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Quote:Nobody wishes that you were dead rj. Even though we disagree at times and have our "conflicts" I don't ever mean ill will towards you... and I truly mean that. That being said, the system does need to be upgraded and/or changed (reform).



I agree with you for the most part. I wouldn't exactly say that Reagan "scammed" Americans out of the money, but it was the start of a precedent that got out of control very quickly. What the situation does illustrate is how government is the problem.


Reagan, Geenspan and the heist - <a class="bbc_url" href='http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/how-ronald-reagan-and-alan-greenspan-pulled-off-the-greatest-fraud-ever-perpetrated-against-the-american-people/'>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/how-ronald-reagan-and-alan-greenspan-pulled-off-the-greatest-fraud-ever-perpetrated-against-the-american-people/</a>


Plenty of other articles on it.
Quote:Reagan, Geenspan and the heist - <a class="bbc_url" href='http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/how-ronald-reagan-and-alan-greenspan-pulled-off-the-greatest-fraud-ever-perpetrated-against-the-american-people/'>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/how-ronald-reagan-and-alan-greenspan-pulled-off-the-greatest-fraud-ever-perpetrated-against-the-american-people/</a>


Plenty of other articles on it.
 

I won't dispute or disagree with you that it was the start.  However, it's become "the norm" in today's politics and has been since then.
Quote:What is pitiful is the performance of our government in the management of the SS system. If they would simply eliminate the fraud involved there would be plenty of cash to make it work. When you have dead folks family still receiving and cashing checks for 20 years after the persons passing there is a serious problem.
 

Also there was a mad rush for people who had exhausted their 99 weeks of unemployment to apply for SS disability.  Millions were approved and fraud was rampant.  The disability portion of SS is gutting the retirement portion. 
Quote:Also there was a mad rush for people who had exhausted their 99 weeks of unemployment to apply for SS disability. Millions were approved and fraud was rampant. The disability portion of SS is gutting the retirement portion.


This.


I don't have an article or proof, but I do believe there has been a noticeable surge in cases like that. Why work, when you can get paid similarly for staying home?
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