(01-16-2025, 08:54 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2025, 08:47 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt Hill would do well at Guard, anyhoo. Better off looking elsewhere.
Leverage wins! The low man wins! I can see Hill pushing Hamilton uphill during practices this summer. We'll have Ben Johnson scheming up something wild.
Hill at guard, deliberately takes a fall and gets "taken out of the play" by his defender. Lawrence has a designed roll out to the right or left, Hill gets back up and it's a sneaky screen play design. Championship!
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Other than the fact that Guards can't report as eligible it's a masterful plan!
(01-16-2025, 11:52 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2025, 08:54 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Leverage wins! The low man wins! I can see Hill pushing Hamilton uphill during practices this summer. We'll have Ben Johnson scheming up something wild.
Hill at guard, deliberately takes a fall and gets "taken out of the play" by his defender. Lawrence has a designed roll out to the right or left, Hill gets back up and it's a sneaky screen play design. Championship!
Other than the fact that Guards can't report as eligible it's a masterful plan!
Since Guards are not receiver eligible, we'd have to use Hill on the Fumblerooski play that Nebraska used in the 1984 Orange Bowl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIRgXCB_sQE
(01-16-2025, 11:56 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2025, 11:52 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Other than the fact that Guards can't report as eligible it's a masterful plan!
Since Guards are not receiver eligible, we'd have to use Hill on the Fumblerooski play that Nebraska used in the 1984 Orange Bowl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIRgXCB_sQE
The NFL made an "intentional forward fumble" into an incomplete pass in the early '90s, so we could do it but the ball has to go backward when dropped. They also have the Recovering Player rule that says only the fumbler can recover and advance the ball in certain situations. It's still possible in the NFL but the conditions make it difficult to accomplish effectively.
(01-16-2025, 12:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2025, 11:56 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Since Guards are not receiver eligible, we'd have to use Hill on the Fumblerooski play that Nebraska used in the 1984 Orange Bowl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIRgXCB_sQE
The NFL made an "intentional forward fumble" into an incomplete pass in the early '90s, so we could do it but the ball has to go backward when dropped. They also have the Recovering Player rule that says only the fumbler can recover and advance the ball in certain situations. It's still possible in the NFL but the conditions make it difficult to accomplish effectively.
So it comes down to the OC?
(01-16-2025, 12:22 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2025, 12:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]The NFL made an "intentional forward fumble" into an incomplete pass in the early '90s, so we could do it but the ball has to go backward when dropped. They also have the Recovering Player rule that says only the fumbler can recover and advance the ball in certain situations. It's still possible in the NFL but the conditions make it difficult to accomplish effectively.
So it comes down to the OC?
I guess, I just think the other team will know something is up when Tyreek Hill lines up next to Mitch Morse.
(01-16-2025, 12:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2025, 11:56 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Since Guards are not receiver eligible, we'd have to use Hill on the Fumblerooski play that Nebraska used in the 1984 Orange Bowl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIRgXCB_sQE
The NFL made an "intentional forward fumble" into an incomplete pass in the early '90s, so we could do it but the ball has to go backward when dropped. They also have the Recovering Player rule that says only the fumbler can recover and advance the ball in certain situations. It's still possible in the NFL but the conditions make it difficult to accomplish effectively.
Good points on both accounts (fwd fumble and advancing a fumble). I can see why this is diminishing Tyreek's value on the open market. His role is limited to catching passes as a WR and scoring TDs.
(01-16-2025, 12:58 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2025, 12:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]The NFL made an "intentional forward fumble" into an incomplete pass in the early '90s, so we could do it but the ball has to go backward when dropped. They also have the Recovering Player rule that says only the fumbler can recover and advance the ball in certain situations. It's still possible in the NFL but the conditions make it difficult to accomplish effectively.
Good points on both accounts (fwd fumble and advancing a fumble). I can see why this is diminishing Tyreek's value on the open market. His role is limited to catching passes as a WR and scoring TDs.
Perhaps a better investment would be to sign Mike Gesicki and run a 4 TE set. Picture this:
Engram - Farrell - Morse - Gesiki - Strange
Then we really throw them a curve by running out Little and Harrison and lining them up as wingbacks
Engram - Farrell - Morse - Gesiki - Strange
Little Lawrence Harrison
Then lineup BTj and
Agnew Duvernay wide and Bigsby in the backfield
Engram - Farrell - Morse - Gesiki - Strange BTj
Duvernay Little Lawrence Harrison
Tank
I think this should be our new base set, imagine the chaos created by linemen taking the Rooksi any of 4 different directions but the jet/end around/reverse options and a screen pass to Anton? Holy cow what an offense that would be!
(01-16-2025, 01:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2025, 12:58 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Good points on both accounts (fwd fumble and advancing a fumble). I can see why this is diminishing Tyreek's value on the open market. His role is limited to catching passes as a WR and scoring TDs.
Perhaps a better investment would be to sign Mike Gesicki and run a 4 TE set. Picture this:
Engram - Farrell - Morse - Gesiki - Strange
Then we really throw them a curve by running out Little and Harrison and lining them up as wingbacks
Engram - Farrell - Morse - Gesiki - Strange
Little Lawrence Harrison
Then lineup BTj and Agnew Duvernay wide and Bigsby in the backfield
Engram - Farrell - Morse - Gesiki - Strange BTj
Duvernay Little Lawrence Harrison
Tank
I think this should be our new base set, imagine the chaos created by linemen taking the Rooksi any of 4 different directions but the jet/end around/reverse options and a screen pass to Anton? Holy cow what an offense that would be!
Even better if u do this play on a 3rd and 12 inside your own 15
(01-16-2025, 12:26 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2025, 12:22 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]So it comes down to the OC?
I guess, I just think the other team will know something is up when Tyreek Hill lines up next to Mitch Morse.
...not if reek is suddenly 290lbs and looking at the DE like he's some misbehaving child.
(01-16-2025, 12:58 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2025, 12:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]The NFL made an "intentional forward fumble" into an incomplete pass in the early '90s, so we could do it but the ball has to go backward when dropped. They also have the Recovering Player rule that says only the fumbler can recover and advance the ball in certain situations. It's still possible in the NFL but the conditions make it difficult to accomplish effectively.
Good points on both accounts (fwd fumble and advancing a fumble). I can see why this is diminishing Tyreek's value on the open market. His role is limited to catching passes as a WR and scoring TDs.
You forgot making tackles on the interception returns. We need that speed to be sure the defense gets a chance to give up the 6.
If we could somehow dump Kirk's cap and replace it with his I would.
We have to re-establish ourselves as a legitimate franchise again. We don't need to break the bank for a known name. It takes a team to win. How do we get production out of FA's we're stuck with currently? It isn't to just sign more.
Absolutely not. The guy is a total knucklehead. Give me a guy with a 40-time that is a couple tenths slower, but who has decent character, and I think we would be a lot better off. I don't want to deal with his buffoonery.