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August 4, 2016
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Reince Priebus

Republican National Committee

P.O. Box 96994

Washington DC 20090-6994

 

RE: 2016 Congressional District Census

 

Dear Mr. Priebus:

 

I recently received from you a plea – your second notice – that I complete and return the survey of my views on current issues in the United States. My views would help the party develop a campaign strategy for the important weeks ahead.  I recently dropped my registration in the Republican Party, so my opinions are irrelevant to your survey. I do, however, hope that the views expressed in this note will be of help.

 

I have been a registered Republican since 1969. As I have gotten older and wiser, it has become apparent to me that the GOP is the second head (a donkey represents the other) of a creature that is run by wealthy, powerful, and evil entities which have gained control of nearly every institution and business in this country. Oh, the heads squabble dramatically for the voters, and are fairly successful in convincing us that they really have a different agenda for the future, but the charade is wearing thin. The emperor’s clothes are fading away. Enter Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump, offering some truth that the powers-that-be find intolerable. I understand that none of this is news to you.

 

I cannot in good conscience support the Republican Party any longer. The attempts by a number of party leaders to undermine the primary process and otherwise derail the instincts of the voters who favor Mr. Trump is the last straw in a decades-long growing frustration with the apparent impotence of the Republicans. No impact on the progressive agenda as it has unfolded, even now, after nearly two years of control of the House and Senate, must lead to the inescapable conclusion that the GOP is cooperating with that agenda. I am done with being lied to by party leaders.

 

As some leaders of the GOP have started expressing preference for Hillary Clinton over Mr. Trump, their true allegiance to the aforementioned powers rather than the American people becomes obvious. Their self-righteous condemnation of Trump’s views and persona only strengthen his popularity, because a lot of people, like me, are no longer impressed by anything these people have to say and assume the opposite must be true. I am always amused by complaints that Mr. Trump is a boorish, clumsy speaker. How many smooth-talking politicians have screwed over the American people during the past 50 years? I offer up our current president as a prime example, and I regret that Paul Ryan falls in the same category.

 

These are difficult times for our country and the world. It would help if there existed a political party that actually possessed a modicum of integrity and would actually fight for a healthy economy and a foreign policy that was based on some sort of realistic assessment of America’s place in the world. I suggest the reform of the GOP into an organization that actually pursues the values it espouses would change everything.

 

Sincerely,


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http://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/0...e-priebus/

That's a fantastic letter.

 

It should have it's own paragraph in a history of the Republican party wiki.

 

One distinction I see is that Republicans (who are conservative at the core, not necessarily bound to party) tend to be more independent thinkers.  Their religion is not their political affiliation, unlike the D.  They don't serve their party religiously, placing it above God, family, and country as D's do.

Quote:That's a fantastic letter.


It should have it's own paragraph in a history of the Republican party wiki.


One distinction I see is that Republicans (who are conservative at the core, not necessarily bound to party) tend to be more independent thinkers. Their religion is not their political affiliation, unlike the D. They don't serve their party religiously, placing it above God, family, and country as D's do.

Get off your high horse.


Dems say EXACTLY the same thing about repubs. You just don't want to accept that.

Quote:That's a fantastic letter.

 

It should have it's own paragraph in a history of the Republican party wiki.

 

One distinction I see is that Republicans (who are conservative at the core, not necessarily bound to party) tend to be more independent thinkers.  Their religion is not their political affiliation, unlike the D.  They don't serve their party religiously, placing it above God, family, and country as D's do.

I wish this were true, but sadly is not. I know many, many Republicans who feel the GOP should legislate morality through law. They absolutely see the government as who should control the country through very conservative beliefs and if you try to explain how the Bible does not have anything specific to say about that whatsoever, they will open up on you like you insulted their mother. For a group of people who are supposedly against big government they sure do like to think government should enforce their beliefs by law. They don't realize they need to practice their beliefs and let people's immoral actions be judged by their Creator. That's as close as I'm getting to explaining it without breaking CoC rules. 

 

These folks are not independent thinkers. They wouldn't know how to think outside the box or try to see another POV to save their lives. They will absolutely vote Republican no matter what because they equate that with conservative values which is not the case now as it was in the past, but they don't care. Voting Libertarian for these folks is not an option- at all.

 

Others who are not so conservative will vote R because they always have or the thought of voting Libertarian does not line up with their social views. They are a little more open minded than the above group but not by much.

