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Quote:Where did this smart thing come from? He's made dumb decisions regularly since day 1. Much like Ryan Fitzpatrick, smart guy not smart footballer.


He needs to play better or will be a journeyman in a few years.

Pretty hard to take you serious.

Luck was supposed to break all of Peytons records.

Quote:Luck was supposed to break all of Peytons records.

 

He's certainly met and exceeded expectations.

 

Quote:Luck was supposed to break all of Peytons records.

 

 

Quote:He's certainly met and exceeded expectations.

 

 

Luck was supposed to break all of Manning's records? Manning, who played 16 years in the league? Luck was supposed to do all of that in only 5 years?

 

The hate for Luck is astounding here.

 

BTW: At this point in his career, Luck has thrown for more TDs, yards, and fewer INTs, so he's on track. But even then, the standard come back is " you can't compare stats from Manning's era to QBs of this era. It was a totally different game."

 

Quote:Luck was supposed to break all of Manning's records? Manning, who played 16 years in the league? Luck was supposed to do all of that in only 5 years?

 

The hate for Luck is astounding here.

 

BTW: At this point in his career, Luck has thrown for more TDs, yards, and fewer INTs, so he's on track. But even then, the standard come back is " you can't compare stats from Manning's era to QBs of this era. It was a totally different game."

 

 

No point in trying Flash. I tried to have a football related conversation with pirkster and he collapsed like a cheap tent. Poor guy.

Meaning, you were soundly defeated and couldn't muster a substantive rebuttal.

I expected Peyton Manning but all I got was a lousy participation banner...

 

Thanks for proving my point.

Quote:Thanks for proving my point.

 

Typical clots response, "winning" by losing.  Keep flying that banner.

Quote:Luck was supposed to break all of Manning's records? Manning, who played 16 years in the league? Luck was supposed to do all of that in only 5 years?

 

The hate for Luck is astounding here.

 

BTW: At this point in his career, Luck has thrown for more TDs, yards, and fewer INTs, so he's on track. But even then, the standard come back is " you can't compare stats from Manning's era to QBs of this era. It was a totally different game."

 

 

As to the emphasized portion, I would not argue so much different eras, though there is an argument to be made for that.  But I do contend that the first 4-5 years of Manning's career were in a tougher overall division (the then AFC East) than Luck has faced during the similar point in his career.

 

I think nobody can seriously deny that Luck is a fine QB and among the league's best.  But having seen both in person first hand and being on the wrong end of way too many Colts QB performances, I maintain Manning is flat out a superior QB to Luck.

To add to that...

 

At the same point in his career, I'm pretty certain Manning would rank higher than Marcus Mariota on the NFL players' Top 100 list.

 

Luck does not.

Andrew Luck's Shoulder sounds like a great band name.

Quote:Andrew Luck's Shoulder sounds like a great band name.

 

Spock's Beard

 

Andrew Luck's Shoulder

 

I like it.

Quote:Typical clots response, "winning" by losing.  Keep flying that banner.

 

You have still contributed nothing to this thread, but banter.

 

And when I tried to engage in football talk with you, you mysteriously disappeared.

 

Strange.

Quote:You have still contributed nothing to this thread, but banter.

 

And when I tried to engage in football talk with you, you mysteriously disappeared.

 

Strange.

 

You seem to be looking in the mirror when you type this.  That's impressive.

 

Marcus Mariota ranked higher by his peers.

 

Something Manning would never have happened to him.

Quote:You seem to be looking in the mirror when you type this.  That's impressive.

 

Marcus Mariota ranked higher by his peers.

 

Something Manning would never have happened to him.

 

You don't have to go back far... actually just one page.

 

Also, I find it hilarious that you stated PFF was opinion based (it's actually the opposite of that) and then you bring up NFL's top 100

 

You make this way too easy.

Quote:You don't have to go back far... actually just one page.

 

Also, I find it hilarious that you stated PFF was opinion based (it's actually the opposite of that) and then you bring up NFL's top 100

 

You make this way too easy.

 

Thanks for making my point about PFF.

 

These are the players who are asked.

 

Not trolls behind keyboards with cat avatars.

Quote:Thanks for making my point about PFF.

 

These are the players who are asked.

 

Not trolls behind keyboards with cat avatars.

 

And what point did I prove?

 

(I don't write for PFF )

 

It's a little early to be drinking on a Friday, my friend.