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Quote:.... that by mere coincidence occurred on the same night, same tarmac, same time as the hostage release. Yeah totally legit.

 

LOL, so the bengazi arguement.  Something nefarrious happened.  Could it be that there was an opening where alot of things could get done in a short amount of time?

 

Also, were there ever any other hostages that the Obama administration paid a ransom to?  Correlation does not mean causation, friend... 

 

Lastly, you forget there was another negotiation going on with Iran...  One in which a nuclear deal was agreed upon...  Hmmm... Remember that?  did you know that we actually unfroze an addititional 400 Billion on top of this 1.7 Billion?

 

You guys are so desperate for something you make the silliest little things into something "fishy"...  From what I've read so far, there's not "there", there...

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It was paid in cash...  What more do you want to know?  It was paid in foreign currency...  LOL, get real, snowflake.  

Anchorman, I asked two specific questions. Here I'll copy and paste them and feel free to answer those two specific questions.


Feel free to tell me why they never informed the American people of the mission and kept it secret? If they answered that question then I missed it.


Also, what happened to the other 1.3 Billion? How was it paid? They never told us about the secret shipment of $400 million and unless I'm mistaken, they haven't told us how they paid the other 1.3 Billion. Did they ship it on a boat, fly it in, shoot a rocket full of cash? That is what I'm asking. Saw you post that is all we need to know... Really? If the answer isn't a big deal then why aren't they answering?


Anchorman, I've read the entire "official" statement that you posted. Please try and read my entire post like this one in the future so we don't take up an entire page and my time which apparently isn't too valuable.

Quote:Also, what happened to the other 1.3 Billion? How was it paid?.

 

It was paid directly to the Clinton Foundation, duh.

Quote:Anchorman, I asked two specific questions. Here I'll copy and paste them and feel free to answer those two specific questions.


Feel free to tell me why they never informed the American people of the mission and kept it secret? If they answered that question then I missed it.


Also, what happened to the other 1.3 Billion? How was it paid? They never told us about the secret shipment of $400 million and unless I'm mistaken, they haven't told us how they paid the other 1.3 Billion. Did they ship it on a boat, fly it in, shoot a rocket full of cash? That is what I'm asking.


Anchorman, I've read the entire "official" statement that you posted. Please try and read my entire post like this one in the future so we don't take up an entire page and my time which apparently isn't too valuable.

 

I answered the "Other 1.3 Billion"...  The total amount was 1.3 Billion.  The first payment of the 1.3 Billion was the 400 million in cash...  I think you might have just missed that part.  ---Therefore the second question has been answered.

 

As for your first question which is:   why weren't the US informed of the negotiations?  You got me on that one.  Maybe because he didn't want a bunch of snowflakes that hate Iran to try and squash the deal by talking to the press and writing open letters to the Iranian government? 

 

I wonder how many negotiations go on without our knowledge... Probably alot...  But that's not nefarious, or out of the norm for Presidents.  Seriously, we're a representative democracy, for crying out loud.  Our representatives do alot of negotiations behind closed doors.  What's important is that we are then informed of the deals after they have been done.  Which in my mind, has occurred here.

 

So there, I think I've answered all your questions...  Yes?  I'm honestly trying to be as open with this conversation as possible because of my respect for your line of inquiry.  Trust me, I'm not trying to confuse the topic.  Just trying to get to a proper level of understanding.

Lol... an unpaid "debt" that was never intended to be paid.  Ever.

 

Suddenly gets paid, and the hostages were not allowed to leave until that payment arrived.

 

Pull your head out of your [BLEEP] once and for all.

 

Do you even realize how far you have to contort to defend this nonsense?

Quote:Lol... an unpaid "debt" that was never intended to be paid. Ever.


Suddenly gets paid, and the hostages were not allowed to leave until that payment arrived.


Pull your head out of your [BAD WORD REMOVED] once and for all.


Do you even realize how far you have to contort to defend this nonsense?

Did you miss the part where they were basically suing us for the money we owed them?


Dude, I'm not even defending this transaction. I'm just pointing out the facts of the transaction and the context in which the transaction occurred.


There is no there, there. Sorry...

Anchorman, let me ask one more time.

