Quote:Fixed that for you.
So I went to this dinner party at some girls house. I don't really care for her, matter of fact I can't stand her. But my wife made me go, so what do you do? Anyhoo, at the dinner party, this terrible woman, probably trying to kill us all, made california rolls (a form a sushi) as an appetizer.
I hate sushi. Well, I've never had sushi, but I know I hate it for the following reasons. 1. Other people have told me how terrible it would taste. 2. I hate this woman, so I know it's gonna suck.
Anyways, I told her I refused to eat the sushi, and I told her to get it out of here or I would make sure that nobody would eat anything at the dinner party. No sushi no dinner, no nothing.
She said that it was her house and her dinner party, and she would serve what she wanted. I then began to throw a ginormous fit, a scene that disrupted everything. The other guests were going hungry and getting quite mad at me. Anyways, this lasted for a couple hours. After I realized that the host of the party wasn't going to budge, because you know, it was her house, I finally gave in. And everyone was allowed to eat.
Later on, people asked me why I made that house party so terrible. I told them, hey, jerks. It's not my fault. She was the one that made sushi and didn't want to throw it away after I told her how much I hated it.
That my friend, is the stupidity of the logic that Ted Cruz and the Republicans fed you and you ate up. I personally think that logic smells like total trash. But hey, that's just me.
Quote:I believe he would cut it, but only from social services, not from the defense contracting/big corporate tax credits, which is a much bigger problem IMO. If your gonna waste money, at least spend it on Americans, not building bombs to goto wars we don't need or subsidizing corn(why?).
Don't get me wrong, I support cutting back on basically everything but Social Security (cause you deserve back what you put in), but I don't like the current GOPe policy of only going after seniors, veterans, and poor for their cuts. We shouldn't be giving tax refunds in excess of what people and especially huge corporations like GE put in.
Teds 10% tax plan is a joke that will get dumped the moment the election is over. I want the IRS gone as much as anyone else, but you have to tax at the effective rate, not some made up % (effective is around 18% for most citizens). And you have to make it for corporations also. We may have a 'high' sticker corporate tax rate, but in reality the 'net rate' is one of the lowest. A flat rate would be better for all involved, but I doubt 10% is enough to get rid of our debt.
For the record u r dead wring about corporate subsidies specifically corn. Cruz opposed the corn subsidy in iowa while running in the caucus. Thats legit commitment.
As for this continued caricature that pubs want to cut social services thats a doomsday fantaay of the left. Right now the federal budget automatically increases by around 8%. The economy hasnt grown at that rate in a while now. Reducing the rate of growth freezing it or reducing actual spending brings us into balance within 5 to ten years.
On the defense side both republican candidates have talked about eliminating no bid contracts that lead to a hammer costing 400.
The big entitlements have to have common sense reforms but thats because of math not malice.
Quote:Whatever happened to you? You used to post sensible things.
Use some logic. At most Cruz could filibuster for less than a day. The shutdown was a lot longer than that. Cruz could not have been the cause of the shutdown.
Lol, I still have my moments. And I think my little parable is quite clever.
But I think you need to go back and revisit how lying Ted influenced the house of reps to do his bidding.
His filibuster was a total stunt. The house of reps were the actual pawns that followed his stupid pleads to try and get rid of Obama care with a government shut down.
The fact that anyone would believe that Obama would ever sign off on anything that would hurt his signature piece of legislation is delusional.
Quote:Lol, I still have my moments. And I think my little parable is quite clever.
But I think you need to go back and revisit how lying Ted influenced the house of reps to do his bidding.
His filibuster was a total stunt. The house of reps were the actual pawns that followed his stupid pleads to try and get rid of Obama care with a government shut down.
The fact that anyone would believe that Obama would ever sign off on anything that would hurt his signature piece of legislation is delusional.
Senator barrack Obama ran against the idea of a healthcare mandate it was a significant policy decision that separated him from then Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Delaying the implementation of the individual mandate, which was the final hour demand of the house that led to the government shutdown, can't be seen as an unreasonable position when that was the stance of the president as a candidate.
Quote:Senator barrack Obama ran against the idea of a healthcare mandate it was a significant policy decision that separated him from then Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Delaying the implementation of the individual mandate, which was the final hour demand of the house that led to the government shutdown, can't be seen as an unreasonable position when that was the stance of the president as a candidate.
your deflection is quite lame. with all due respect...
Quote:Ted Cruz influenced the House of Representatives? Ted Cruz? The same Ted Cruz who the party establishment only hates slightly less than Trump? What have you been smoking?
