Quote:The move toward free trade began under Reagan. Remember GATT?
That was the beginning of it, and it was under Raygun. And deficits truly began taking off under that traitor.
It continued on with HW Bush and Clinton, but the conservative vision that brought us here began under that guy.
You are so misguided, it's sad.
Quote:The move toward free trade began under Reagan. Remember GATT?
That was the beginning of it, and it was under Raygun. And deficits truly began taking off under that traitor.
It continued on with HW Bush and Clinton, but the conservative vision that brought us here began under that guy.
Trade was balanced when Reagan left office. It was balanced with HW. It was balanced until Clinton implemented and enforced NAFTA (which HW did sign as well, so he deserves blame too, those darn Bushies). Deficit spending is fine if you have the economic growth to back it up. It is literally how businesses work. It worked with Reagan, HW, and Slick Willy. It stopped working with GW, and exploded under Obama.
Quote:History shows it works. I can't teach those unwilling to learn.
There hasn't been conservative economic policy since Reagan, and the congress of 1994. The largest periods of growth during our time.
What is it that's made you so misguided and unable to accept truth? Hate? Brainwashing?
Clinton progressed free trade started by Reagan. Clinton deregulated the financial industry.
Effective tax rates for the wealthy have been going down since the 80's.
These are the policies of trickle down economics. They've been going on for this whole time.
Sorry, bro. It works. But it only works if you're a multinational corporation or are already wealthy.
Quote:You are so misguided, it's sad.
That's all you got?
single payer insurance will be the single worse thing to happen to the American public in a century. Just ask a Vet how well state mandated and funded healthcare works.
Quote:single payer insurance will be the single worse thing to happen to the American public in a century. Just ask a Vet how well state mandated and funded healthcare works.
Keep your government hands off my medicare!!!!
Quote:single payer insurance will be the single worse thing to happen to the American public in a century. Just ask a Vet how well state mandated and funded healthcare works.
So very true.
Quote:This was always part of the plan. All of the major insurers are bailing on his signature legislation, and he's perfectly fine with that.
That is jacked up on so many levels. Just as democracy will never work in the Middle East, socialism will never work here. It is not what this country was built on and not what we should want. The damage the forcing of 'democracy' has done in the ME is indicative of the damage the forcing of socialism will be done here, just in a different way.
The "single payer" is the patient.
Quote:Keep your government hands off my medicare!!!!
1. Medicare is not single payer.
2. People on Medicare contributed to it all of their working life (admittedly by force). The have in a sense already paid for it out of their own pockets.
Quote:Clinton progressed free trade started by Reagan. Clinton deregulated the financial industry.
Effective tax rates for the wealthy have been going down since the 80's.
These are the policies of trickle down economics. They've been going on for this whole time.
Sorry, bro. It works. But it only works if you're a multinational corporation or are already wealthy.
"Effective" tax rates for the wealthy have risen. The lowering of the top rate was more than offset by elimination of most of the deductions during the Reagan administration. Back in the '60s most rich people paid no income tax since their lifestyle was all tax deductible. You might want to look up the "three martini lunch."
There have been numerous regulations imposed by the government, some by congress but most by unelected bureaucrats, that have driven good jobs for semi-skilled workers overseas. Having one of the highest corporate taxes in the world has also driven corporate headquarters overseas (to those third world tax havens like Ireland and Canada), along with a lot of clerical jobs.
Importing cheap foreign labor hasn't helped either, and that's on both parties (i.e. government by elites).
Quote:(to those third world tax havens like Ireland and Canada), along with a lot of clerical jobs.
I just had to lol, but I get what you are saying and you are right.
Quote:1. Medicare is not single payer.
2. People on Medicare contributed to it all of their working life (admittedly by force). The have in a sense already paid for it out of their own pockets.
Uh, are you sure about that?
Quote:Uh, are you sure about that?
Yes.
I like President Obama
That said, I must admit that Obamacare was going great for the 1st few weeks ....... unfortunately, they then got the website up and running and it all went down hill from there. <_<
Quote:I like President Obama
That said, I must admit that Obamacare was going great for the 1st few weeks ....... unfortunately, they then got the website up and running and it all went down hill from there. <_<
It's his own fault. He took single payer off the table and went with the conservative plan for healthcare.
I also like Obama, but there are alot of progressive campaign policies he ran on that he dropped for more conservative policies.
That said, the country is better with him than our would have been with a McCain or Romney.
Stop trying to take away people's rights to medical bankruptcy anchorman. Everyone's very happy paying massively inflated health costs compared to single payer nations who also live longer.
Quote:It's his own fault. He took single payer off the table and went with the conservative plan for healthcare.
I also like Obama, but there are alot of progressive campaign policies he ran on that he dropped for more conservative policies.
That said, the country is better with him than our would have been with a McCain or Romney.
There's simply no basis for that. In fact, his policies have held back economic growth. He's been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster, and a disappointment to all. If one were to be honest with themselves.
Don't cry and blame conservatism. He's had zero resistance to anything he's wanted. Even used executive order to end run Congress completely as desired.
Quote:There's simply no basis for that. In fact, his policies have held back economic growth. He's been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster, and a disappointment to all. If one were to be honest with themselves.
Don't cry and blame conservatism. He's had zero resistance to anything he's wanted. Even used executive order to end run Congress completely as desired.
Zero resistance? Now who needs to be honest with themselves...