 

The democrats are all about if you don't agree with them then you hate them. More republicans are like that than people think except you don't hate them per se, you hate their beliefs which is true in a lot of cases. They're the same, really. They just stand on opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes to what they complain about. 

He's on a roll...breaking records of well over 100 years. Trump continues to make news...


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-tu...d=41156215

great letter.  It didn't even have to be addressed to a specific party because it fits both. 


Side note.  I find it hilarious every Bernie person I know has recently switched to supporting Gary Johnson, which is fine of course.  But how the hell do you go from supporting big government and more welfare to supporting a person who wants to drastically reduce the size of government and its many programs.

Quote:great letter.  It didn't even have to be addressed to a specific party because it fits both. 

Side note.  I find it hilarious every Bernie person I know has recently switched to supporting Gary Johnson, which is fine of course.  But how the hell do you go from supporting big government and more welfare to supporting a person who wants to drastically reduce the size of government and its many programs.

Because he's not Republican/Trump, who they will never vote for and he's not Hillary Clinton, who is public enemy #1 in their mind. At this point they feel like they're not being heard anyway so go big or go home.

Quote:Because he's not Republican/Trump, who they will never vote for and he's not Hillary Clinton, who is public enemy #1 in their mind. At this point they feel like they're not being heard anyway so go big or go home.

Its one thing to feel like you are not being heard, its another thing to denounce everything you believe in and support a guy who wants to do the opposite of what you want out of spite.

Quote:I wish this were true, but sadly is not. I know many, many Republicans who feel the GOP should legislate morality through law. They absolutely see the government as who should control the country through very conservative beliefs and if you try to explain how the Bible does not have anything specific to say about that whatsoever, they will open up on you like you insulted their mother. For a group of people who are supposedly against big government they sure do like to think government should enforce their beliefs by law. They don't realize they need to practice their beliefs and let people's immoral actions be judged by their Creator. That's as close as I'm getting to explaining it without breaking CoC rules. 

 

These folks are not independent thinkers. They wouldn't know how to think outside the box or try to see another POV to save their lives. They will absolutely vote Republican no matter what because they equate that with conservative values which is not the case now as it was in the past, but they don't care. Voting Libertarian for these folks is not an option- at all.

 

Others who are not so conservative will vote R because they always have or the thought of voting Libertarian does not line up with their social views. They are a little more open minded than the above group but not by much.

 

The democrats are all about if you don't agree with them then you hate them. More republicans are like that than people think except you don't hate them per se, you hate their beliefs which is true in a lot of cases. They're the same, really. They just stand on opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes to what they complain about. 

I agree with everything you stated however when Bernie supporters upon hearing and seeing the evidence that the democratic party just screwed them and yet openly support Hillary I have to take a step back.

Quote:I agree with everything you stated however when Bernie supporters upon hearing and seeing the evidence that the democratic party just screwed them and yet openly support Hillary I have to take a step back.

Not all of them support her though. There is a group that is so against her because of that whole fiasco (and obviously very much against Trump) that they are actually considering Johnson. I'd be mad as hell too if I were them, especially to have him turn around and 'endorse' her no matter how much he didn't want to. He should have grown a pair and told the Democratic party where they could stick that suggestion. 

Quote:Its one thing to feel like you are not being heard, its another thing to denounce everything you believe in and support a guy who wants to do the opposite of what you want out of spite.

I don't disagree, but they got routed like nobody's business and are probably frustrated as hell and don't know where to direct it. 

Quote:I wish this were true, but sadly is not. I know many, many Republicans who feel the GOP should legislate morality through law. They absolutely see the government as who should control the country through very conservative beliefs and if you try to explain how the Bible does not have anything specific to say about that whatsoever, they will open up on you like you insulted their mother. For a group of people who are supposedly against big government they sure do like to think government should enforce their beliefs by law. They don't realize they need to practice their beliefs and let people's immoral actions be judged by their Creator. That's as close as I'm getting to explaining it without breaking CoC rules. 

 

But that's not what he was talking about. He was saying that Dems worship their party as if it were a religion, agreeing with and defending the power structure, while Pubs frequently disagree with the party line. From my left-leaning friends I've heard plenty of defense of everything Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, have done (well maybe not drone assassinations, but that's a minor quibble). That's not the case with Boehner and McConnell.