And as jj pointed out, the House budget wasn't a total repeal of the ACA. It was a one-year delay in implementation of the individual mandate and some corporate requirements, two things Obama himself unilaterally delayed for a year shortly thereafter. Harry Reid put all of those non-essential government employees our of work to oppose something Obama did anyway.
1. Yes, Ted Cruz influenced the House. That's part of the reason why he's so hated now! I mean, seriously, this isn't ancient history. It happened only 3 years ago. You can google the timeline for yourself!
2. JJ is wrong... The one year delay was the 2nd attempt after the first attempt was rejected by the Senate (as everyone knew it would) and then sent back to the House.
Here's a link
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpoliti...n-timeline
Quote:your deflection is quite lame. with all due respect...
Wow unable to come up with a response huh. Its okay. How do u spell erudite again?
Quote:Wow unable to come up with a response huh. Its okay. How do u spell erudite again?
I choose not to respond to deflections based on nonsense arguments, no offense. I responded to Malabar, though. :-)
You're absolutely right. Pointing out Blatant hypocrisy and political posturing is just deflection. Nevermind your misstatement that the shutdown was a total repeal of obamacare which it wasn't. Lets not let facts and historical context get in the way of painting the republicans as evil rich guys who don't care about the government workers making twice the national average.
Quote:You're absolutely right. Pointing out Blatant hypocrisy and political posturing is just deflection. Nevermind your misstatement that the shutdown was a total repeal of obamacare which it wasn't. Lets not let facts and historical context get in the way of painting the republicans as evil rich guys who don't care about the government workers making twice the national average.
Remember that lady that made California roll sushi that I demanded she throw away?
Originally, she was gonna make spicy tuna roll sushi, because that's her favorite. But must of the dinner guests preferred her to make California rolls. Except for me of course. I preferred she made nothing and I could stay home.
What a hypocrite she was for not throwing out the California rolls as I demanded! She didn't even want to make California rolls! She wanted the spicy tuna rolls in the first place.
See how dumb your deflection was, now? With all due respect, of course.
As for the history of the shut down time line, I provided a credible link that supports my position, which I've called you out on.
You, with all due respect, you are wrong.
Check out the link I provided, refute it, if you can.
Quote:Remember that lady that made California roll sushi that I demanded she throw away?
Originally, she was gonna make spicy tuna roll sushi, because that's her favorite. But must of the dinner guests preferred her to make California rolls. Except for me of course. I preferred she made nothing and I could stay home.
What a hypocrite she was for not throwing out the California rolls as I demanded! She didn't even want to make California rolls! She wanted the spicy tuna rolls in the first place.
See how dumb your deflection was, now? With all due respect, of course.
What's worse is how she made you pay for what you don't want and would have the IRS fine you if didn't pay up!
Quote:What's worse is how she made you pay for what you don't want and would have the IRS fine you if didn't pay up!
She's an awful woman, that's for sure! Lol, but the cost of the sushi is not the point. :-)
Quote:She's an awful woman, that's for sure! Lol, but the cost of the sushi is not the point. :-)
But I was told that her menu selection was intended to reduce the cost of sushi for everyone. I thought a lower cost was the
ONLY point?
Quote:Remember that lady that made California roll sushi that I demanded she throw away?
Originally, she was gonna make spicy tuna roll sushi, because that's her favorite. But must of the dinner guests preferred her to make California rolls. Except for me of course. I preferred she made nothing and I could stay home.
What a hypocrite she was for not throwing out the California rolls as I demanded! She didn't even want to make California rolls! She wanted the spicy tuna rolls in the first place.
See how dumb your deflection was, now? With all due respect, of course.
Loll. She said come to my house. I have spicy rolls. The lady across the street is serving California rolls. California rolls are ill conceived and insensitive to poor working families.
Then when the country showed up she served California rolls. She said "after further consideration California rolls are better for u"
They looked so bad that even her husband said they were terrible and wouldn't taste good.
Then the health inspector came by and tried to warn everyone they were spoiled made with 19th century rice and tried to stop people from eating them.
Now that everyone is in the hospital with food poisoning she leads a campaign to decry the health inspector for draconian measures to try and save her guests that she herself poisoned.
Please, by all means think Ted Cruz is electable. I look forward to President Hillary Clinton.
Quote:But I was told that her menu selection was intended to reduce the aacost of sushi for everyone. I thought a lower cost was the ONLY point?
Lol, now you're deflecting.
This thread is about our Cuban Canadian friend and his self serving actions.
Whether or not you agree with Obama care is irrelevant to the discussion. Plus I'm so tired of debating the merits of Obama care. The fact is, Medicare for all its what I think is the right policy for health care.