 

The Obama administration has refused to disclose how it paid any of the $1.7 billion, despite congressional queries, outside of saying that it wasn’t paid in dollars.

 

​Now why would the Obama administration refuse to disclose how money was paid to a State Sponsor of Terrorism despite congressional queries?  Is that not odd?

Quote:Anchorman, let me ask one more time.

The Obama administration has refused to disclose how it paid any of the $1.7 billion, <span style="font-size:18px;">despite congressional queries
, outside of saying that it wasn’t paid in dollars</span>.


​Now why would the Obama administration refuse to disclose how money was paid to a State Sponsor of Terrorism despite congressional queries? Is that not odd?

JIB, my most special snowflake, I've already responded to this.


How the money was paid was in cash, using foreign currency.


It was paid to a nation that we have had an adversarial relationship with for 3 decades, but had created an opening to potentially normalize relations with.


This money along with 350 billion of other assets were being released back to Iran..


All part of a detante... I've had to educate you on how post convention bumps work, do you need some insight on high level diplomatic negotiating as well?


:-)

This isn't even a story anymore. It was brought up and explained. But of course vote trump and you can skip out on your debts.

Quote:JIB, my most special snowflake, I've already responded to this.


How the money was paid was in cash, using foreign currency.


It was paid to a nation that we have had an adversarial relationship with for 3 decades, but had created an opening to potentially normalize relations with.


This money along with 350 billion of other assets were being released back to Iran..


All part of a detante... I've had to educate you on how post convention bumps work, do you need some insight on high level diplomatic negotiating as well?


:-)

 

Once again, you fail to answer the simple question.  Why does the Obama administration refuse to disclose how it paid the debt?  Why is it kept secret?  Why is there no response to congressional queries, you know by Congress who actually holds the purse?

 

You just continually answer with the supposed "why" the cash was paid, but don't answer why there was no full disclosure from the "transparent" administration regime.

Quote:Once again, you fail to answer the simple question. Why does the Obama administration refuse to disclose how it paid the debt? Why is it kept secret? Why is there no response to congressional queries, you know by Congress who actually holds the purse?


You just continually answer with the supposed "why" the cash was paid, but don't answer why there was no full disclosure from the "transparent" <del>administration</del> regime.

Does Congress hold the purse strings of cash sitting frozen in an account?

Quote:Once again, you fail to answer the simple question. Why does the Obama administration refuse to disclose how it paid the debt? Why is it kept secret? Why is there no response to congressional queries, you know by Congress who actually holds the purse?


You just continually answer with the supposed "why" the cash was paid, but don't answer why there was no full disclosure from the "transparent" <del>administration</del> regime.

Lol, so your question is not about the why, but the how???


You realize that is the least interesting aspect of this, right? The money was frozen back in 1979... meaning that these assets have been accounted for and had probably been earning a pretty good return for the usa for over 35 years!!


Lol, what, pray tell, are you worried about? Do you honestly think that this money was procured from another account illegally? The money has been working for the us government for over 3 decades, man.


Please, if there is some other theory you have to account for the 400 million, fill us all in...

Quote:Lol, so your question is not about the why, but the how???


You realize that is the least interesting aspect of this, right? The money was frozen back in 1979... meaning that these assets have been accounted for and had probably been earning a pretty good return for the usa for over 35 years!!


Lol, what, pray tell, are you worried about? Do you honestly think that this money was procured from another account illegally? The money has been working for the us government for over 3 decades, man.


Please, if there is some other theory you have to account for the 400 million, fill us all in...

 

So again a non-answer from you.  I wouldn't expect otherwise.  You can't answer or justify why the Obama regime tried to hide what was going on and or why they wouldn't disclose it to a congressional query.  It doesn't bother you in the least bit that the current administration regime would transfer $400 million in foreign currency to a known State Sponsor of Terror?  It doesn't bother you at all that this was actual physical currency on pallets in a cargo aircraft?

 

Answer the simple question.  Why did the current Administration regime refuse to disclose what was going on to a congressional query?

If Obama really wanted to help Iran out he could always spend trillions of dollars to overthrow the antagonistic Sunni government of their closest neighbor and replace it with an Iran-friendly Shiite run government. 

