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the creating of fundraising accounts a day or two before the actual shooting seems to be a trend:

 

 

http://sandyhookjusticereport.com/wp-con...er-One.pdf

this blog does a good job of summarizing the confusing circumstances surrounding the shooting: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/01/o...rests.html

The interwebz killed the tinfoil hat.

Good lord. No wonder Alex Jones stays in the news.

I haven't done a lot of research into Sandy Hook being a potential false flag, but I have no qualms about it being discussed, no matter how insensitive. The CIA/US Govt has done a lot of dastardly and subversive things in the past to accomplish their mission, so if anyone wants to question the validity of any event (even 9/11), go right ahead. I like to think that we as a society are responsible enough to form our own conclusions based on the evidence provided from both sides without the need of an CNN analyst or government press release telling us what to believe (but I am probably wrong).

Quote:That's right. Slurp it all up. Trump says.. why ask how? Why consider there's an actual process for things to get done when you can just say.. build that wall! It'll happen. Believe me.

 

 

<a class="" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._6061' title="H.R. 6061">H.R. 6061</a>, the "Secure Fence Act of 2006", was introduced on September 13, 2006. It passed through the U.S. House of Representatives on September 14, 2006 with a vote of 283–138.  On September 29, 2006, by a vote of 80–19 the <a class="" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Senate' title="U.S. Senate">U.S. Senate</a> confirmed H.R. 6061 authorizing, and partially funding the "possible" construction of 700 miles (1,125 km) of physical fence/barriers along the border.

Quote:no im not saying snopes is completely useless, but it's just one piece of all the vasts amounts of info out there. it just seems like posting a snopes article to some is like saying anything is "DEBUNKED" when it's really just one person with a computer doing internet research... which anybody can do for themselves

 

Yeah, the Snopes defense is always a funny one, especially since it's been pretty well exposed that the main political writer for them is an admitted left wing ideologue and blogger.  I'm sure there's some real extensive fact checking going on there when they "debunk" negative stories about their icons. 

 

As far as Sandy Hook not happening, and that it was just a false flag operation, I've seen compelling evidence supporting this, and I recognize what the motive would be.  If it was indeed a black flag, it failed miserably in trying to institute stricter gun laws. 

Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._6061'>H.R. 6061</a>, the "<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006'>Secure Fence Act of 2006</a>", was introduced on September 13, 2006. It passed through the <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives'>U.S. House of Representatives</a> on September 14, 2006 with a vote of 283–138. On September 29, 2006, by a vote of 80–19 the <a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Senate'>U.S. Senate</a> confirmed H.R. 6061 authorizing, and partially funding the "possible" construction of 700 miles (1,125 km) of physical fence/barriers along the border.

A 10 year old bill for partial funding of the possible construction of a portion of the border. I'm convinced.

Quote:A 10 year old bill for partial funding of the possible construction of a portion of the border. I'm convinced.

 

You asked about the process for getting such things done.  Building the wall is the law of the land, at least for 700 miles of it.  The process was via Congress, though they played cutesy by not funding it. 

And the gold medal for mental gymnastics goes to...

Amazing, isn't it. With hundreds, thousands, (millions?) of sources available on the internet and libraries - or the Library of Congress on the internet - there are still plenty of people who are gullible and/or dim-witted enough to keep the hucksters in business. You'd think by now ...

 

But that's ok! People like  Byron, Badger, and now FBT (compelling evidence!, lol) serve a purpose. They are That Guy. Every time I see one of their - I really know what's going on and you don't  - posts I think to myself, no matter what's going on at least I'm not That Guy.

 

You don't want to be That Guy. The one they whisper about and chuckle.

Quote:Amazing, isn't it. With hundreds, thousands, (millions?) of sources available on the internet and libraries - or the Library of Congress on the internet - there are still plenty of people who are gullible and/or dim-witted enough to keep the hucksters in business. You'd think by now ...

 

But that's ok! People like  Byron, Badger, and now FBT (compelling evidence!, lol) serve a purpose. They are That Guy. Every time I see one of their - I really know what's going on and you don't  - posts I think to myself, no matter what's going on at least I'm not That Guy.

 

You don't want to be That Guy. The one they whisper about and chuckle.

 

All you've done is thrown out judgments and insults.  You have not commented on any actual evidence or attempted to provide answers, so I don't know why you think you are so superior.

Quote:And the gold medal for mental gymnastics goes to...

 

The person who posts facts instead of thinly-veiled insults?

Quote:All you've done is thrown out judgments and insults.  You have not commented on any actual evidence or attempted to provide answers, so I don't know why you think you are so superior.

 

Why would I want to argue a loony, phony issue? I'm sure you've found plenty of semi-adults who think along your lines and you can wile away the hours regarding conspiracies and dark secrets. So cool.

 

I love the way some of you guys love to act as if you are CIA operatives. False flags! Black flags! Call Ollie North - he'll back you up.

 

That Guy. 

Quote:All you've done is thrown out judgments and insults.  You have not commented on any actual evidence or attempted to provide answers, so I don't know why you think you are so superior.

 

That's all Byron deserves tbqh. 

Quote:The person who posts facts instead of thinly-veiled insults?

If you actually look at the facts on this "tremendous" wall that have been proposed and review the supportive evidence you listed, you see evidence Trump has a plan to actually make this happen? (Do I ask the follow up about Mexico paying for it?)


"Believe me." is not a factual system. "I'm gonna make it happen." is also not rooted in fact.


You produced an unfunded, partial possibility that is 10 years old and stand on it as fact? The fact is you have not produced evidence this is a workable plan. Though you have produced far more than Trump has. You have not produced evidence Trump has any clue what this wall will cost (it keeps getting taller which impacts cost). Furthermore, it's one of the dumbest [BLEEP] ideas ever as it won't work.

Quote:"Believe me." is not a factual system. "I'm gonna make it happen." is also not rooted in fact.

 

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan."  "We will have the most transparent administration in history."  Blah blah blah.  Politicians lie, speak vaguely, and stretch the truth to garner support.  Not unique to the Trumpster.

At least those are quantifiable lies.

Quote:Why would I want to argue a loony, phony issue? I'm sure you've found plenty of semi-adults who think along your lines and you can wile away the hours regarding conspiracies and dark secrets. So cool.

 

I love the way some of you guys love to act as if you are CIA operatives. False flags! Black flags! Call Ollie North - he'll back you up.

 

That Guy. 

 

then don't. get out.

Quote:"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan." "We will have the most transparent administration in history." Blah blah blah. Politicians lie, speak vaguely, and stretch the truth to garner support. Not unique to the Trumpster.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."