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We have a fragmented front office and coaching staff spearheaded by a clueless owner.

It's as simple as that. Success starts from the inside out. Until Khan gets a clue, hires the adequate talent evaluator, talent procurer and talent developer for this franchise?

They'll continue to fail.

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If you get right down to it, the team has been bad since Khan bought it. A string of bad GM's including Baalke, bad coaching staffs, etc. Until Khan gets the GM right this team will continue to flounder.
This came up a bunch in last night's game. The commentary gravitated to the risk-taker that Sirianni is, the tush push formations, the take a chance on third down because we know we are gonna go for it on fourth if it don't work kind of mindset.

Fans booed all they wanted at the failed conversion attempts, but he stuck to his mindset, the team doesn't have to guess what the strategy is, and they move. The wrinkles of pass plays out of the push formation will add challenges to DCs down the schedule, and those minor tweaks will bring a whole lot more success than radical rewrites. The team knows their coach. He doesn't flip-flop. He took a point off the board to take the smart chance at doubling the conversion attempt's return. He opted against a field goal when the team had basically held us to complete and utter inactivity. Having a coach who doesn't waver makes it so much easier not only to buy into the plan, but also to know exactly what the plan is and where you fit. No guessing. Can we say that about our squad?
(11-04-2024, 09:08 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]This came up a bunch in last night's game. The commentary gravitated to the risk-taker that Sirianni is, the tush push formations, the take a chance on third down because we know we are gonna go for it on fourth if it don't work kind of mindset.

Fans booed all they wanted at the failed conversion attempts, but he stuck to his mindset, the team doesn't have to guess what the strategy is, and they move. The wrinkles of pass plays out of the push formation will add challenges to DCs down the schedule, and those minor tweaks will bring a whole lot more success than radical rewrites. The team knows their coach. He doesn't flip-flop. He took a point off the board to take the smart chance at doubling the conversion attempt's return. He opted against a field goal when the team had basically held us to complete and utter inactivity. Having a coach who doesn't waver makes it so much easier not only to buy into the plan, but also to know exactly what the plan is and where you fit. No guessing. Can we say that about our squad?

Nope. This team does not know one's [BLEEP] from one's elbow at this point.
(11-02-2024, 06:47 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]We have a fragmented front office and coaching staff spearheaded by a clueless owner.

It's as simple as that. Success starts from the inside out. Until Khan gets a clue, hires the adequate talent evaluator, talent procurer and talent developer for this franchise?

They'll continue to fail.

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I used to think this way.

Now I don't.  Now I have hope that Shad was just trying to figure out how to be the best type of owner.  I don't think Shad Khan is clueless.  I think he was just trying to learn the "Industry".  It's huge learning curve coming from what his business was into the NFL business.  His patience looks like a flaw, but his patience also kept this franchise here for the next couple decades.  Now, all he as to do is make the right call for the future.  

I'm hopeful.  And I'm the guy that used to crap all over Shad last year.  I think all this failure is useful for a man like him.  Failure creates wisdom in people that have resolve.  Failure can also create a death spiral in weak minded people.  But I'd rather be hopeful that Khan is wise and not weak minded.
(11-04-2024, 09:08 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]This came up a bunch in last night's game. The commentary gravitated to the risk-taker that Sirianni is, the tush push formations, the take a chance on third down because we know we are gonna go for it on fourth if it don't work kind of mindset.

Fans booed all they wanted at the failed conversion attempts, but he stuck to his mindset, the team doesn't have to guess what the strategy is, and they move. The wrinkles of pass plays out of the push formation will add challenges to DCs down the schedule, and those minor tweaks will bring a whole lot more success than radical rewrites. The team knows their coach. He doesn't flip-flop. He took a point off the board to take the smart chance at doubling the conversion attempt's return. He opted against a field goal when the team had basically held us to complete and utter inactivity. Having a coach who doesn't waver makes it so much easier not only to buy into the plan, but also to know exactly what the plan is and where you fit. No guessing. Can we say that about our squad?

Sirianni was just trying to get closer to the Vegas point spread. Why else would you forego going up 9 and making it a 2 possession game?
(11-05-2024, 01:07 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-04-2024, 09:08 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]This came up a bunch in last night's game. The commentary gravitated to the risk-taker that Sirianni is, the tush push formations, the take a chance on third down because we know we are gonna go for it on fourth if it don't work kind of mindset.

Fans booed all they wanted at the failed conversion attempts, but he stuck to his mindset, the team doesn't have to guess what the strategy is, and they move. The wrinkles of pass plays out of the push formation will add challenges to DCs down the schedule, and those minor tweaks will bring a whole lot more success than radical rewrites. The team knows their coach. He doesn't flip-flop. He took a point off the board to take the smart chance at doubling the conversion attempt's return. He opted against a field goal when the team had basically held us to complete and utter inactivity. Having a coach who doesn't waver makes it so much easier not only to buy into the plan, but also to know exactly what the plan is and where you fit. No guessing. Can we say that about our squad?

Sirianni was just trying to get closer to the Vegas point spread. Why else would you forego going up 9 and making it a 2 possession game?

Because he did not believe the game was ever at risk because of the decision.
(11-01-2024, 04:49 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]Khan.

GMs-
1. Caldwell
1b- Coughlin
2. Baalke

HCs-
1. Mularkey
2. Gus Bradley
3. Doug Marrone
4. Urban
5. Pederson

All hires under Khan. Can’t look at this short sided, it’s been over a decade long of horrific hires.

Outside of football he’s been an outstanding owner. He’s also not going anywhere so just need to pray the ball lands on our roulette # during the hiring process.

Also, before the “GM makes the HC hires”. Go look at the urban and Doug press conferences when hired. Khan takes direct “credit” with his “I got it right this time” lines. It’s his call on the HC, bottom line. Always has been.


IIRC, Khan inherited Mularkey.  Sticking with Bradley for too long was a huge mistake, though.
(11-05-2024, 01:43 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-05-2024, 01:07 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Sirianni was just trying to get closer to the Vegas point spread. Why else would you forego going up 9 and making it a 2 possession game?

Because he did not believe the game was ever at risk because of the decision.

AYUH.

Complete and total disregard for our ability not only to stop them, but to compete with them.
as long as the clown Khan is the owner we will be Loserville,and laughing stock of the nfl. we need a rich person with football knowedelge to buy the jags from Khan.   Otherwise  Loserville will be fore ever,and we will never never never never ever see a change.
(11-05-2024, 01:43 PM)KodiakJag Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-01-2024, 04:49 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]Khan.

GMs-
1. Caldwell
1b- Coughlin
2. Baalke

HCs-
1. Mularkey
2. Gus Bradley
3. Doug Marrone
4. Urban
5. Pederson

All hires under Khan. Can’t look at this short sided, it’s been over a decade long of horrific hires.

Outside of football he’s been an outstanding owner. He’s also not going anywhere so just need to pray the ball lands on our roulette # during the hiring process.

Also, before the “GM makes the HC hires”. Go look at the urban and Doug press conferences when hired. Khan takes direct “credit” with his “I got it right this time” lines. It’s his call on the HC, bottom line. Always has been.


IIRC, Khan inherited Mularkey.  Sticking with Bradley for too long was a huge mistake, though.
 
Mularkey was hired a week after Khan bought the team.
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