Look like the Seahawks are listening to offers for him.
He is 29 years old (today, happy birthday...), 2 years left on his contract ($13 millions both year).
What would you give for him ?
Ramsey - Sherman - Bouye - Colvin.....
We definintely don't need more CBs
I love Sherman, but I wouldn't trade for him. We have too many other needs to be giving up draft picks. I'd see if they'd take Chad Henne and Jeremy Parnell for him and move on. :woot:
Quote:I love Sherman, but I wouldn't trade for him. We have too many other needs to be giving up draft picks. I'd see if they'd take Chad Henne and Jeremy Parnell for him and move on. :woot:
Why not just give them a handful of magic beans? :woot:
Quote:Why not just give them a handful of magic beans? :woot:
We can't take the chance that they'd grow into a magic beanstalk.
Pass. Overrated. The Earl Bennett, Kam Chancillor, Bobby Wagner and others made him look good.
Quote:We can't take the chance that they'd grow into a magic beanstalk.
That would be just our luck that it would lead to the land of franchise QBs.
Not worth it. We are at the point of diminishing returns at the position.
We would get more bang for our buck investing somewhere else.
would only really make sense if we didnt get bouye
You don't need to spend that kind of money to bring in a guy who will cover players who will only average 30 yards a game being covered by other team's third CB.
His ego on a losing team May be a disaster.
Did anybody ever think that after winning 14 games in 4 years, Jaguar fans would turn their noses up at the thought of Richard Sherman wearing the teal and black? Amazing.
Quote:Did anybody ever think that after winning 14 games in 4 years, Jaguar fans would turn their noses up at the thought of Richard Sherman wearing the teal and black? Amazing.
Good personnel procurement will do that.
Nothing amazing about not wanting to bring in a high priced CB right after acquiring two of the best young CBs in the league.
What would be amazing would to continue to dump your resources on a position that may already be your greatest strength considering all of the weaknesses you have at other positions. This would be the perfect example of how not to improve you team.
Quote:Nothing amazing about not wanting to bring in a high priced CB right after acquiring two of the best young CBs in the league.
What would be amazing would to continue to dump your resources on a position that may already be your greatest strength considering all of the weaknesses you have at other positions. This would be the perfect example of how not to improve you team.
I agree we should not trade for Sherman.
But adding a player at a position of strength isn't necessarily a bad strategy.
GBN report has a good article on the various approaches to building a team and the last entry details drafting to strength.
http://gbnreport.com/features/draft-day-theories/
In relevant part...
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<b>Building from strength:</b> We almost always talk about using the draft to fix weaknesses; this may not always be necessarily the most efficient way to build a team however. In a nutshell, the problem with this approach is that if a team brings a strong player into a weak unit, opponents can quickly neutralize the impact of that player by double-teaming or playing away from them. If on the other hand a team drafts to its strength, it is possible to create a super unit that make all other units on the team better simply because opponents have to invest so much in stopping the good unit that the weaker ones are allowed considerable liberties.
There are a few examples that readily leap to mind for me:
1. The Early 1980s Giants drafting OLB Carl Banks to a LB corps that already featured Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, Gary Reasons and Byron Hunt.
2. The 1985 49er adding Jerry Rice to a receiving corps that featured Dwight Clark and Freddie Solomon, who just won the Super Bowl the year before.
3. The 1994 Cowboys adding Larry Allen to an OL that already won back to back Super Bowls and powered that Dallas running game.
4. The 1998 Vikings adding WR Randy Moss to a WR corps that featured Cris Carter and Jake Reed.
Quote:Nothing amazing about not wanting to bring in a high priced CB right after acquiring two of the best young CBs in the league.
What would be amazing would to continue to dump your resources on a position that may already be your greatest strength considering all of the weaknesses you have at other positions. This would be the perfect example of how not to improve you team.
Ignoring potentially available talent because you believe it is already a position of strength is a recipe for a sub par franchise. Same scenario as need based drafting.
Quote:I agree we should not trade for Sherman.
But adding a player at a position of strength isn't necessarily a bad strategy.
GBN report has a good article on the various approaches to building a team and the last entry details drafting to strength.
http://gbnreport.com/features/draft-day-theories/
In relevant part...
There are a few examples that readily leap to mind for me:
1. The Early 1980s Giants drafting OLB Carl Banks to a LB corps that already featured Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, Gary Reasons and Byron Hunt.
2. The 1985 49er adding Jerry Rice to a receiving corps that featured Dwight Clark and Freddie Solomon, who just won the Super Bowl the year before.
3. The 1994 Cowboys adding Larry Allen to an OL that already won back to back Super Bowls and powered that Dallas running game.
4. The 1998 Vikings adding WR Randy Moss to a WR corps that featured Cris Carter and Jake Reed.
So you show a bunch of examples of bringing in a young player behind high end veterans.
That is the complete opposite of our situation.
Quote:Ignoring potentially available talent because you believe it is already a position of strength is a recipe for a sub par franchise. Same scenario as need based drafting.
Free agency is 100% about picking for need otherwise you are just wasting your cap space.
Quote:So you show a bunch of examples of bringing in a young player behind high end veterans.
That is the complete opposite of our situation.
1. They were positions of strength.
Not a particularly difficult concept to grasp.
2. How do you define "high end veteran?" Lawrence Taylor was in his 4th year when Banks was drafted, and Banks did not play behind him. He was a rookie starter opposite Taylor. Bouye is now a 5th year player. Erik Williams was a 4th year player when Larry Allen was drafted.
But if you want to move the goalposts so to speak, the Giants STILL illustrate my point when they had Michael Strahan (vet) and then added Osi Umeniyiora in 2003, Justin Tuck in 2005, and Mathias Kiwanuka in 2006. When the Giants last won the Super Bowl in 2011, they had Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz and Mario Manningham-all of whom were 25 and younger. The next year's draft they added Reuben Randle in the 2nd round, and in 2014 they added OBJ.