Quote:So again a non-answer from you.  I wouldn't expect otherwise.  You can't answer or justify why the Obama regime tried to hide what was going on and or why they wouldn't disclose it to a congressional query.  It doesn't bother you in the least bit that the current administration regime would transfer $400 million in foreign currency to a known State Sponsor of Terror?  It doesn't bother you at all that this was actual physical currency on pallets in a cargo aircraft?

 

Answer the simple question.  Why did the current Administration regime refuse to disclose what was going on to a congressional query?

 

I actually did both, I answered and I justified.  You don't like the facts, so you ignore them.  Just like you ignore logic and objectivity.  I've explained the context of negotiating and proving back the funds we froze out that originally belonged to the Iranian state.  I've pointed out the fact that the money was Iran's to begin with and that your inquiry is easily explained and a non-issue.  I've asked you to clarify the concern you have with the accounting of the actually money, and pointed out how the money was already accounted for based on a 30 year history between the USA and Iran.  You keep asking the same questions I've answered over and over again. 

 

Point out exactly where what I have written which you believe is wrong.  Point out what exactly that I have stated you disagree with...  you can't.  

 

 

You have become a lazy poster that likes to wallow in the mud to cool yourself.  You're no longer actually trying to have a debate.  You're become fat with hyperbole, and corrupted with hypocrisy.  Very much like a cloven footed mammal with no sweat glands.

 

If you want to actually call me out on specifics, I'll respond further.  

 

But at this point, I've provided the only facts and details in the conversation.  Meanwhile you've oinked and snorted about excrement which you cool yourself with, but provide no true value in which to further the life of this conversation.

Fresh hell people. Why do you go round and round with someone you know won't give you a straight answer? Or at least one to your satisfaction? It's like you enjoy the flogging. But hey, whatever gets your socks hot.

Quote:I answered the "Other 1.3 Billion"... The total amount was 1.3 Billion. The first payment of the 1.3 Billion was the 400 million in cash... I think you might have just missed that part. ---Therefore the second question has been answered.


As for your first question which is: why weren't the US informed of the negotiations? You got me on that one. Maybe because he didn't want a bunch of snowflakes that hate Iran to try and squash the deal by talking to the press and writing open letters to the Iranian government?


I wonder how many negotiations go on without our knowledge... Probably alot... But that's not nefarious, or out of the norm for Presidents. Seriously, we're a representative democracy, for crying out loud. Our representatives do alot of negotiations behind closed doors. What's important is that we are then informed of the deals after they have been done. Which in my mind, has occurred here.


So there, I think I've answered all your questions... Yes? I'm honestly trying to be as open with this conversation as possible because of my respect for your line of inquiry. Trust me, I'm not trying to confuse the topic. Just trying to get to a proper level of understanding.

1.7 Billion is the total. A simple Google search will show that for 3 pages.


No you literally are trying to not answer it or you just honestly aren't reading what I'm writing.


The Government never told us how 1.7 Billion was paid and only know how 400 million of the 1.7 Billion was paid through investigative journalism. The Government is refusing to answer how the 1.3 Billion was paid or show how it was paid. We still don't know (except they told us in cash money). I am curious to know as corrupt as our Government is, why you are okay with whatever line they give us as long as it fits your narrative you don't question, but you question everything the police does and demand answers. If I gave you the same lines you are giving me on police you guys would be going bananas.


So telling us after the deal went down would have allowed snowflakes to keep it from going down? You are seriously wayyyyyy too trusting of your Government.


I think 1.3 Billion (with a B) should be disclosed on how they paid those monies since it is our money going to a terrorist state. I do not believe that is an unreasonable disclosure by our Goverment.


They won't answer simple questions. And they act like asking them is absurd. We sent 1.7 Billion to a terrorist state, gave them money all of a sudden right at the exact time 4 prisoners were released. And Dems are seriously perplexed as to why people would question that and their line is "the Government told us so..." Jesus Mary something about Joseph.


Pirkster, you said it well.

Quote:Fresh hell people. Why do you go round and round with someone you know won't give you a straight answer? Or at least one to your satisfaction? It's like you enjoy the flogging. But hey, whatever gets your socks hot.

Cuz we dumb.