lot of experience and playoff experience and there is talent on that oline, its high draft picks and big ticket FA'S so they have the ability. It may take a few games to get it all together but I think this is an area Doug knows needs to be better.

2- Yep, that really hurt us down the stretch. I'm looking forward to see if Walker takes another step this year and Armstead is nice experience to add for the younger guys. Hamilton was such a miss last year and didn't look right when he came back. I'm not sure what exact scheme we'll line up with on D but I think it will depend on the DB's giving the line tike to get home and the Dline getting home to help the coverage. Unless it all works together, none of it will work.

3- Ah kickers, the lowest guys on the roster but so many times the deciding factor. It will be an interesting camp battle to see who we keep and is the starter. It kind of leads into point 4 as if Doug has faith then I see him settling for 3's (but staying aggressive in certain situations) but if he doesn't have faith in the K....yeah that usually hurts you.

5- That's his big priority. Having the Oline keep a cleaner pocket and giving him time will certainly help, WR's not tipping balls up will help but he needs to try and limit it. If he can do that but still keep being aggressive then he'll have an MVP level year.

Every team at some point needs to rely on the 3's and 4's on your depth chart and rookies. You don't need them to be superstars but just 'do their job'. For players like Bigsby and Strange, they'll have their chances, it's up to them to take them and earn more. For me, it's up to the coaches to find what they excel at, give them those opportunities in games and if they do well then give them more. How the coaching staff respond to injuries and players/schemes not working will be a huge factor.

I'm very confident for us this year. We had a brutal schedule last year and were 8-3 with L's to the Chiefs and Niners (both went to SB) and a Houston team who had a great year. We beat good teams and we have another tough schedule this year but that's what we need. If we want to get to deep playoff runs and winning SB's your going to have to beat the best so embrace the challenge. I think everyone in the building from Shad down knows we are going the right way and need to respond to the end of last season and that's why I think they went for experience in FA to be a difference in the locker room if we have a bad couple of games and turn it around.

(07-28-2024, 06:36 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-28-2024, 12:39 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Damn I like that starting lineup. Suddenly we have a roster with quite a lot of experience on it.

Agreed. Hopefully it all comes together this season. There's still some question marks out there that need to be answered. 

1. Can the offensive line finally gel and get it together in one summer to complete the offense and balance it?
2. Can the interior of the defensive line finally get penetration and maintain the point of attack?
3. Can the kicker, whether it be a rookie or veteran, be trusted to make the kicks in crunch time?
4. Can Pederson show a little more restraint and a little less gambling when the probability of three points is there?
5. Can Lawrence scale down his turnovers while elevating his touchdowns?

The other thing is the depth. Again, we're entering another season where the team will be relying heavily on inexperienced players. Bigsby and Strange have to be able to spell Etienne and Engram when needed. The expectations on Brian Thomas Jr? 

Smith and Jefferson are going to have to fill in immediately when needed and not blow their gap's, get over zealous and jump the line early, etc. The secondary will be relying on guys like Antonio Johnson from last year along with newcomer's in Jarrian Jones & Deantre Prince. 

Special teams could very well likely be leaning on Little as a rookie Kicker and Robinson as a Return Specialist with the new rules to make some crunch time plays. 

In a game where the margin of error is small most of the time on a weekly basis? Any one of these rookie or second year players above could make or break this team's chances in the W/L column. One bad kick, one fumble, one blown assignment. That's all it takes. It'll be a fun season either way. 

I expect double digit wins in 2024. Whether they make the play-off's or not will be decided on how the rest of the AFC plays and whether or not this team was able to overcome it's injuries from the previous year and whether or not their depth pieces did the job when called upon.

Your 2nd point about the defensive line is a great point. Armstead and a healthy Ham can make this defense pretty stout